Audi A6 C5 Allroad ABS not accepting Automatic to Manual soft coding

[LeeMee]

Good afternoon,

I'm having some difficulty coding my ABS to accept the coding from an automatic to manual transmission swap.

I'm able to log in using my cars PR code but then when i change the soft coding there is no change and just shows the existing coding.

The old TCM unit has been disconnected so it does show a TCM missing fault could this be the reason why it wont accept the coding change ?

Log in for the car is 07495 and the existing ABS coding is 06387 and i need to change it to 06385.
I got a feeling i need to swap the abs ECU for a manual one at this rate.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Uwe]

Please post an Auto-Scan for context.

-Uwe-

 

[LeeMee]

Sunday,03,January,2021,12:06:16:35125
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 20.12.0.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4529.4
Data version: 20201124 DS322.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WAUZZZ4B74N020717   License Plate:


Chassis Type: 4B (4B - Audi A6/S6/RS6/allroad C5 (1998 > 2005))
Scan: 01 02 03 06 08 15 16 17 18 22 34 35 36 37 45 55 56 57 65 67
          75 76 77

VIN: WAUZZZ4B74N020717  
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4D0 907 560 BF    HW: 8E0 907 560
   Component: 4.2L V8/5V      G   0030 
   Coding: 0011755
   Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
   VCID: 6B8239AA1F9D6303B61-5160

1 Fault Found:
18034 - Powertrain Data Bus
            P1626 - 008 - Missing Message from TCU
Readiness: 0110 1101

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 8D0-907-389.lbl
   Part No: 4Z7 907 389 A
   Component: ABS/ESP allrad      D56 
   Coding: 06387
   Shop #: WSC 02325 
   VCID: 4ACC9C2E75A79A0BED7-5160

1 Fault Found:
18034 - Powertrain Data Bus
            P1626 - 35-00 - Missing Message from TCU

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Address 06: Seat Mem. Pass        Labels: None
   Part No: 4B0 959 760 C
   Component: Sitzmemory R1 BF    0205 
   Coding: 00003
   Shop #: WSC 00000 
   VCID: 2D06F7B2E439AD33E85-4B00

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 4B0-820-043-MY2.lbl
   Part No: 4B0 820 043 AR
   Component: A6-Klimavollautomat 0208 
   Coding: 00101
   Shop #: WSC 02325 
   VCID: 6A8C3CAE15577A0BCD7-2586

2 Faults Found:
01592 - Air Quality Sensor (G238)
            57-00 - Electric Circuit Failure
01206 - Signal for Duration of Ignition Off Time
            27-00 - Implausible Signal

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 4B0-959-655-AI84.lbl
   Part No: 4Z7 959 655 H
   Component: Airbag 8.4EP        3000 
   Coding: 0000106
   Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
   VCID: 54F08256A2E3DCFB87B-5184

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 4B0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No: 4B0 920 981 L
   Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. VDO D12 
   Coding: 04483
   Shop #: WSC 00001 
   VCID: 2F3AEDBAEE05DF23DA9-5160
   WAUZZZ4B74N020717     AUZ7Z0C2424294

1 Fault Found:
01315 - Transmission Control Module
            49-00 - No Communications

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Address 34: Level Control        Labels: 4Z7-907-553.lbl
   Part No: 4Z7 907 553 F
   Component:  - 2C1A1          D060   
   Coding: 25500
   Shop #: WSC 00060 
   VCID: 48C8A6266BAB681BFB3-513C

1 Fault Found:
01316 - ABS Control Module
            79-00 - Please Check Fault Codes

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Address 35: Centr. Locks        Labels:. 4B0-962-258.clb
   Part No: 4B0 962 258 N
   Component: Zentralverrieg.,DWA D38 
   Coding: 06859
   Shop #: WSC 02325 
   VCID: 3430E2D60713FCFBA7B-4F0C

No fault code found.

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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr        Labels: None
   Part No: 4B0 959 760 B
   Component: Sitzmemory R1 F     0204 
   Coding: 00001
   Shop #: WSC 00000 
   VCID: 2C00FAB6DF23A43BFFB-4B1E

No fault code found.

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Address 45: Inter. Monitor        Labels: 4B0-951-178.lbl
   Part No: 4B0 951 178 A
   Component: Innenraumueberw.    D04 
   Coding: 00102
   Shop #: WSC 02325 
   VCID: 2614089EC1CF9E6B29F-50F4

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 4Z7-907-357.lbl
   Part No: 4Z7 907 357
   Component: dynamische LWR       D09 
   Coding: 00030
   Shop #: WSC 02325 
   VCID: 0450721617338C7B57B-4B3C

1 Fault Found:
01535 - Control Circuit for Right Headlight Range Adjusting Motor (V49)
            30-00 - Open or Short to Plus

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: None
   Part No: 4B0 035 195 R
   Component: symphony II NP2    0152  
   Coding: 00201
   Shop #: WSC 00976 
   VCID: 2F3AEDBAEE35DF23DA9-4E84

No fault code found.

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Address 76: Park Assist        Labels: 8E0-919-283-8E2.lbl
   Part No: 8E0 919 283
   Component: Parkingsyst. A6 RDW D09 
   Coding: 11186
   Shop #: WSC 02325 
   VCID: 6D8637B224B96D33A85-5160

No fault code found.

End----------(Elapsed Time: 05:12, VBatt start/end: 12.4V/12.3V)-----------

 

[LeeMee]

The Ecu has now been flashed with the coding for a manual gearbox but it still shows the TCM fault.
Regards Liam

 

[Uwe]

That exact ABS module does exist in manual transmission cars (e.g. here, so I don't think it needs to be changed.

The '8' in the 2nd-to-last digit of your existing ABS coding has me scratching my head. The 8 is undocumented, but some web-searching for scans has me thinking it might be unique to V8 cars with automatic transmissions (and I think all the V8s came from the factory with automatics?)...

What happens if you log in with 07495 and code it with 06395?

-Uwe-

 

[LeeMee]

We have been head scratching a little as even the engine ecu is still looking for the TCM even though we have changed the coding for the manual gearbox. My plan is to put an S4 BBK tune on it as i'm running the S4 camshafts but there is some differences between the BAS ecu and the BBK. The BAS ecu uses a vacuum pump and pressure sensor whereas the BBK doesn't.
Bear with me i will just try that coding thanks

 

[LeeMee]

Ok so it accepted the 06395 code but the following faults remain

Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 8D0-907-389.lbl
Control Module Part Number: 4Z7 907 389 A
Component and/or Version: ABS/ESP allrad D56
Software Coding: 06395
Work Shop Code: WSC 02325
VCID: 4ACC9C2E75B79A0BED7-5160
2 Faults Found:

01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded
35-00 - -
18034 - Powertrain Data Bus
P1626 - 35-00 - Missing Message from TCU

 

[NEtech]

Try if this is accepted:
log in with 07485 and code it with 06385?

 

[Uwe]

Also check your Instrument Cluster. What do you have in Adaptation channel 060 there?

+0001 - Engine
+0002 - Autom. Transmission
+1024 - Instrument cluster
+2048 - Self leveling suspension (Allroad only)

-Uwe-

 

[LeeMee]

The value was 1027 but i changed it to 1025 to ignore the TCM i assume this is correct ?

 

[Uwe]

Yes, but I'd think it should have thhe +2048 for Self-Leveling Suspension too. Since that's not a source of any issues at the moment, I'd leave it at 1025 for now.

-Uwe-

 

[LeeMee]

So 3073 would be the best for adaptive suspension and to clear the TCM from the cluster.

What i'm thinking of doing with the ECU is to flash it with a manual BBK S4 tune and softcode it so it shows it as an audi A4 11711 and code the ABS as 06395 do you think that this may solve my issue to get it working with no faults ?

Thanks for the help so far

 

[LeeMee]

The car is now working as required.
Had a contact who was able to edit the main ecu flash as a manual even though there was never a 4.2 manual file.
Flashed new bin to ecu, abs and ecu softcoded for the manual box.
Drives perfectly so glad I was able to complete the conversion correctly and is possibly the only manual converted 4.2 v8 C5 Allroad in the uk currently.

 

[veeone]

Hello LeeMee Just done the 6-speed swap on my allroad 4.2 and had manual bin flashed to the ecu by Audis4parts not sure which they have put on it though.
Just having some soft coding issues and is there a chance you can post a scan of your car or tell me what soft coding you put into your various modules please?
I have had to leave my old auto trans ecu connected or else i lose the ABS ecu communication totally from scans. Is this a V8 common issue?
Cheers thanks for any help. V1

 

[LeeMee]

Hello LeeMee Just done the 6-speed swap on my allroad 4.2 and had manual bin flashed to the ecu by Audis4parts not sure which they have put on it though.
Just having some soft coding issues and is there a chance you can post a scan of your car or tell me what soft coding you put into your various modules please?
I have had to leave my old auto trans ecu connected or else i lose the ABS ecu communication totally from scans. Is this a V8 common issue?
Cheers thanks for any help. V1

Hi good job on the 6MT swap .
I do not run the TCM and never had the issue you describe in my car as the guy that modified my ECU Binary used I believe the manual parts of an ANK manual S6 file.
He is well known with the RS6 C5 scene for performing the same manual swaps so really knows what he's doing.
I also had to do some data logging of the NVQ gear quotient so that cruise works correctly with the right values for the cruise control to work as the tip was only 5 speed and cruise did not operate in 6th.
I modified my own Binary to allow for the softcoding to be used and programmed the cluster and ABS module as per manual coding.
My ECU is coded 11715 or 2D C3 Hex you'll find the locations for SCV at the decimal location 87044, 171666-171748, 171888.
I also changed the small 1kb EEPROM file for the softcoding above but I'm sure once the ECU has the correct softcoding VCDS will allow you to change the value.
Hope this helps you out or if not I can get in touch with my guy and he can hook you up with a working file.

 

[LeeMee]

Also if you post a scan we can see what's going on too.

Cheers

 

[veeone]

Wow thats quite involved. Bit beyond my knowledge at present. I am am away at work so cannot post up a scan for a while. Will try your settings and see what happens LeeMee. Thanks for the reply.

 

[veeone]

Also if you post a scan we can see what's going on too.

Cheers

Monday,21,November,2022,20:55:06:47246
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 22.3.1.4 (x64)  HEX-NET CB: 0.4615.4
Data version: 20220407 DS337.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WAUZZZ4B74N062773   License Plate: BLUE
Mileage: 178790km-111094mi   Repair Order:



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Chassis Type: 4B (4B - Audi A6/S6/RS6/allroad C5 (1998 > 2005))
Scan: 01 02 03 06 08 15 16 17 18 22 34 35 36 37 45 55 56 57 65 67
          75 76 77
 
VIN: WAUZZZ4B74N062773   Mileage: 178790km-111094miles
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 079-910-560-BBK.lbl
   Part No SW: 8E0 910 560     HW: 8E0 907 560
   Component: 4.2L V8/5V      G   0030
   Coding: 0011711
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 08192
   VCID: 62885B73BCF73F9FB9-5160
   VINID: 9D196AAAA1121C47801821C70CD3A4E08D

3 Faults Found:
18044 - Powertrain Data Bus
            P1636 - 008 - Missing Message from Airbag Controller
18107 - Powertrain Data Bus
            P1699 - 008 - Missing Message from Steering Wheel Electronics
19475 - Valve for Exhaust Flap 1 (N321)
            P3019 - 004 - Open Circuit
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 8D0-907-389.lbl
   Part No: 4Z7 907 389 A
   Component: ABS/ESP allrad      D56
   Coding: 06395
   Shop #: WSC 02335
   VCID: 4AD893D3740787DF51-5160

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 4B0-820-043-MY2.lbl
   Part No: 4B0 820 043 AQ
   Component: A6-Klimavollautomat 0208
   Coding: 00101
   Shop #: WSC 00000
   VCID: 699A4C5F12C16CC778-2580

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 4B0-959-655-AI84.lbl
   Part No: 4Z7 959 655 M
   Component: Airbag 8.4EP        1000
   Coding: 0000706
   Shop #: WSC 02334 785 00200
   VCID: 59FA7C9F91A1FC47E8-5184

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 4B0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No: 4B0 920 935 B
   Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. VDO D15
   Coding: 04783
   Shop #: WSC 00222
   VCID: 24041D6BB66371AF8B-5160
   WAUZZZ4B74N062773     AUZ7Z0C2476684

No fault code found.

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Address 34: Level Control        Labels: 4Z7-907-553.lbl
   Part No: 4Z7 907 553 F
   Component:  - 2C1A1          X060  
   Coding: 25500
   Shop #: WSC 02335
   VCID: 48DCA9DB6A0B75CF47-513C

No fault code found.

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Address 35: Centr. Locks        Labels:. 4B0-962-258.clb
   Part No: 4B0 962 258 N
   Component: Zentralverrieg.,DWA D38
   Coding: 15977
   Shop #: WSC 00010
   VCID: 3424ED2B0583E12F1B-4F0C

4 Faults Found:
01559 - Drivers Door
            59-10 - Can't Unlock - Intermittent
01561 - Rear left door
            59-00 - Can't Unlock
01581 - Incorrect Component Detected
            35-00 - -
01134 - Alarm Horn (H12)
            77-00 - Internal Supply Voltage

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Address 37: Navigation        Labels: 8E0-035-192-RNSE.clb
   Part No SW: 8E0 035 192 Q    HW: 8E0 035 192 Q
   Component: RNS-E HIGH EU   H74 0600
   Revision:      04S    Serial number: AUZBZ7G1144800
   Coding: 0509111
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 3228EB33AF97EF1F09-5118

1 Fault Found:
02005 - Coding Pin
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 101
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2022.11.14
                    Time: 22:41:29


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Address 45: Inter. Monitor        Labels: 4B0-951-178.lbl
   Part No: 4B0 951 178 A
   Component: Innenraumueberw.    D04
   Coding: 00102
   Shop #: WSC 02334
   VCID: 26000763C35F83BF95-50D0

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 4Z7-907-357.lbl
   Part No: 4Z7 907 357
   Component: dynamische LWR       D09
   Coding: 00030
   Shop #: WSC 02334
   VCID: 04447DEB15A391AFEB-4B1E

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 8E0-035-192-RNSE.clb
   Part No SW: 8E0 035 192 Q    HW: 8E0 035 192 Q
   Component: RNS-E HIGH EU   H74 0600
   Revision:      04S    Serial number: AUZBZ7G1144800
   Coding: 0509111
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 3228EB33AF97EF1F09-5118

1 Fault Found:
02005 - Coding Pin
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 101
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2022.11.14
                    Time: 22:41:29


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Address 76: Park Assist        Labels: 8E0-919-283-8E2.lbl
   Part No: 8E0 919 283
   Component: Parkingsyst. A6 RDW D09
   Coding: 01186
   Shop #: WSC 02334
   VCID: 6D92384F262970E714-513C

2 Faults Found:
01543 - Parking Aid Warning Chime (H15)
            31-00 - Open or Short to Ground
01625 - Front Parking Aid Warning Chime (H22)
            28-10 - Short to Plus - Intermittent

End----------(Elapsed Time: 04:42, VBatt start/end: 12.3V/12.3V)-----------

 

[veeone]

Not sure how to edit. Latest scan above after my 7.5 hour commute to where i work. Still no working cruise control and this is with S4 ECU installed i sourced from UK. Forgot LeeMee we were talking on this thread about the few issues i had. So you have working cruise control in 5th and 6th with your allroad 6 speed conversion??
Prior to you getting it operational what problems did you have in measuring blocks? I have no set resume or accel working. All others work eg clutch and brake pedal inputs and cruise shows as active in ECU. Power on off button works.

 

[PetrolDave]

There's a clue to the cruise control problem in the Auto-Scan - the engine ECU is expecting a message from the steering wheel electronics:

18107 - Powertrain Data Bus P1699 - 008 - Missing Message from Steering Wheel Electronics

The steering wheel electronics should appear in the Auto-Scan at address 16, but there is no response despite it being in the list of addresses that are scanned:

Scan: 01 02 03 06 08 15 16 17 18 22 34 35 36 37 45 55 56 57 65 67 75 76 77

While looking through the Auto-Scan I noticed another fault code I can comment on from the RNS-E at addresses 37 & 56:

02005 - Coding Pin 004 - No Signal/Communication Freeze Frame: Fault Status: 01100100 Fault Priority: 5 Fault Frequency: 1 Reset counter: 101 Time Indication: 0 Date: 2022.11.14 Time: 22:41:29

This is caused by the RNS-E being coded for Bose but the Bose pin on the RNS-E not being connected to ground, does your Allroad have Bose?