Audi A4 2001 Quattro 2.8L

[shawn1978]

Well i have had me Audi for about 8 months and when i bough it from the guy i wasn't driving in (D) i had to drive it in sport mode are switch it over into (D) when i get up to like 5MPH and then it drives perfects and the transmission is perfectly sound never any codes and slippage..i though it was the TCM & ECU so i bought new ones well used ones matching model numbers and i used my Vac com to re-code both of them still nothing so i changed (VSS) Vehicle speed sensor and the speed sensor (SS) and dash cluster and new spark plugs and valve cover gasket needed it and also changed the ABS module because im still getting the 18057 Powertrain Data bus missing from the ABS controller and 18258 Powertrain Data bus missing messagefrom ECU and 18034 Powertrain Data Bus missing message from TCU ???? Any ideas anyone

Tuesday,05,August,2014,05:36:44:29655
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
VCDS Version: 14.7.2.0 (x64)
Data version: 20140714

Dealer/Shop Name: 

Mileage: 156129   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 8D - Audi A4/S4/RS4 B5 (1995 > 2001)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 25 35 37 45 55 56 57 67 75 76 77
 
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 078-907-551-ATQ.lbl
   Part No: 3B0 907 551 BQ
   Component: 2.8L V6/5V      G   0001  
   Coding: 07751
   Shop #: WSC 02135  
   VCID: 73EBD75041C6FFA28E-515A

1 Fault Found:
18057 - Powertrain Data Bus 
            P1649 - 35-00 - Missing Message from ABS Controller
Readiness: 0110 1101

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 01V-927-156.lbl
   Part No: 8D0 927 156 AT
   Component: AG5 01V 2.8l5V  USA 3132  
   Coding: 01102
   Shop #: WSC 05311  
   VCID: 7F030B607D8EABC2FA-515A

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 8E0-614-111-ASR.lbl
   Part No: 3B0 614 111 
   Component: ABS/ASR 5.3 FRONT   D00  
   Coding: 00031
   Shop #: WSC 05314  
   VCID: 53AB77D0A1869FA26E-515A

3 Faults Found:
00285 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Front Right (G45) 
            30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
18258 - Powertrain Data Bus 
            P1850 - 35-00 - Missing Message from ECU
18034 - Powertrain Data Bus 
            P1626 - 35-00 - Missing Message from TCU

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 8D0-820-043-1D.lbl
   Part No: 8D0 820 043 P
   Component: A4     KLIMAAUTOMAT D58  
   Coding: 00160
   Shop #: WSC 06435  
   VCID: 2D5F0128E762E95218-25AA

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 8D0-959-655-AI8.lbl
   Part No: 8D0 959 655 G
   Component: Airbag Front+Kopf  1002  
   Coding: 00304
   Shop #: WSC 63351  
   VCID: 3A753A74262C4EEA8D-5196

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 8D0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No: 8D0 920 980 CX
   Component: B5-KOMBIINSTR. VDO D13   
   Coding: 02262
   Shop #: WSC 00001  
   VCID: 030B87901166CF229E-515A

No fault code found.

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Address 35: Centr. Locks        Labels: 8D0-862-257.lbl
   Part No: 8L0 862 257 N
   Component: CV-Pump             D10  
   Coding: 00008
   Shop #: WSC 40201  
   VCID: 4081489C40F0143AC3-4F1E

2 Faults Found:
01367 - Central Locking Pump Run Time Exceeded (Likely Leak) 
            35-00 - -
01368 - Alarm triggered by Luggage Compartment Switch 
            35-00 - -

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Address 45: Inter. Monitor        Labels: 4B0-951-173.lbl
   Part No: 4B0 951 173 
   Component: Innenraumueberw.    D03  
   Coding: 00101
   Shop #: WSC 63351  
   VCID: 60C1A81CE030743AE3-4B7C

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 4B0-907-357-AUT.lbl
   Part No: 4B0 907 357 
   Component: LEUCHTWEITEREGLER  D004  
   Coding: 00004
   Shop #: WSC 63351  
   VCID: 65CFB908FF12111210-51D0

2 Faults Found:
01539 - Headlights Not Adjusted 
            35-00 - -
00776 - Level Control System Sensor; Left Front (G78) 
            31-00 - Open or Short to Ground

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 8D0-035-1xx-56.lbl
   Part No: 8D0 035 195 A
   Component:  Radio              D00  
   Coding: 00110
   Shop #: WSC 63351  
   VCID: 2449E40CB4A8281AC7-4B32

1 Fault Found:
65535 - Internal Control Module Memory Error 
            00-00 - -

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 03:30)--------------------------

 

[jakematic]

Please post a complete Auto-Scan wrapped with [code] [/code] tags so we can take a look.

 

[Dana]

I missed this because it was in the General VW/Audi Repair sub-forum but we determined via email that the incorrect ABS module is installed and that is directly responsible for the Powertrain Data Bus conflicts and false WSS fault.

 

[shawn1978]

Thanks for the reply, I did get all 4 new ABS speed sensors and VSS and cam - position sensors and Speed sensors and checked all wiring and grounds and connections all tested fine, And also new ABS module still nothing, and transmission went threw lots of test and tested perfect?????

 

[jyoung8607]

There's a mechanical failure in the transmission that will manifest just like that. There's a one-way sprag clutch that normally carries power in 1st gear, but allows over-run so you don't have heavy engine braking with your foot off the throttle. It is locked/overridden when in Tiptronic shifting mode, or D2 on the Passat and I'm guessing Sport mode on your A4. When in one of those modes, you have a great deal more engine braking in 1st gear and that's why - no overrun allowed. If the sprag clutch fails and free-wheels in either direction, you'll get nowhere in normal Drive but the Tiptronic mode clutch override will mask the problem.

You can see the difference in VCDS, address 02 MVBs: in 1st gear, normal Drive will show gear "1" commanded whereas Tiptronic/D2/Sport will show "1M".

If you rev it high enough in Drive, there's a good possibility the TCM will notice the problem and throw you into 4th gear limp mode. You'll see the gearshift display in the cluster go blank/inverse, and you'll have an error code in the TCM. Also, you'll have quite a lurch so be careful and don't do it very often.

Jason

 

[shawn1978]

I have been driving it in sporta mode and in D for about 9 months but I drive it in D only after it gets up to about five mph then I switch it into D and I can drive it all day..But what throws me is I have had the transmission out and over checked like 3 times and once by Audi and everything internal is sound??

 

[Jack@European_Parts]

Move the noids to see if the condition moves..............and check them to see if they actually pull, not just click.

 

[shawn1978]

How much you think for that cluch..I have and extra transmission same year and model..but ABS light is still on even after I replaced abs wheel speed sensor and the abs module and check all the wiring I'm left clueless any ideas? ?..

 

[Uwe]

ABS light is still on even after I replaced abs wheel speed sensor and the abs module and check all the wiring I'm left clueless any ideas? ?..

Did you install the correct ABS control module now? Please post up a fresh scan showing the current condition of the car.

-Uwe-

 

[shawn1978]

The ABS module came straight from the dealer and I matched up the parts number with the Vin number..could it be the dash cluster? Cause the ABS light & the check engine light is on..

 

[shawn1978]

Also I had the ECM & TCM Disconncted for about 7 hours then I put a used ECM in used TCM in also and I only did this because when I got the car it was in limp mode and even with those used one's it did the same thing so I'm wondering if I need to get it reprogrammed?? And will that solve the problem. .

 

[jyoung8607]

The ABS module came straight from the dealer and I matched up the parts number with the Vin number..could it be the dash cluster? Cause the ABS light & the check engine light is on..

I know a great way to find out.

Jason

 

[shawn1978]

How and what is the easiest way..

 

[Jack@European_Parts]

Watch the video link Jason made you above for how to perform an auto-scan...........

 

[jakematic]

And this post for how to add it to this thread.

 

[shawn1978]

VCDS Version: Beta 14.8.0 (x64)
Data version: 20140822
Friday,05,September,2014,20:48:51:29655

Chassis Type: 8D - Audi A4/S4/RS4 B5 (1995 > 2001)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 25 35 37 45 55 56 57 67 75 76 77
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine        Labels: 078-907-551-ATQ.lbl
   Part No: 3B0 907 551 BQ
   Component: 2.8L V6/5V      G   0001  
   Coding: 07751
   Shop #: WSC 06435  
   VCID: 73EBD75041C6FFA2DE-515A

5 Faults Found:
18057 - Powertrain Data Bus 
            P1649 - 35-00 - Missing Message from ABS Controller
17987 - Throttle Actuator (J338) 
            P1579 - 35-10 - Adaptation Not Started - Intermittent
18010 - Power Supply Terminal 30 
            P1602 - 35-10 - Voltage too Low - Intermittent
16839 - EVAP System 
            P0455 - 35-00 - Large Leak Detected
16825 - EVAP Emission Control Sys 
            P0441 - 35-00 - Incorrect Flow
Readiness: 0000 0100

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 01V-927-156.lbl
   Part No: 8D0 927 156 AT
   Component: AG5 01V 2.8l5V  USA 3132  
   Coding: 01102
   Shop #: WSC 05311  
   VCID: 7F030B607D8EABC2AA-515A

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 8E0-614-111-ASR.lbl
   Part No: 3B0 614 111 
   Component: ABS/ASR 5.3 FRONT   D00  
   Coding: 00031
   Shop #: WSC 05314  
   VCID: 53AB77D0A1869FA23E-515A

3 Faults Found:
00285 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Front Right (G45) 
            30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
18258 - Powertrain Data Bus 
            P1850 - 35-00 - Missing Message from ECU
18034 - Powertrain Data Bus 
            P1626 - 35-00 - Missing Message from TCU

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 8D0-820-043-1D.lbl
   Part No: 8D0 820 043 P
   Component: A4     KLIMAAUTOMAT D58  
   Coding: 00160
   Shop #: WSC 06435  
   VCID: 2D5F0128E762E95248-25AA

1 Fault Found:
00787 - Temperature Sensor in Fresh Air intake duct (G89) 
            30-00 - Open or Short to Plus

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 8D0-959-655-AI8.lbl
   Part No: 8D0 959 655 G
   Component: Airbag Front+Kopf  1002  
   Coding: 00304
   Shop #: WSC 63351  
   VCID: 3A753A74262C4EEADD-51B2

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 8D0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No: 8D0 920 980 CX
   Component: B5-KOMBIINSTR. VDO D13   
   Coding: 02262
   Shop #: WSC 00001  
   VCID: 030B87901166CF22CE-5178

No fault code found.

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Address 35: Centr. Locks        Labels: 8D0-862-257.lbl
   Part No: 8L0 862 257 N
   Component: CV-Pump             D10  
   Coding: 16140
   Shop #: WSC 40201  
   VCID: 4081489C40F0143A93-4F02

No fault code found.

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Address 45: Inter. Monitor        Labels: 4B0-951-173.lbl
   Part No: 4B0 951 173 
   Component: Innenraumueberw.    D03  
   Coding: 00101
   Shop #: WSC 63351  
   VCID: 60C1A81CE030743AB3-4B7C

1 Fault Found:
01382 - Alarm triggered by Anti-Theft Sensor; Front Left 
            35-00 - -

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Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 4B0-907-357-AUT.lbl
   Part No: 4B0 907 357 
   Component: LEUCHTWEITEREGLER  D004  
   Coding: 00004
   Shop #: WSC 63351  
   VCID: 65CFB908FF12111240-51D0

1 Fault Found:
01539 - Headlights Not Adjusted 
            35-00 - -

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 8D0-035-1xx-56.lbl
   Part No: 8D0 035 195 A
   Component:  Radio              D00  
   Coding: 00110
   Shop #: WSC 63351  
   VCID: 2449E40CB4A8281A97-4B32

1 Fault Found:
65535 - Internal Control Module Memory Error 
            00-00 - -

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 03:30)--------------------------

 

[jakematic]

5 Faults Found:
18057 - Powertrain Data Bus
P1649 - 35-00 - Missing Message from ABS Controller
17987 - Throttle Actuator (J338)
P1579 - 35-10 - Adaptation Not Started - Intermittent
18010 - Power Supply Terminal 30
P1602 - 35-10 - Voltage too Low - Intermittent
16839 - EVAP System
P0455 - 35-00 - Large Leak Detected
16825 - EVAP Emission Control Sys
P0441 - 35-00 - Incorrect Flow
Readiness: 0000 0100

3 Faults Found:
00285 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Front Right (G45)
30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
18258 - Powertrain Data Bus
P1850 - 35-00 - Missing Message from ECU
18034 - Powertrain Data Bus
P1626 - 35-00 - Missing Message from TCU

Have you cleared DTCs recently ?

I'd fix that 00285, check all the wiring, and find out what's causing the evap leak.

See the wiki for more info, and the factory repair manuals.

 

[Uwe]

Color me confused, but is this not the exact same ABS module as in your original scan from a month ago, the module that was determined to be incorrect for the car?

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 8E0-614-111-ASR.lbl
   Part No: 3B0 614 111 
   Component: ABS/ASR 5.3 FRONT   D00  
   Coding: 00031
   Shop #: WSC 05314  
   VCID: 53AB77D0A1869FA23E-515A

3 Faults Found:
00285 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Front Right (G45) 
            30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
18258 - Powertrain Data Bus 
            P1850 - 35-00 - Missing Message from ECU
18034 - Powertrain Data Bus 
            P1626 - 35-00 - Missing Message from TCU

 

[shawn1978]

No its not the wrong module.. I looked it up threw my Vin.and its the same member as what Diana from Ross Tech gave..so I called Audi and ordered the ABS module and they to looked it up by my Vin and it was the same number.cause the one I took off was very different

 

[shawn1978]

i have spend the week going threw the wiring harness and the ABS speed sensor and all the wiring is good and no shorts are bad grounds still nothing..So i took the ABS speed sensor off and put in on my buddies A4 and it worked,Im just wondering if i need to have it reprogrammed are flashed because the ECU is used and so is the TCM so im just left playing a guessing game..