Tail gate / boot close from key on A4 B9

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Hi,

Does anyone know if it's possible to close the tail gate / boot from the keys on a B9 A4? I had an A6 as a courtesy car and I'm pretty sure that you could close it from the keys on that...

Cheers,

Joe
 
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Does the UK trunk have a power motor? If not then no. In the US that is not an option. The reason the trunk pops open is due to the power release and then mechanically the springs and struts pulls it open. But it is mechanical, and not a power motor. You'd need a power trunk motor (typically replaces the struts) to get it to open and close. There are aftermarket kits that allows this as well, and connects to allow remote open and close. Similar to the power lift gates of minivans/SUV.
 
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On the A6 4G the codings are:

Close tailgate with button on Remote:
Code:
[6D - Trunk Elect.]
[Security Access - 16] - Code: 12345
[Adaptation - 10] 
ADP-(1)-Activation using rear lid opening button in remote key-Touch function for opening
ADP-(4)-Activation using rear lid opening button in remote key-Tap function for closing
change 'not active' to 'active'
Close tailgate with switch from inside car:
Code:
[6D - Trunk Elect.]
[Security Access - 16] - Code: 12345
[Adaptation - 10]
ADP-(1)-Activation using rear lid remote unlocking switch-Touch function for opening
ADP-(4)-Activation using rear lid remote unlocking switch-Tap function for closing
change 'not active' to 'active'
Do you have something similar in your [6D - Trunk Elect.] ??
 
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Does the UK trunk have a power motor? If not then no. In the US that is not an option. The reason the trunk pops open is due to the power release and then mechanically the springs and struts pulls it open. But it is mechanical, and not a power motor. You'd need a power trunk motor (typically replaces the struts) to get it to open and close. There are aftermarket kits that allows this as well, and connects to allow remote open and close. Similar to the power lift gates of minivans/SUV.
Yes, all the UK Avant's have powered tail lift, but up and down. You can open from the key, the drivers door inside or the boot. However, the only place it can be closed from is the inside of the boot. It's bit annoying, but not the end of the world.
 
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Don't know if it's the same as B8? but mine has power tailgate that would open from key or door switch as well as the tailgate but could only be closed by pressing the button inside the tailgate.

I modified mine so that it will open and close from the key or door switch but needed an add-on module, I posted a thread about it here; http://forums.ross-tech.com/showthread.php?8396-Remote-in-car-closing-of-tailgate&p=78270#post78270

I'm not sure. My B8 didn't have a powered tailgate, maybe yours does as it's an S4? I think I'm going to need an add-on module to get this to work and I don't really want to go down that road - just hoped I could code it.
 
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On the A6 4G the codings are:

Close tailgate with button on Remote:
Code:
[6D - Trunk Elect.]
[Security Access - 16] - Code: 12345
[Adaptation - 10] 
ADP-(1)-Activation using rear lid opening button in remote key-Touch function for opening
ADP-(4)-Activation using rear lid opening button in remote key-Tap function for closing
change 'not active' to 'active'
Close tailgate with switch from inside car:
Code:
[6D - Trunk Elect.]
[Security Access - 16] - Code: 12345
[Adaptation - 10]
ADP-(1)-Activation using rear lid remote unlocking switch-Touch function for opening
ADP-(4)-Activation using rear lid remote unlocking switch-Tap function for closing
change 'not active' to 'active'
Do you have something similar in your [6D - Trunk Elect.] ??
Thanks rlarsen. Unfortunately none of those adaptations are available on my B9 A4 :(
 
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Can you post a Auto-Scan, or maybe only the information for the 6D module?

For remote trunk closing you might need to upload some parameters to the car, which won't be possible with VCDS unfortunately.
 
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Can you post a Auto-Scan, or maybe only the information for the 6D module?

For remote trunk closing you might need to upload some parameters to the car, which won't be possible with VCDS unfortunately.
Sure, here's the module info:

Code:
Address 6D: Trunk Elect. (J605)       Labels: 5Q0-959-107.clb
   Part No SW: 4M0 959 107 A    HW: 4M0 959 107 A
   Component: HDSG-Modul    H13 0155  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 30705903900000
   Coding: 0550
   Shop #: WSC 06325 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DeckLidCONTIAU736 001012
   ROD: EV_DeckLidCONTIAU736_VW37.rod
   VCID: 313C1C8E51A0577FFC2-8064

No fault code found.
Not sure if they're of use, but here's the adaptation map:

Code:
;SW:4M0-959-107-A   HW:4M0-959-107-A ---  Trunk Elect.
;Component:HDSG-Modul    H13 0155, Coding:0550
;EV_DeckLidCONTIAU736,001012,EV_DeckLidCONTIAU736_VW37.rod
;Saturday,27,May,2017,20:02:25:37087
;VCDS Version: Beta 17.4.2  Data version: 20170505 DS270.4
;VCID: 313C1C8E51A0577FFC2-8064

IDE00001-IDE03415-Production mode-Tone sensor,not active ,3
IDE00001-IDE10408-Production mode-Opening height in production mode,not active ,3
IDE00001-MAS10733-Production mode-Activation due to excessive pressure on rear lid,not active ,3
IDE00001-MAS10734-Production mode-Activation of rear lid with reduced speed,not active ,3
IDE00001-MAS10735-Production mode-Calibration,not active ,3
IDE00001-MAS10736-Production mode-Checking the rear lid button,not active ,3
IDE00001-MAS10738-Production mode-Opening and closing rear lid,not active ,3
IDE00820-Activating and deactivating all development messages,not active ,1
IDE02158-Program opening stop,772 ,2
IDE02332-Deactivate production mode,0 ,3
IDE03435-Detection area upper,100 ,2
IDE03776-Offset for maximum programmable opening stop,90 ,2
IDE09510-IDE02111-Tailgate reverse path-Reverse path when opening,1 ,4
IDE09510-IDE02113-Tailgate reverse path-Reverse path when closing,100 ,4
IDE09511-Minimum opening height of tailgate,340 ,2
IDE09512-Deactivation of tailgate,active ,1
IDE09514-MAS01871-Deactivation of tailgate while in trailer operation-Rear lid lock button in luggage compartment,active ,2
IDE09514-MAS06265-Deactivation of tailgate while in trailer operation-Release button in rear lid handle,active ,2
IDE09514-MAS09010-Deactivation of tailgate while in trailer operation-Sensor for rear lid opening,active ,2
IDE09514-MAS09042-Deactivation of tailgate while in trailer operation-Using button to close lock. mechanism in tailgate handle,active ,2
IDE09514-MAS09043-Deactivation of tailgate while in trailer operation-Remote ctrl: opening with button for tailgate unlock. mechan.,not active ,2
IDE09514-MAS09044-Deactivation of tailgate while in trailer operation-Remote ctrl: closing with button for tailgate unlock. mechan.,not active ,2
IDE09514-MAS09045-Deactivation of tailgate while in trailer operation-Using sensor to open tailgate,not active ,2
IDE09514-MAS09046-Deactivation of tailgate while in trailer operation-Using sensor to close tailgate,not active ,2
IDE09514-MAS09063-Deactivation of tailgate while in trailer operation-Opening with button for remote unlocking of tailgate,not active ,2
IDE09514-MAS09064-Deactivation of tailgate while in trailer operation-Closing with remote unl.button of tailgate when using a trailer,not active ,2
IDE09514-MAS11625-Deactivation of tailgate while in trailer operation-Button for opening rear lid in luggage compartment,active ,2
IDE09514-MAS13754-Deactivation of tailgate while in trailer operation-Opening with button 2 for remote unlocking of rear lid,not active ,2
IDE09514-MAS13755-Deactivation of tailgate while in trailer operation-Closing with remote unlock.butt.2 of rear lid when using trail.,not active ,2
IDE09520-Offset for opening height after basic setting,0 ,2
IDE10408-Opening height in production mode,60 %,2
IDE10695-Dectivation of the luggage compartment cover,active ,1
IDE10703-Luggage compartment cover: tolerance of the block counter,20 ,2
IDE10704-Luggage compartment cover: maximum no. of block drives,7 ,2
IDE10705-Luggage compartment cover: number bloom drives,100 ,2
IDE10706-MAS01875-Luggage compartment cover: reverse path after obstacle recogn.-Open,2 ,4
IDE10706-MAS01876-Luggage compartment cover: reverse path after obstacle recogn.-Close,2 ,4
IDE10707-IDE03434-Luggage compartment cover: detection area-Detection area lower,40 ,4
IDE10707-IDE03435-Luggage compartment cover: detection area-Detection area upper,35 ,4
IDE10708-Luggage compartment cover: adjust. track tolerance,88 ,2
IDE10709-Luggage compartment cover: excess limitation in exclusion area,not active ,1
ENG00160-MAS01911-Ausstattungen aktivieren-Tone sensor,active ,2
ENG00160-MAS01947-Ausstattungen aktivieren-Clamping strip 1,not active ,2
ENG00160-MAS01948-Ausstattungen aktivieren-Clamping strip 2,not active ,2
ENG00160-MAS01949-Ausstattungen aktivieren-Clamping strip 3,not active ,2
ENG00160-MAS01950-Ausstattungen aktivieren-Clamping strip 4,not active ,2
ENG00160-MAS04266-Ausstattungen aktivieren-Temperature sensor 1,active ,2
ENG00160-MAS04267-Ausstattungen aktivieren-Temperature sensor 2,active ,2
ENG00160-MAS08212-Ausstattungen aktivieren-Engine 2,active ,2
ENG00160-MAS09001-Ausstattungen aktivieren-Closing Assist Motor,active ,2
ENG00160-MAS11624-Ausstattungen aktivieren-Motor 2: sensor system,not active ,2


Elapsed Time: 00:06
...and block map:

Code:
;SW:4M0-959-107-A   HW:4M0-959-107-A ---  Trunk Elect.
;Component:HDSG-Modul    H13 0155, Coding:0550
;EV_DeckLidCONTIAU736,001012,EV_DeckLidCONTIAU736_VW37.rod
;Saturday,27,May,2017,20:02:16:37087
;VCDS Version: Beta 17.4.2  Data version: 20170505 DS270.4
;VCID: 313C1C8E51A0577FFC2-8064

Group,Description,Actual
IDE00019,Voltage terminal 30,11.82, V
IDE00030,Status of actuator test,not active, 
IDE00075,Vehicle speed,0.00, km/h
IDE00322,Status of basic setting,was not yet started, 
IDE00323,Security Access: Number of invalid keys,0, 
IDE00542,Excessive temperature protection,not active, 
IDE02019-MAS08993,Position programmable opening stop-Upper end pos.: relative,89, %
IDE02019-MAS08994,Position programmable opening stop-Upper end pos.: absolute,772, 
IDE02049,Trailer detected,Not available, 
IDE02093-MAS09014,Status of rear lid lock-Safety catch,closed, 
IDE02093-MAS09015,Status of rear lid lock-Main catch,closed, 
IDE02093-MAS09016,Status of rear lid lock-Rear lid lock,closed, 
IDE02094-MAS09057,Status of closing assist-Limit switch for pull-shut assist.,operated, 
IDE02095-MAS01947,Status of pinch protection-Clamping strip 1,not activated, 
IDE02095-MAS01948,Status of pinch protection-Clamping strip 2,not activated, 
IDE02095-MAS01949,Status of pinch protection-Clamping strip 3,not activated, 
IDE02095-MAS01950,Status of pinch protection-Clamping strip 4,not activated, 
IDE03427-MAS08995,Upper end stop: maximum value-Max. upper end position,862, 
IDE03615-MAS02672,Version-Start-stop,1, 
IDE03906-MAS01947,Pinch protection voltage supply status-Clamping strip 1,OFF, 
IDE03906-MAS01948,Pinch protection voltage supply status-Clamping strip 2,OFF, 
IDE03906-MAS01949,Pinch protection voltage supply status-Clamping strip 3,OFF, 
IDE03906-MAS01950,Pinch protection voltage supply status-Clamping strip 4,OFF, 
IDE05229-MAS09002,Reason for cancellation of rear lid procedure-Last reason,END, 
IDE05229-MAS09003,Reason for cancellation of rear lid procedure-second last reasons,Cancellation by user, 
IDE05229-MAS09004,Reason for cancellation of rear lid procedure-third last reason,END, 
IDE05229-MAS09005,Reason for cancellation of rear lid procedure-fourth last reason,END, 
IDE05229-MAS09006,Reason for cancellation of rear lid procedure-fifth last reason,END, 
IDE09491-IDE03434,Lock-in area-Detection area lower,100, 
IDE09491-IDE03435,Lock-in area-Detection area upper,100, 
IDE09492-MAS06165,Temperatures-Processor,16.00, ∞C
IDE09492-MAS08858,Temperatures-Outside air temperature on CAN,18.00, ∞C
IDE09492-MAS08996,Temperatures-Internal temp. on CAN,27.00, ∞C
IDE09492-MAS08997,Temperatures-Output stage for tailgate motor,15.00, ∞C
IDE09492-MAS08998,Temperatures-Tailgate motor left,21.00, ∞C
IDE09492-MAS08999,Temperatures-Tailgate motor right,21.00, ∞C
IDE09492-MAS09001,Temperatures-Closing Assist Motor,Not available, 
IDE09492-MAS09051,Temperatures-Output stage for tailgate motor: calculated,15.00, ∞C
IDE09492-MAS09053,Temperatures-Output stage for pull-shut assist.: calc.,Not available, 
IDE09492-MAS11205,Temperatures-Luggage compartment cover motor,27.00, ∞C
IDE09492-MAS11206,Temperatures-Output stage for luggage comp. cover: calc.,15.00, ∞C
IDE09493,Status of basic tailgate setting,Basic setting not active, 
IDE09494-MAS09002,Cancellation reason of basic tailgate setting-Last reason,Cancel, 
IDE09494-MAS09003,Cancellation reason of basic tailgate setting-second last reasons,Cancel, 
IDE09494-MAS09004,Cancellation reason of basic tailgate setting-third last reason,Cancel, 
IDE09494-MAS09005,Cancellation reason of basic tailgate setting-fourth last reason,Cancel, 
IDE09494-MAS09006,Cancellation reason of basic tailgate setting-fifth last reason,Cancel, 
IDE09495,Status of tailgate initialization,initialized, 
IDE09496-MAS09002,Reason for loss of tailgate initialization-Last reason,Rear lid: reset standardization, 
IDE09496-MAS09003,Reason for loss of tailgate initialization-second last reasons,Reset, 
IDE09496-MAS09004,Reason for loss of tailgate initialization-third last reason,Reset, 
IDE09496-MAS09005,Reason for loss of tailgate initialization-fourth last reason,Reset, 
IDE09496-MAS09006,Reason for loss of tailgate initialization-fifth last reason,Reset, 
IDE09498-MAS01871,Status of control points-Rear lid lock button in luggage compartment,not activated, 
IDE09498-MAS01872,Status of control points-Rear lid remote release button,not activated, 
IDE09498-MAS06265,Status of control points-Release button in rear lid handle,not activated, 
IDE09498-MAS06446,Status of control points-Remote radio control: button for luggage compartment unlocking,not activated, 
IDE09498-MAS09010,Status of control points-Sensor for rear lid opening,not activated, 
IDE09498-MAS09072,Status of control points-Locking mechanism button in the rear lid,ERROR, 
IDE09498-MAS13753,Status of control points-Button 2 for rear lid remote release,ERROR, 
IDE09499-IDE01991,Motors for tailgate: activation-Motor 1 for tailgate: status,OFF, 
IDE09499-IDE02012,Motors for tailgate: activation-Motor 2 for tailgate: status,OFF, 
IDE09499-MAS09001,Motors for tailgate: activation-Closing Assist Motor,OFF, 
IDE09499-MAS11205,Motors for tailgate: activation-Luggage compartment cover motor,OFF, 
IDE09500-MAS09012,Motors for tailgate: RPM-Rear lid motor 1,0.00, Hz
IDE09500-MAS09013,Motors for tailgate: RPM-Rear lid motor 2,0.00, Hz
IDE09500-MAS11205,Motors for tailgate: RPM-Luggage compartment cover motor,0.00, Hz
IDE09501-MAS09001,Motors for tailgate: elec. current-Closing Assist Motor,0.00, A
IDE09501-MAS09012,Motors for tailgate: elec. current-Rear lid motor 1,0.00, A
IDE09501-MAS09013,Motors for tailgate: elec. current-Rear lid motor 2,0.00, A
IDE09501-MAS11205,Motors for tailgate: elec. current-Luggage compartment cover motor,0.00, A
IDE09502-IDE02097,Tailgate angle sensor: absolute value-Position Sensor 1,0, 
IDE09502-IDE02098,Tailgate angle sensor: absolute value-Position sensor 2,0, 
IDE09502-IDE10697,Tailgate angle sensor: absolute value-Luggage compartment cover: position,18, 
IDE09503-IDE02017,Tailgate angle sensor: relative value-Rear lid position: relative,0, %
IDE09503-MAS11205,Tailgate angle sensor: relative value-Luggage compartment cover motor,1, %
IDE09504,Status of clutch test,not active, 
IDE09505-IDE02078,Tailgate actuation counter-Activations of rear lid closing button,1037, 
IDE09505-IDE02079,Tailgate actuation counter-Activations of rear lid unlocking button,204, 
IDE09505-IDE02080,Tailgate actuation counter-Activations of rear lid remote unlocking switch,84, 
IDE09505-IDE02081,Tailgate actuation counter-Activation of remote key button rid lid opening,833, 
IDE09505-IDE02082,Tailgate actuation counter-Opening cycle counter,1010, 
IDE09505-IDE02083,Tailgate actuation counter-Closing cycle counter,1014, 
IDE09505-IDE02084,Tailgate actuation counter-Counter obstruction detected,2, 
IDE09505-IDE02085,Tailgate actuation counter-Counter of selectable opening stop adapted,0, 
IDE09505-IDE02087,Tailgate actuation counter-Counter for function limitation due to insufficient voltage,0, 
IDE09505-IDE02088,Tailgate actuation counter-Counter for function limitation due to excessive voltage,0, 
IDE09505-IDE02090,Tailgate actuation counter-Counter for function limitation due to excessive temperature,0, 
IDE09505-IDE02174,Tailgate actuation counter-Counter of flap opening angle basic settings,2, 
IDE09505-IDE03774,Tailgate actuation counter-Counter for closing operations canceled by lock-up,1, 
IDE09505-MAS08873,Tailgate actuation counter-Resets to hardware watchdog,0, 
IDE09505-MAS08874,Tailgate actuation counter-Resets due to software watchdog,0, 
IDE09505-MAS09017,Tailgate actuation counter-Counter tailgate lock: implausible,18, 
IDE09505-MAS09018,Tailgate actuation counter-Counter pull-shut asst. implausible,0, 
IDE09505-MAS09019,Tailgate actuation counter-Play protection counter active,0, 
IDE09505-MAS09058,Tailgate actuation counter-Counter Hall sensor in motor 1 for tailgate implausible,0, 
IDE09505-MAS09059,Tailgate actuation counter-Counter Hall sensor in motor 2 for tailgate implausible,0, 
IDE09505-MAS09060,Tailgate actuation counter-Wake-up events button for closing rear lid in lugg.compartment,571, 
IDE09505-MAS09061,Tailgate actuation counter-Wake-up events Hall sensor in motor for tailgate,59, 
IDE09505-MAS09062,Tailgate actuation counter-Wake-up events in data bus,19414, 
IDE09505-MAS09076,Tailgate actuation counter-Activating tailgate button for locking,0, 
IDE09505-MAS09077,Tailgate actuation counter-Activating sensor for tailgate opening,0, 
IDE09505-MAS09078,Tailgate actuation counter-Wake-up events button for unlocking tailgate,0, 
IDE09505-MAS09482,Tailgate actuation counter-Current limitation active,4, 
IDE09505-MAS10783,Tailgate actuation counter-Closing assist.counter: aborted by operating unit,0, 
IDE09505-MAS11977,Tailgate actuation counter-Emergency running counter after terminal 30 reset,5, 
IDE09505-MAS11978,Tailgate actuation counter-Play protection counter for closing aid active,0, 
IDE09505-MAS12517,Tailgate actuation counter-Reset via timeout monitoring watchdog,0, 
IDE09505-MAS12518,Tailgate actuation counter-Reset via network management monitoring watchdog,0, 
IDE09505-MAS13753,Tailgate actuation counter-Button 2 for rear lid remote release,0, 
IDE09506,Tailgate play protection,not active, 
IDE09519-MAS09054,Status of hall sensor in motor for tailgate-Motor 1 for tailgate: Hall sensor voltage supply,OFF, 
IDE09519-MAS09055,Status of hall sensor in motor for tailgate-Motor 2 for tailgate: Hall sensor voltage supply,OFF, 
IDE09519-MAS09066,Status of hall sensor in motor for tailgate-Motor 1: Sensor 1,00000000 , 
IDE09519-MAS09067,Status of hall sensor in motor for tailgate-Motor 1: Sensor 2,00000000 , 
IDE09519-MAS09068,Status of hall sensor in motor for tailgate-Motor 2: Sensor 1,00000000 , 
IDE09519-MAS09069,Status of hall sensor in motor for tailgate-Motor 2: Sensor 2,00000000 , 
IDE09519-MAS11207,Status of hall sensor in motor for tailgate-Motor for luggage comp. cover: sensor 1,00000001 , 
IDE09519-MAS11209,Status of hall sensor in motor for tailgate-Motor for luggage compartment cover: Hall sensor voltage supply,OFF, 
IDE10697-MAS01471,Luggage compartment cover: position-lower stop,0, 
IDE10697-MAS01472,Luggage compartment cover: position-upper stop,904, 
IDE10697-MAS02282,Luggage compartment cover: position-Position,18, 
IDE10698-IDE03774,Luggage compartment cover: counter-Counter for closing operations canceled by lock-up,0, 
IDE10698-MAS09020,Luggage compartment cover: counter-Down adjustment,1011, 
IDE10698-MAS09021,Luggage compartment cover: counter-Up adjustment,1013, 
IDE10698-MAS09023,Luggage compartment cover: counter-Total number of adjustments,2024, 
IDE10698-MAS09024,Luggage compartment cover: counter-Shutdowns by excess force limiter,4, 
IDE10698-MAS09025,Luggage compartment cover: counter-Blocking bottom mechan. stop,0, 
IDE10698-MAS09026,Luggage compartment cover: counter-Blocking upper mechan. stop,0, 
IDE10698-MAS09027,Luggage compartment cover: counter-Re-initializationn in bottom mechan. stop,24, 
IDE10698-MAS09028,Luggage compartment cover: counter-Re-initialization in upper mechan. stop,21, 
IDE10698-MAS09029,Luggage compartment cover: counter-Number of re-initializations,0, 
IDE10699-MAS00342,Status of luggage compartment cover initialization-Initializing,initialized, 
IDE10700-MAS09002,Reason for loss of luggage compartment cover initialization-Last reason,De-initialization executed, 
IDE10700-MAS09003,Reason for loss of luggage compartment cover initialization-second last reasons,Error in detecting position, 
IDE10700-MAS09004,Reason for loss of luggage compartment cover initialization-third last reason,Not yet initialized, 
IDE10700-MAS09005,Reason for loss of luggage compartment cover initialization-fourth last reason,Not yet initialized, 
IDE10700-MAS09006,Reason for loss of luggage compartment cover initialization-fifth last reason,Not yet initialized, 
IDE10804,Easing of rear lid,not active, 
IDE11033,Motor for luggage compart. cover: excess. temp: protection,not active, 
IDE11036,Pull-shut asst.: play protec.,not active, 
IDE11868,Indicator lamp for delayed closing,not installed, 
IDE80005-MAS09012,Analysis 5-Rear lid motor 1,0.00, A
IDE80005-MAS09013,Analysis 5-Rear lid motor 2,0.00, A
MAS00972,Decoration variant,3, 

Elapsed Time: 00:09
Cheers,

Joe
 
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I think I'm going to need an add-on module to get this to work and I don't really want to go down that road - just hoped I could code it.
I was hoping the same with mine but discovered it wasn't possible, but fitting the module was actually very straightforward.

Of course it maybe possible on a B9?, hopefully someone on here will know?
 
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I was hoping the same with mine but discovered it wasn't possible, but fitting the module was actually very straightforward.

Of course it maybe possible on a B9?, hopefully someone on here will know?
I hope so :)

As another data point: I had an Allroad A4 B9 as a courtesy car (during one of my A4's many visits to the dealership since I bought it last year :() and that had the "Advanced Key" extra and I'm 99% sure that allowed you to close from the key and drivers door.
 
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