Jetta Mk6 TDI (2014) - Canadian Highline Model - Puddle Lights?

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Hello,

Has anyone implemented the puddle lights/door lights on a Mk6 Jetta 2014 Highline (Canadian version)? I have seen the guides online but these are mostly for the Golf Mk6 or Jetta GLI.

I have the following window/other Central Electronics:
Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)
HW: 6R0 959 801 AN
HW: 6R0 959 802 AS
HW: 5K0 959 591
HW: 5K0 959 542 C
HW: 6R0 959 811 M
HW: 6R0 959 812 M

If no one has done this, is there a safe way to map-out the functions that the different bits in the controller might have? I was thinking of perhaps measuring the pins at the controller in the door while activating different bits. Is there a method that Ross-Tech has for mapping these sorts of things out on new controllers?
 
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Thanks Keithuk, I took a look but this info is for the earlier versions. The controllers seem to have changed yet again in 2014.
 
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Post an autoscan need to have a look at your door modules do you have electric folding mirrors/mirror dip in reverse?
I have fitted the above to my Tiguan and the puddle lights come as part of this upgrade
 
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Hi bambazonke,

here is the scan:

Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels: 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
Part No SW: 5C0 937 087 J HW: 5C0 937 087 A
Component: BCM25 JLB H3 H34 0411
Revision: B2034001 Serial number: 08013025141006
Coding: 7B994B9A08230F0008382000240884C50082502E6000000030A010002000
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 34670844972C8ABE4FF-8061

Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 AN HW: 6R0 959 801 AN Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB (Drivers door control unit)
Component: J386__TSG_FT 006 5461
Coding: 820000

Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 AS HW: 6R0 959 802 AS Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB (Front passenger control unit)
Component: J387__TSG_BT 006 5461
Coding: 820000

Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 591 HW: 5K0 959 591 (Sun roof motor)
Component: J245 PS41.022 H10 0007
Coding: 180000

Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542 C HW: 5K0 959 542 C (Steering wheel module)
Component: E221__MFL-TAS H31 0037
Coding: 020000

Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 M HW: 6R0 959 811 M (Rear left door control unit)
Component: J388__TSG_HL 006 5460
Coding: 800000

Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 M HW: 6R0 959 812 M (Rear right door control unit)
Component: J389__TSG_HR 006 5460
Coding: 800000

I am simply looking for a way of being able to add the bottom door warning/puddle (whatever else people call them) lights?

I have not noticed the mirrors dip in anyway when reversing.
 
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Ok from your partial Autoscan it appears your door modules are sub modules of the main BCM #9 module much like the Amarok. You do not have separate #42 and #52 UDS front door modules with rear door sub or slave modules, which the Tiguan Jetta and Golf 6 sold here in Australia have.
I suggest you look at the long coding (820000)of the door modules to see if they support ie have a byte bit to activate door entry/exit warning lights. Puddle lights are those lights mounted in the door mirrors. These are linked to the light sensor and are activated when you press the remote to open or lock the car.

If the modules support it try the pin allocations advertised in the boldsport.com using a multimeter before hand
 
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Thanks for the info. I have already looked into all of what you have suggested. It appears that the modules are too new and there isn't any description in VCDS for any of the bits when using Long Coding helper.

As mentioned in my original post "If no one has done this, is there a safe way to map-out the functions that the different bits in the controller might have? I was thinking of perhaps measuring the pins at the controller in the door while activating different bits. Is there a method that Ross-Tech has for mapping these sorts of things out on new controllers?" I am really looking for a reply from Ross-Tech, unless someone else has any suggestions.

I find it highly unlikely that just because the bits are not labeled means that the controller is not capable of the door warning lights. My experience with VW is that they tend to have more functionality, but typically, and like always it is not exposed.

Is it possible to change the long coding (820000) bits to test functionality without somehow affecting the controller? My understanding is that any of the VW controllers breakdown to a bootloader, firmware (software on the controller) and configurational parameters which VCDS (Long coding for bits) and VCDS (Adaptation for values) can adjust.

Appreciate any feedback.
 
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Too little time are you familar with using longcoder.exe on it's own? I have just entered the value 820000 in for your front door modules and only bits 1&7 in byte 0 are activated! really strange I would have expected alot more bits to be activated maybe someone at Ross Tech can elaborate on this as i am not sure if this value from your autoscan is the hex or decimal value. You can create a custom xpl file and save it in the user's directory which is found in the labels directory in VCDS. This will allow you to experiment switching individual bits on and off whilst connected to the car.
 
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Too little time are you familar with using longcoder.exe on it's own? I have just entered the value 820000 in for your front door modules and only bits 1&7 in byte 0 are activated! really strange I would have expected alot more bits to be activated maybe someone at Ross Tech can elaborate on this as i am not sure if this value from your autoscan is the hex or decimal value. You can create a custom xpl file and save it in the user's directory which is found in the labels directory in VCDS. This will allow you to experiment switching individual bits on and off whilst connected to the car.

Bambazonke: hi again (I've always liked the audible sound of your handle)! Why do you find the longcoder.exe output strange? If you look at the hex sequence 82 00 00, the only active part in this string is byte 0. Hex82 translates to binary 1000 (high nibble) & 0010 (low nibble). That is, bit 7 & bit 1 are the only "high" bits.
 
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The origin of my handle
http://www.theindependent.co.zw/2014/01/10/light-end-tunnel-harare/
It was where I was born. Similar situation here now with Brisbane claiming all the funds for new development :)

I was comparing the coding of my relatively new UDS controllers in my Tiguan to that above where my coding for driver's and passenger modules is 02 12 FE and 02 13 FE respectively. Door exit/warning lights as retrofitted in my Tiguan are activated at byte 2 bit 6. I also had a look at the Amarok front door coding that also has a similar setup to the Jetta coding in the OP with the door modules being sub modules of the main BCM module. The Amarok coding is 11 00 00 where again only byte 0 is the active part of the string with bit 0 and 4 being the "high" bits. I am hoping one of these days to have a look at one of these door modules and see the PIN allocations as an Amarok owner has approached me about installing these lights in his vehicle
 
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I tested the rear controllers bit by bit, I will hopefully post the results as soon as I get a chance.

Btw, the BCM/CECM module you are referring to controls the door modules through what appears to be a LIN bus. This would mean that the coding might be simplified since more could be off loaded in the main CECM.
 
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Can anyone help?

I have a 2013 VW Passat TDI SEL i bought the kit of puddle lights from Bold Motorsports and the front doors were easy they already had the connector and it was just plug and play. But when i got to the back doors i took the door panel off and tried everything i could think of but i could not find where to plug in the wires to get the puddle light to work they say the lights should work on my car i watched there video but there video was older and my door panels don't have the same wiring as the video so i am lost. Can someone please help me out with this i would greatly appreciate it.?
 
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