2015 Audi S3 DSG Transmission Problem P2711 - Any Input Appreciated!

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Hello Everyone,
I own a 2015 Audi S3 with 56,000 miles. A week ago I experienced a problem with my transmission. I connected my VCDS and it gave some trouble codes. Here's a little history of my car: meticulously maintained (Audi Care serviced for 5000, 15000, 25000, 35000 and 45000 miles) with oil changes in between done by myself (Liqui Moly). Besides a cold air intake the car is NOT modified at all - completely stock. I had the car towed to my original dealership and they did NOTHING to the car for three days. I spoke with the service writer and he told me "they're trying to diagnose the problem". I asked him several questions, including a list of any DTC's they may have pulled and he had nothing. Had the car towed to my new home in Florida and spoke with the Service Director of the dealership nearest me. He told me to have the vehicle towed to him (at my own expense) and for a $365 diagnostic fee, he'd see what was wrong with the car but made no promises. I contacted Audi of America to see if they'd attempt a "goodwill repair' once we found out what was wrong, but they were not very helpful nor did they seem too "motivated" to assist me. I drove the car around the block but it is stuck in first gear (limp mode i guess) and will not let me shift manually. The transmission doesn't grind or clunk, and i am able to engage reverse for a brief period of time before the car goes into limp mode again.

I am just requesting a little guidance so to speak on how to troubleshoot some of the sensors, check the clutch packs, check the mecatronic, etc. I used the VCDS but it appears my transmission (OD9, DQ250) won't allow me to choose measuring blocks. I'm trying to narrow down the problem myself and "pinpoint" what's wrong. I'm hoping it's a sensor or maybe one of the valves // solenoids on the mecatronic unit. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated!! Thanks in advance !!


Code:
       Address 02: Auto Trans       Labels: 0D9-927-770.clb
Control Module Part Number: 0D9 300 012 L    HW: 02E 927 770 AQ
  Component and/or Version: DQ250-6A MQB  H53 4521
           Software Coding: 0014
            Work Shop Code: WSC 04742 780 00200
              ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDQ250021 001001 (AU37)
                       ROD: EV_TCMDQ250021.rod
                      VCID: 1F18EABC573249FF343-804A
5 Faults Found:

21148 - Gear 2 
          P0732 00 [072] - Incorrect Ratio
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 91016 km
                    Date: 2017.04.26
                    Time: 17:36:50

21150 - Gear 4 
          P0734 00 [072] - Incorrect Ratio
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 91003 km
                    Date: 2017.04.20
                    Time: 15:40:27

21152 - Gear 6 
          P0729 00 [072] - Incorrect Gear Ratio
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 91003 km
                    Date: 2017.04.20
                    Time: 15:41:07

21181 - Unexpected / Implausible Mechanical Gear Disengagement 
          P2711 00 [200] - -
          MIL ON - Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 5
                    Mileage: 90998 km
                    Date: 2017.04.20
                    Time: 15:06:47

21188 - Unexpected / Implausible Mechanical Gear Disengagement 
          P2711 00 [072] - -
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Mileage: 91003 km
                    Date: 2017.04.20
                    Time: 15:41:05
 
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Your TCU uses the UDS protocol; use Advanced Measuring Values instead of Measuring Blocks.

Since you say the car has been meticulously maintained, I'm going to assume that the oil in the DSG has been changed at least once?

The thing that usually fails on the DSG is the Mechatronic....

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Thanks for the prompt reply. Yes the DSG Fluid was changed by the dealership at 35,000 miles. I am not sure if they did the adaptation. There is a popular website that shows a DSG DIY and they simply drained the fluid, measured what came out, then filled the same amount back into the system. Someone in the comments area of that video questioned why they didnt use a VCDS and the author stated "this is how we did it when i worked at the dealership".

I looked at the advanced function but wasn't sure what to input. I wanted to compare input and output shaft speeds, check the clutch temp sensors, etc. I logged onto the audi repair website but i cant get odis access to run diagnostics.
 
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In the selection dialog that pops up when you open Advanced Measuring Values, there's a search/filter box. Type "temp" (without the quotes) and you should easily find "Transmission fluid temperature" and a number of others. Similarly, if you type "speed", you should find a number of values with descriptions. Then just put a check mark in the box next to the ones you actually want to see.

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I really appreciate all of your help ! I did exactly as you said and was able to play around and test some of the sensors. At this point i think it's either the clutch packs (incorrect ratio for gears 2,3,6) or the mechatronic unit itself. I was also able to go onto the Audi Erwin website and download the repair manuals. I've been reading and i don't think there is a direct way to test the solenoids or valves without removing the mechatronic unit.

I'll keep you posted but it appears that i'll have to take it to an indie shop. Having just moved, i have limited access to my tools and time is limited due to my work schedule.

Thanks again for an awesome product and your help!
 
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I think that can be good faith warrantied no?

I would call Audi customer care to see.............
 
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I really, REALLY appreciate everyone's input so far. You guys have been great! I have ZERO confidence in any of these dealerships. This is the reason i purchased a VCDS in the first place, so i could do my OWN repairs. It's killing me because i'm renting a car now and i'm waiting for my tools to arrive here. The ONLY reason i took out Audi Care (pre-paid maintenance) was to avoid any issues with repairs during the warranty period. Lucky me, the car is 6,000 miles PAST warranty. I originally took the vehicle to Audi of Someplace in Suffolk County, Long Island. My car was towed there, arriving Thursday evening. The service manager took my keys, and told me he'd call me sometime, not even offering a ride or a cab back home. So the car sat there all day Friday and all day Saturday. Once i spoke with the service guy on Monday he told me they couldn't find any fault codes and they'd have to "look into it more". Right there i knew he was lying to me (that and the fact the car was in the SAME spot collecting dust) , so i had my car towed to my new home in Florida.

The indie shop where the car is now told me they believe the fluid might be dirty. This confirms my original statement in which i SUSPECT the dealership did not perform the proper adaptation procedure during the DSG fluid change. Which is WHY i am so apprehensive about bringing my car to the dealer in the FIRST place. I'm pretty confident that any "deal" the dealership would make with me, would be to run up a massive repair bill, then offer to "split" the difference with me in "good faith". I read a thread within the Ross Tech forums about someone that attempted a goodwill repair, got the run around from the dealership and Audi of America, then ended paying out of pocket anyway. I don't trust ANY of these dealerships for service. Period. Audi of America was totally useless as well, offering ZERO help or sympathy.

So that's where i stand. The mechanic of the indie shop wants to drain and refill the DSG fluid and change the filter. Then take it from there. I've read also it might be an issue with the mechanical clutches, but we'll see what happens next.

I'll keep you all posted. Thanks again !
 
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I am under the impression that the vag group had extended the warranty on dsg for 10 years in the US and China.
 
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Seems to only apply to 2007-2009?

-Uwe-
That is correct Uwe, however, I have it under advisement & personal experience observing these failures, it needs to be reported so that a real campaign will be forced to be initiated.

OP get me a VIN # and a complete auto-scan please.......thank you!
 
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You know what Uwe

I think you should make a sticky for important reports to the NHTSA and how people are to look up recalls TPI or TSB's etc. at the site.

People should consider that by submitting reports, it will help the community & get them possible help.

https://www.nhtsa.gov/recalls

VAG in the USA has been less than forthcoming with TSB's to the public & I see gross inconsistencies for how they are disseminating the repair or technical information.

Not everything is proprietary!
 
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Hello Everyone,
Sorry for the late posts i'm just busy with work. My VIN is WAUBFGFF3F1083628. I did not save my Auto Scan because i'm a moron. I am going back to the indie shop with my VCDS cable to handle that, and i will post afterwards. Had i known that these DSG transmissions were such a problem i would have went with my heart and purchased an E46 M3, stick. Living in New York i needed AWD for the snow and the wife doesn't drive a manual. I live in Florida now so it's a double kick in my butt.

Jack and UWE thanks for your assistance, as well as everyone else that posted. I just finished writing up a complaint to the NHSTA under complaint # 10983595. My next step is to write DIRECTLY to the CEO of Audi of America, Scott KEOGH. I will be very professional and detailed in my complaint, naming names and the dealerships i went to. I will also emphasize that i did not receive TRULY EXCEPTIONAL service from anyone i spoke with during this whole ordeal. It's funny how after all of my Audi Care appointments i get a survey stating 7 is Excellent but we want to be TRULY EXCEPTIONAL, so please rate us a 10. Except when your car breaks down out of warranty then we could care less.

I'll let you know how things go and i'll try to get the auto scan up either tomorrow or by this weekend. Thanks !
 
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Mormon huh that explains it after all those Davey and Goliath .......Cloaky Productions.
Thank you for taking the time to register the complaint and contacting the CEO was a great idea.

0D9-300-012L ( f05/14-05/15 008 ) QSP+PR-7GB on sale for $9230 USD minus labor WTF!

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audi s3 sal. qu. 2.0
A3
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24.11.2014
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2015
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CYFB
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QSP
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6A
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Jack you're too kind but it WAS pretty dumb of me to run an auto scan without saving it. That was a major VCDS, JPPSG violation ! Just under $10,000 for a new tranny, without labor.... !!? That's crazy. I don't THINK there's a major problem that would need a replacement, but who knows. The little i drove the car (forward in 1st and reverse) i did not feel any grinding, clicking or anything that would suggest a major failure. I suspect it may be an issue with one of the clutch sets (2,4,6, R) or drive shafts. Reading the repair manual makes me think it's fairly easy to reach and retrieve the mechatronic unit and run some troubleshooting diagnostics on it. Perhaps one of the solenoids // valves is malfunctioning and preventing proper gear engagement? I'll post what i DID save here:

Code:
 Saturday,29,April,2017,10:35:40:63824
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 17.1.3.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4336.4
Data version: 20170320 DS267.7
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WAUBFGFF3F1083628   License Plate: GVV6708
Mileage: 56553   Repair Order: 



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                Address 02: Auto Trans       Labels: 0D9-927-770.clb
Control Module Part Number: 0D9 300 012 L    HW: 02E 927 770 AQ
  Component and/or Version: DQ250-6A MQB  H53 4521
           Software Coding: 0014
            Work Shop Code: WSC 04742 780 00200
              ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDQ250021 001001 (AU37)
                       ROD: EV_TCMDQ250021.rod
                      VCID: 1F18EABC573249FF343-804A
5 Faults Found:

21148 - Gear 2 
          P0732 00 [072] - Incorrect Ratio
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 91016 km
                    Date: 2017.04.26
                    Time: 17:36:50

21150 - Gear 4 
          P0734 00 [072] - Incorrect Ratio
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 91003 km
                    Date: 2017.04.20
                    Time: 15:40:27

21152 - Gear 6 
          P0729 00 [072] - Incorrect Gear Ratio
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 91003 km
                    Date: 2017.04.20
                    Time: 15:41:07

21181 - Unexpected / Implausible Mechanical Gear Disengagement 
          P2711 00 [200] - -
          MIL ON - Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 5
                    Mileage: 90998 km
                    Date: 2017.04.20
                    Time: 15:06:47

21188 - Unexpected / Implausible Mechanical Gear Disengagement 
          P2711 00 [072] - -
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Mileage: 91003 km
                    Date: 2017.04.20
                    Time: 15:41:05
 
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FYI: VCDS saves Auto-Scans surreptitiously whether you ask it to or not. Look in your Scans sub-folder. ;)

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Hi op I Once limped a car home that would not shift past 2nd. In Tiptronic mode after you have not experienced the fault yet on the cycle, in Tiptronic mode in first Revit to 3000 let off the gas pedal and quickly shift into second and see what it does. I would first clear the codes and then after you go through all the gears check the codes again. This is not a fix or anything just to make sure and see if you can get any grinding noises or anything out of the other gears or if the clutch pack is holding or not and do it is only through the Tiptronic
 
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Hello,
Just left the indie shop and performed an Auto Scan. Apparently he cleared the DTS's and the car showed "No Fault Code" for all modules. I took this opportunity to play around with the advanced measuring blocks and took the car for a little spin. IVAGP, i reversed the car out from the shop and immediately shifted into manual mode. I drove the car around the lot and manually shifted from 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th ... then the car shifted into first and went into "limp mode". All gear shifts were smooth, no grinding, clicking or clunking. As soon as the CEL went on i pulled back into the bay and ran another Auto Scan. While looking at the advanced measuring blocks there were some words in German towards the end that i couldn't understand. I am trying to decipher all of the values from the different logs that i got. The input and output speed sensors appear to be working as they gave readings while i was driving around. What DID catch my attention was "Current of valve for clutch 2 specified value" gave a consistent zero reading. Also, "Current Valve Clutch 2 Actual Value" gave a value rang of .9 to 1.3. Can i assume that this is one of the valves that control the clutch within the DSG // Mechatronic unit? I saw a book on this website's store authored by the ATG entitlted "Volkswagen & Audi Diagnostics". Would this book help in interpreting the measuring block values? I'm trying to isolate the issue before we go in and start taking things apart.

Thanks for all the help so far ! Here is my latest Auto Scan (i hope i use "code" properly this time, apologies if i don't)

Code:
Friday,05,May,2017,17:19:09:63824
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 17.1.3.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4336.4
Data version: 20170320 DS267.7
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WAUBFGFF3F1083628   License Plate: 
Mileage: 91018km-56555mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: FF (5Q0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 15 16 17 19 22 2B 42 44 47 52 55 5F A9 BB
          BC

VIN: WAUBFGFF3F1083628   Mileage: 91018km-56555miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
2B-Steer. Col. Lock -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
A9-Struct. Borne Sound -- Status: OK 0000
BB-Door Rear Drv -- Status: OK 0000
BC-Door Rear Pass -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CYFB)       Labels: 06K-907-425-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 8V0 906 259 E    HW: 06K 907 425 E
   Component: 2.0l R4 TFSI  H13 0001  
   Revision: --H13---    
   Coding: 0A1D00122426000E3004
   Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TFS0208V0906259E 001002
   ROD: EV_ECM20TFS0208V0906259E.rod
   VCID: 42DE43C8840044177BD-8016

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0010 0101

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Address 02: Auto Trans (J743)       Labels: 0D9-927-770.clb
   Part No SW: 0D9 300 012 L    HW: 02E 927 770 AQ
   Component: DQ250-6A MQB  H53 4521  
   Revision: 03253104    Serial number: TFK01410271096
   Coding: 0014
   Shop #: WSC 04742 780 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDQ250021 001001
   ROD: EV_TCMDQ250021.rod
   VCID: 1F18EABC573249FF343-804A

14 Faults Found:
21148 - Gear 2 
          P0732 00 [010] - Incorrect Ratio
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 91017 km
                    Date: 2017.05.05
                    Time: 16:51:42

21150 - Gear 4 
          P0734 00 [066] - Incorrect Ratio
          Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

21153 - Gear 1 
          P072C 00 [002] - Not Selectable
          Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

21154 - Gear 2 
          P072D 00 [002] - Not Selectable
          Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

21155 - Gear 3 
          P072E 00 [002] - Not Selectable
          Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

21156 - Gear 4 
          P072F 00 [002] - Not Selectable
          Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

21157 - Gear 5 
          P073A 00 [002] - Not Selectable
          Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

21159 - Gear R 
          P072B 00 [002] - Not Selectable
          Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

10731 - Valve 3 in Transmission Part 1 
          P174A 00 [002] - Electrical malfunction
          Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

10732 - Valve 3 in Transmission Part 2 
          P174E 00 [002] - Electrical malfunction
          Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

10909 - Cooling Oil Valve 
          P179D 00 [002] - Electrical Malfunction
          Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

21207 - Pressure Control Solenoid 3 
          P0797 00 [002] - Short to Plus
          Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

10906 - Cooling Oil Valve 
          P179D 00 [002] - Electrical Malfunction
          Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

21181 - Unexpected / Implausible Mechanical Gear Disengagement 
          P2711 00 [011] - -
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Mileage: 91018 km
                    Date: 2017.05.05
                    Time: 17:06:34


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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 5Q0-907-379-IPB-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 3Q0 907 379 Q    HW: 3Q0 907 379 F
   Component: ESC           H42 0610  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 62944000003909
   Coding: 31FF6B9254280A6F017D030241CB698CD62A5080C08296B6024100588208
   Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB 034036
   ROD: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB_034_VW48.rod
   VCID: 48CA51E0A23C6E47A59-801C

No fault code found.

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J518)       Labels: 5Q0-959-435.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 435 A    HW: 5Q0 959 435 
   Component: VWKESSYMQB    021 0604  
   Revision: 00021000    Serial number: 0352076171
   Coding: 030C0C
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_KessyHellaMQBAB 002011
   ROD: EV_KessyHellaMQBAB_002.rod
   VCID: 3A2E3B28ECD00CD723D-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (E87)       Labels: 8V0-820-043.clb
   Part No SW: 8V0 820 043 D    HW: 8V0 820 043 D
   Component: AC Automat    H13 0060  
   Revision: 20027000    Serial number: 00000000487739
   Coding: 03000014010000000000000000001400
   Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirCondiFrontVaAU37X 008020
   ROD: EV_AirCondiFrontVaAU37X.rod
   VCID: 3330160CCBBAFD9FE0B-8066

   Relative humidity sensor in fresh air intake duct: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4H0 907 658     HW: 4H0 907 658 
   Component: AQ_Hum_Sensor  H03 0003 
   Serial number: EFF80A57000000000001

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 5Q0-937-08X-HV1.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 937 085 AC    HW: 5Q0 937 085 AC
   Component: BCM MQBAB HNA H18 0137  
   Serial number: 01011430701262
   Coding: 04151A46C04122F541C04004511807A00800000000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
   ASAM Dataset: EV_BCMCONTI 013000
   ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_013.rod
   VCID: 7AAEFB28AC50CCD763D-802E

   Control Unit For Wiper Motor: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8V1 955 119 C    HW: 8V1 955 119 A  Labels: 5QX-955-119-V1.CLB
   Component: WWS371 141009  042 0585 
   Serial number:         141108082028
   Coding: 0A47F7

   Rain Light Recognition Sensor: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8U0 955 559 B    HW: 8U0 955 559 B  Labels: 8U0-955-559.CLB
   Component: G397_RLFS  H06 0002 
   Serial number: 23391689            
   Coding: 00006C

   Light switch: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8V0 941 531 AD    HW: 8V0 941 531 AD
   Component: E1 - LDS MQB  H05 0032 
   Serial number: 10 09 2014  00001191

   Alarm horn: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5Q0 951 605     HW: 5Q0 951 605 
   Component: Sirene, DWA  004 0311 
   Serial number: 00000000000060929188

   Sun Roof: 
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 8V3 959 591 A    HW: 8V3 959 591 A
   Component: J245 PS73.404  H02 0003 
   Serial number: 0000FST0000ZE5I00000
   Coding: 101F00

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 5Q0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 655 J    HW: 5Q0 959 655 J
   Component: AirbagVW20    009 0825  
   Serial number: 003GCR00YML6
   Coding: 9DCCFCC0000000005000001AC24800000065
   Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X 002138
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X_VW37.rod
   VCID: 47C852DCAF22613FAC3-8012

   Belt Pretensioner left: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G0 980 945 B    HW: 5G0 980 945 B
   Component: BeltPretRevFL  H36 0350 
   Serial number: 34178311B13111470353
   Coding: 333135

   Belt Pretensioner right: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5G0 980 946 B    HW: 5G0 980 946 B
   Component: BeltPretRevFR  H36 0350 
   Serial number: 34178312B11111470450
   Coding: 333135

   Occupant Detection: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5C6 959 339 B    HW: 5C6 959 339 B
   Component: BF-Gewichtss.  H10 0046 
   Serial number: 6940000Y1400018DCA0G
   Coding: 303230

   Side Sensor Driver Front: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 000 611 14
   Component: SideSensor_Df  001 0887 
   Serial number: 357000000008AC10811D
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Passenger Front: 
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 000 611 14
   Component: SideSensor_Pf  001 0887 
   Serial number: 358000000008EB10811H
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Driver Rear: 
   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 403 010 14
   Component: SideSensor_Dr  001 6149 
   Serial number: 3510002A11860BC2A0B/
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Passenger Rear: 
   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 403 010 14
   Component: SideSensor_Pr  001 6149 
   Serial number: 35200029F1860BC1F0AE
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Front Sensor Driver: 
   Subsystem 8 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 400 910 14
   Component: FrontSensor_D  001 6149 
   Serial number: 3550002A9175A921D062
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Front Sensor Passenger: 
   Subsystem 9 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 400 910 14
   Component: FrontSensor_P  001 6149 
   Serial number: 3560002A9175A92490EA
   Coding: 2D2D2D

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 5Q0-953-549.clb
   Part No SW: 8V0 953 521 CP    HW: 5Q0 953 549 C
   Component: Lenks. Modul  002 0110  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 11111408490509
   Coding: A018
   Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSKLOMQB 017001
   ROD: EV_SMLSKLOMQB_AU37.rod
   VCID: 0A4EABE8FCB0DC5773D-805E

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb
   Part No SW: 8V0 920 970 S    HW: 8V0 920 970 S
   Component: KOMBI         H02 4291  
   Coding: 0BED181B2B80D7050201A8001800000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 009040
   ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_009_AU37.rod
   VCID: 4CC26DF0B6448267811-8018

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 5Q0-907-530-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 907 530 AC    HW: 5Q0 907 530 M
   Component: GW MQB High   212 2203  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 21101410802153
   Coding: 0101000830085A005B00022C180B00000001010000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
   ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewConti 011020
   ROD: EV_GatewConti_011.rod
   VCID: 72BED308F420B4972BD-8026

   Alternator: 

   Multi Function Steering Wheel Control Module: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8U0 951 528 C    HW: 8U0 951 528 C
   Component: E221 - MFL  H02 0014 
   Serial number: 01 11 2014  F0001478

No fault code found.

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Address 22: AWD (J492)       Labels: 0CQ-907-554.clb
   Part No SW: 0CQ 907 554 D    HW: 0CQ 525 130 
   Component: Haldex4Motion H52 7082  
   Serial number: HA1-00007.10.14
   Coding: 0001
   Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AllWheelContrHA1VW37X 002013
   ROD: EV_AllWheelContrHA1VW37X_SK12.rod
   VCID: 46D65FD8A8287837575-8012

No fault code found.

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Address 2B: Steer. Col. Lock (J764)       Labels: 5Q0-905-861.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 905 861 A    HW: 5Q0 905 861 A
   Component: ELV-MQBA      H01 0120  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 14000294069005
   Coding: 5D00000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ELVMarquMQB 004111
   ROD: EV_ELVMarquMQB_SK25.rod
   VCID: 34321510CEB4FAA7F91-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels: 5QX-959-X93-42.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 593 D    HW: 5Q0 959 593 B
   Component: TSG FS        020 0028  
   Serial number: 22101401101049
   Coding: 00511F204000048000000002
   Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXKLO 006003
   ROD: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT.rod
   VCID: 42DE43C8840044177BD-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels: 5Q0-909-144.clb
   Part No SW: 3Q0 909 144 H    HW: 3Q0 909 144 H
   Component: EPS_MQB_ZFLS  505 5061  
   Coding: 8102
   Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisMQB 012140
   ROD: EV_SteerAssisMQB_VW31.rod
   VCID: 3728221CDFC211BFDC3-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 47: Sound System (J525)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 8V0 035 465 C    HW: 8V0 035 465 
   Component: MIBAMP1ALPINE H11 0410  
   Serial number: AUZ8ZAEN900T2KA
   Coding: 01030300AAAA2AAA01
   Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AMPMst16C1ALPI 004024
   ROD: EV_AMPMst16C1ALPI_004_AU37.rod
   VCID: 382A2120D2DC1EC7D59-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels: 5QX-959-X92-52.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 592 D    HW: 5Q0 959 592 B
   Component: TSG BFS       020 0028  
   Serial number: 29101401101712
   Coding: 005117204000048000000002
   Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXKLO 006003
   ROD: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT.rod
   VCID: 41DC4CC481065F0F627-8014

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range (J431)       Labels: 5Q0-907-357.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 907 357     HW: 6R0 907 357 A
   Component: LWR-ECU       005 0080  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 012A000101000000
   Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRMQB 001110
   ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRMQB_AU37.rod
   VCID: 75B4E814854EA3AF0EF-8020

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels: 8V0-035-MIB-STD1.clb
   Part No SW: 8V0 035 844     HW: 8V0 035 844 
   Component: MU-S-S-US     013 0626  
   Serial number: A7A00411140352
   Coding: 017301000000000021220002001A00002F0002240100010002
   Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CPASE 002040
   ROD: EV_MUStd4CPASE_AU37.rod
   VCID: 76B6EF189848A8B7075-8022

   Display unit 1 for multimedia system: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8V0 919 603 C    HW: 8V0 919 603 C
   Component: DU Std  H49 0013 
   Serial number: AUZ8Z9EY307904      

   Multimedia Operating Unit: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8V0 919 614 Q    HW: 8V0 919 614 Q
   Component: ControlUnit_B  H41 0054 
   Serial number: C1000011071400020161

No fault code found.

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Address A9: Struct. Borne Sound (J869)       Labels: 4H0-907-159.clb
   Part No SW: 8V0 907 159     HW: 4H0 907 159 A
   Component: SAS-GEN 2     H06 0012  
   Serial number: 140925200908
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SoundActuaGen2AU64X 003010
   ROD: EV_SoundActuaGen2AU64X_VW26.rod
   VCID: 7DA4F034BD7EFBEF46F-8028

No fault code found.

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Address BB: Door Rear Drv (J388)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 395 D    HW: 5Q0 959 395 B
   Component: TSG HFS       020 0028  
   Serial number: 03111403111856
   Coding: 004117204000048000000002
   Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCURearDriveMINKLO 006003
   ROD: EV_DCURearDriveMAXCONT.rod
   VCID: 42DE43C8840044177BD-8016

No fault code found.

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Address BC: Door Rear Pass (J389)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 395 D    HW: 5Q0 959 395 B
   Component: TSG HBFS      020 0028  
   Serial number: 03111402081849
   Coding: 004117204000048000000002
   Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCURearPasseMINKLO 006003
   ROD: EV_DCURearPasseMAXCONT.rod
   VCID: 42DE43C8840044177BD-8016

No fault code found.

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