Audi Q3 TPMS enabling

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I do not have an answer and I'm struggling to locate any 8U scans with this ABS module type and lack-of address 5F ... but the current condition Auto-Scan couldn't hurt.

Internal note, thiese may or may not be relevant: E?ID=324679, E?ID=378843, E?ID=372599
Dana,

Thank you very much for replying.

I will post an auto-scan tonight, as my car is now back to factory (I had to take it in for service and I reverted all changes so that they don't see the TPMS message).
What I suspect that you are asking for is an auto-scan after enabling TPMS, so I will run one this evening and post here.

Thank you very much.
 
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Yeah, with TPMS enabled please.
 
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Latest Auto-scan:

Code:
Wednesday,28,February,2018,16:32:17:35103
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 8.1 x64
VCDS Version: 18.2.0.3 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4411.4
Data version: 20180212 DS287.0
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VIN: WA1ECCFSXHR0XXXXX   License Plate: 
Mileage: 10600km-6586mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: FS-AU21 (8U0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 22 25 42 44 46 52 55 5F 62 6D 72
         

VIN: WA1ECCFSXHR0xxxxx   Mileage: 10600km-6586miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
6D-Trunk Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (CCT)       Labels:. 06J-906-026-CCT.clb
   Part No SW: 8U0 907 115 L    HW: 8U0 907 115 J
   Component: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI  06 0004  
   Revision: PAH05---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0123010A190F01A0
   Shop #: WSC 28781 002 1048576
   VCID: 40DA496FE68B52F7328-8014

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0001

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09G-927-750.clb
   Part No SW: 09G 927 750 NL    HW: 09G 927 750 NL
   Component: AQ 250 6F           2696  
   Revision: 00H97000    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0000840
   Shop #: WSC 00049 770 00131
   VCID: 084A914F8E3BAAB73A8-805C

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 5N0-614-109-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 5N0 614 109 CF    HW: 5N0 614 109 CJ
   Component: ESC-EBC460iV1 H12 0013  
   Serial number: A01DDR6
   Coding: 42FF269F492143702077420964C592C20424D500508B4883
   Shop #: WSC 00049 770 00154
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESCEPBTRW 006353
   ROD: EV_Brake1ESCEPBTRW_006.rod
   VCID: 71BCDCAB91218B7F8D6-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: None
   Part No SW: 8U0 820 047 G    HW: 8U0 820 047 G
   Component: J255  Klima Man     0030  
   Revision: 00H02001    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 392C248B8551033F756-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 8X0-907-063.clb
   Part No SW: 8X0 907 063 AG    HW: 8X0 907 063 AG
   Component: BCM PQ35  M   113 0821  
   Revision: AB113821    
   Coding: AF000A0FE80336C4A4184BC121440D4550FF66AA016F9523E40A06840045
   Shop #: WSC 00049 770 00015
   VCID: 015C8C6BA1019BFF7D6-8054

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8U1 955 119     HW: 8U1 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: WWS316 161110  H38 0090 
   Serial number:         161202235421
   Coding: 0047F7

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8U0 955 559 D    HW: 8U0 955 559 A  Labels: 8U0-955-559.CLB
   Component: G397_RLS  H06 0004 
   Serial number: 50080466            
   Coding: 02006E

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 F
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H01 0008 

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 8X0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 8U0 959 655 A    HW: 8U0 959 655 A
   Component: AirbagVW-AU10 H53 0723  
   Serial number: 003LQD12VCBY  
   Coding: 303932313231413130304A55304C38553053
   Shop #: WSC 00049 770 00119
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaAU10SMEAU316 002001
   ROD: EV_AirbaAU10SMEAU316_002.rod
   VCID: 45D4587BF52977DF01E-8010

   Seat occupied recognition: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8U0 959 339     HW: 8U0 959 339 
   Component: BF-Gewichtss.  H02 0020 
   Serial number: 5810000R160000FXJ7

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Component: S.Sens.Fahr.V  
   Serial number: 3574MSME7953485BZZZ4

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
   Component: S.Sens.Beif.V  
   Serial number: 3584MSME1D644B5CZZZ9

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 351 A    HW: 5K0 959 351 A
   Component: S.Sens.Fahr.H  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3516KSME4A652040ZZZK

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 351 A    HW: 5K0 959 351 A
   Component: S.Sens.Beif.H  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3526KSME056E0F40ZZZY

   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side: 
   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 8U0 959 651     HW: 8U0 959 651 
   Component: F.Sens.Fahr  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3555USME490E1140ZZZZ

   Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side: 
   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 8U0 959 651     HW: 8U0 959 651 
   Component: F.Sens.Beif  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3565USME58121140ZZZP

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 8X0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 8X0 953 501 D    HW: 5K0 953 569 AL
   Component: LENKS.MODUL   016 0180  
   Revision: FF010018    Serial number: 20161215100521
   Coding: 1984204000
   Shop #: WSC 00049 770 00119
   ASAM Dataset: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS A03004
   ROD: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS.rod
   VCID: 3B203E8383ED312F67A-806E

   Multifunction steering wheel control module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8U0 951 528 G    HW: 8U0 951 528 G
   Component: E221 - MFL  H08 0010 
   Serial number: 09 12 2016  C0014777

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 8X0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 8U0 920 930 H    HW: 8U0 920 930 H
   Component: KOMBI_MEDIUM  H05 0540  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 32CF01
   Shop #: WSC 00049 770 00119
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_AU10 A04399
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_AU10.rod
   VCID: 3C223D9F86E336176E0-8068

1 Fault Found:
16776988 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s) 
          U1111 00 [008] - -
          [Steuergerät für Reifendruckkontrolle +: keine Kommunikation]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 87
                    Mileage: 10604 km
                    Date: 2018.02.28
                    Time: 16:22:40


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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 8X0-907-468.clb
   Part No SW: 8U0 907 468 AS    HW: 8U0 907 468 J
   Component: GAT 4CAN 2L M H13 0090  
   Revision: 1R190044    Serial number: 4441R16B3002B7
   Coding: F3460A5A050B0D610253
   Shop #: WSC 00049 770 00119
   VCID: 1370B623CB7D196FDFA-8046

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8U0 959 591 A    HW: 8V3 959 591 A
   Component: J245 PS11.403  H03 0004 
   Serial number: 0000FST001BLWSL00000
   Coding: 101E00

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 1K0 915 181 L    HW: 1K0 915 181 L
   Component: J367-BDM  H07 0270 
   Serial number: 33342I01145831018801

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8U0 959 591 A    HW: 8V3 959 591 A
   Component: J394 PS11.403  H03 0004 
   Serial number: 0000FST001BLWTM00000
   Coding: 001E00

No fault code found.

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Address 22: AWD (J492)       Labels:* 0CQ-907-554.clb
   Part No SW: 0AY 907 554 J    HW: 0CQ 525 130 
   Component: Haldex4Motion H52 7540  
   Serial number: HA1-00015.11.16
   Coding: 0001
   Shop #: WSC 00049 770 00154
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AllWheelContrHA1VW37X 002015
   ROD: EV_AllWheelContrHA1VW37X.rod
   VCID: 52FE73273467D06794C-8006

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 8U0 920 930 H    HW: 8U0 920 930 H
   Component: IMMO          H05 0540  
   Serial number:               
   Coding: 000002
   Shop #: WSC 00049 770 00119
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_AU10 A04113
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_AU10.rod
   VCID: 3C223D9F86E336176E0-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:. 8X0-959-793.clb
   Part No SW: 8X0 959 793 K    HW: 8X0 959 793 K
   Component: TSG FA        H11 0415  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 011E03200000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00049 770 00154
   VCID: 55F4883B0509C75F71E-8000

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 5N1-909-144.clb
   Part No SW: 5N1 909 144 S    HW: 5N1 909 148 K
   Component: J500__APA-BS KL.377 1501  
   Revision: 1BH04843    Serial number: 00163140160701
   Coding: 0000258
   Shop #: WSC 00049 770 00154
   VCID: 42DE4367E88740E724C-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:. 8X0-959-792.clb
   Part No SW: 8X0 959 792 K    HW: 8X0 959 792 K
   Component: TSG BF        H11 0415  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 011E03200C00000000
   Shop #: WSC 00049 770 00154
   VCID: 54F2753F0EF3DE57860-8000

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range (J431)       Labels:| 8X0-907-357.clb
   Part No SW: 8X0 907 357 E    HW: 8X0 907 357 B
   Component: ****LWR12**** H02 0020  
   Serial number: 161206-0002-130
   Coding: 16C7A41010022400
   Shop #: WSC 00049 770 00154
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulBasic 005001
   ROD: EV_HeadlRegulBasic.rod
   VCID: 44D2457FFE134ED7160-8010

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 8U1 035 187 B    HW: 8U1 035 187 A
   Component: RMC Cnct Sir  H62 0170  
   Coding: 01000600028051070023000102010000010000
   Shop #: WSC 00049 770 00119
   VCID: 382A218FB25B1A378A8-806C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8U0 919 603 A    HW: 8U0 919 603 A
   Component: DUBasic AU316  H43 0018 
   Serial number: AUZ8ZDGCS038WS0     

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left (J388)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 8X0 959 795 C    HW: 8X0 959 795 C
   Component: TSG HL        H08 0415  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 010E03200000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00049 770 00154
   VCID: 4FF87A5327D5BD8FBB2-801A

No fault code found.

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Address 6D: Trunk Elect. (----)       Labels:* Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 8U0 959 107 A    HW: 8U0 959 107 A
   Component: HDSG-Modul    H02 0552  
   Revision: 15001001    Serial number: 328601189
   Coding: 183307C102
   Shop #: WSC 00049 770 00154
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HDSGAU316 001001
   ROD: EV_HDSGAU316.rod
   VCID: 3D24309B9DF93F1F59E-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right (J389)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 8X0 959 795 C    HW: 8X0 959 795 C
   Component: TSG HR        H08 0415  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 010E03200000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00049 770 00154
   VCID: 4FF87A5327D5BD8FBB2-801A

No fault code found.

End----(Elapsed Time: 01:20, VBatt start/end: 12.0V/12.0V. VIgn 12.0V)-----
It appears that the TPMS being disabled and re-enabled wiped out the low pressure fault message.
Worst case scenario, I could do that every time I have a fault, if I have the interface with me.

Though it would be so nice to enable it in MMI, wink wink nudge nudge :)

Thank you very much.
 
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Sorry for reviving and old post, I was wondering if there were any new updates for this module.

It would be so awesome to enable the menu in MMI to reset TPMS...
 
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I managed to locate one scan from a 2016 Q3 with 7K6 - Tire pressure monitoring system and that RMC Cnct Sir 5F unit. I believe it is Canadian market based on PL24 data such as Labels in English and French. I can't share the entire thing, nor am I recommending you paste this string directly into your 5F, but those details are:

Model Audi Q3 2.0
AQ3
Date of production 07.12.2015
Year 2016
Sales type 8UG5CX
Engine Code CCTA
Transmission Code QNT

Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794) Labels: None
Part No SW: 8U1 035 187 A HW: 8U1 035 187 A
Component: RMC Cnct Sir H61 0139
Coding: 0100060002C057070023020102010000000000​

So, we would need to compare your 5F coding to his to see which bits aren't the same and then use process of elimination (or trial and error) to see if one happens to mean TPMS 7K6 activated via MMI.

0100060002C057070023020102010000000000 (7K6 car)
01000600028051070023000102010000010000 (Your car)

I'll report back if I can locate any charts that may add clarity. In the meanwhile, if you try any portions of the above coding please do so one bit at a time.
 
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Dana,


Thank you very much, you are amazing, I will try the coding, going bit by bit...
Looks like only 4 bytes are affected, may not be too bad.

I read somewhere that a restart of the radio might be required, I sure hope that ignition off will cut it.

Either way, I will report the results.
 
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D'oh! No dice.

I even tried ALL changes from the other vehicle, no changes.
Still not TPMS reset in the MMI, so I put it back.

Could there be an adaptation involved?
Some of the posts, referring to other vehicles, mention changes to adaptations.

Thanks again for the info.
 
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Just a thought, when I looked at the green menu there was no mention of RDK on my unit, something I have seen elsewhere on the web.
Would it be possbile that the coding above would actually enable the TPMS menu on the radio instead of the menu directly?
I will try that when I get a chance, but I thought it can’t hurt to ask.

Edit: tried it to no avail.
In all fairness, I only tried with the other car’s coding at once, not one at a time, then entered the green menu. No option for “car” nor did I see anything related to TPMS (RDK).
 
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Thanks for the update. I did not come up with anything conclusive in the coding but the fact that you used the entire string leads me to believe this is either an Adp function or parameters. Since we are limited to one scan with that 5F (RMC Cnct Sir) and 7K6 TPMS in our records ... you might want to post a wanted in this sub-forum:

http://forums.ross-tech.com/forumdisplay.php?45-Reference-Scans-and-Maps-of-Non-Broken-Cars

Adp and MVB Control module maps from a 5F with that component data may be helpful.
 
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Dana,

Thank you very much for not giving up on me.
I posted a request.
 
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I tried to activate TPMS in my car (RS Q3 - 2014) a while back. I could activate the TPMS because I needed to code something in the ABS module, which I could not enter due to lack of security code. I remember though that I managed to get a menu in the MMI, (Greyed out) that said something about Reset TPMS.
I guess it was greyed out because I did not manage to activate the TPMS.

I did a fulld scan at that time as well which I have posted here somewhere on the forum. Is that what you need?
As far as I can understand the only thing I need is the right ABS module?
 
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With regard to the contact ABS pump, if you look at the build sticker in the boot or trunk there will be a code That will be either 1AT or 1AS, I think TPM requires the 1AT model, if you have a look at my recent post on Auto Hill Hold there are two full scans of two Q3’s with TPM one a 2.0 petrol stronic and the other a 2.0 diesel manual. Hope they may be of some help to you
 
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I do have the 1AT. At least it says so on the sticker in the manual.
But my ABS (03) module is only 3 bytes long, and not long coding helper.

Coding: 00 C5 BA
 
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D'oh! No dice.

I even tried ALL changes from the other vehicle, no changes.
Still not TPMS reset in the MMI, so I put it back.

Could there be an adaptation involved?
Some of the posts, referring to other vehicles, mention changes to adaptations.

Thanks again for the info.
Following the manual here:
http://www.audienthusiasts.com/VagComABS.html

Gives me a Tyre Presseure Monitoring in the MMI. Just that my TPMS is not enabled. I am quite sure that here the option will be to reset the TPMS in the mmi as long as the tpms is enabled.
It is being enabled using the green menu.
Do a code compare, and find out the difference before and after.
 
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Thanks, but I looked at this site before and I do not have the Radio 56 module, I have the 5F, which is not documented there.
I do not have the car menu in the green menu, nor do I have anything related to RDK in there.

That is the reason for all this back and forth.

Have a peek at my coding for the ABS, maybe you can compare with yours if you have the same part. Though I do not have the RS, I do have the 1AT.
 
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Just a follow-up post...

I am still hoping that this radio module is becoming more familiar as time passes and more documentation becomes available.
Would the latest beta have any information on adaptations for it?

Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794) Labels: None
Part No SW: 8U1 035 187 B HW: 8U1 035 187 A
Component: RMC Cnct Sir H62 0170
 
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A quick look over the label files did not present any fitting file.
 
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A quick look over the label files did not present any fitting file.
Thanks TBAx, this is an obscure one.
Dana looked at it a while ago and suggested that I post a request, which I did.
Unfortunately, though, no-one posted any info.

Just a thought, searching the web for the part number yielded a similar radio part that starts with '6RD' instead of '8U1'
Seeing that 8U is the model code for Q3 and 6R is Polo, could the part be the same, just adapted to the platform?
In other words, could the label file for 6RD 035 187 B work for mine?

Thanks for any suggestions.
 
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It was worth a shot but .. all of the 6RD-035-187-? 56 modules redirect to 5M0-035-1xx-56.CLB which is the same as the RCD-510 (non-navi version of Mk5/6 era RNS-510).

My 2010 GTI was born with that type of radio https://forums.ross-tech.com/showthread.php?170-mk6-xenon-retrofit&p=28552&viewfull=1#post28552

.. but it used a significantly shorter coding without any TPMS options.


The same applies to the RNS-510 in my indirect TPMS 2012 Tiggy with 1T0 lbl file:

Address 56: Radio (J0506) Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
Part No SW: 3C0 035 684 E HW: 3C0 035 684 E
Component: RNS-MID H08 2625
Revision: AB001001 Serial number: VWZ6Z7L5157148
Coding: 0405000201000084000C
Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200​

The cluster has the indirect TPMS reset rather than 37/56 on-screen menus. Scan from that car is here https://forums.ross-tech.com/showth...r-my-2012-Sharan&p=13575&viewfull=1#post13575

Edit. I do not have any additional info to offer you at this time for the coding of your 5F.
 
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