A8 [D3] & A6 [4F] Battery ECU compatability? ...

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Hi Eric; a couple of points:
1) On my earlier BEM logs you actually print the voltages against the entries and you 'knew' the values because you checked the ECU against a VAS5xxx. Have you checked the 'newer' BEMs with a VAS to see that the different levels are set the same?
We have. We try not to leave anything to guessing :)
2) I ask because I would have thought most modern cars would struggle to maintain 12.5V with alarms etc. so 'dropping below 12.5V' is not a great issue or one that warrants a record in the BEM. :confused:
It seems to be just right for my S4 with an ultragauge connected. Alarms have always been around, and with the proliferation of control modules in newer cars, come also much more efficient electronics, at least in sleep mode. If you look at chip spec sheets made in the last decade, sleep current draw is always featured prominently.

In other news, just noticed a coding bit in YP's NMS to make her 61 store history data! Here's the first read after recoding:
Code:
Friday,24,February,2017,09:49:12:18206
VCDS Version: Beta 17.2.4
                Address 61: Battery Regul.
Control Module Part Number: 7N0 907 534 
  Component and/or Version: Batt.regelung H55 1663
           Software Coding: E1240859
            Work Shop Code: WSC 09003
                      VCID: 71BCDFA931AD6B6FC95-8024

History Data

Record 1/16: No-load voltage underranging
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Record 2/16: No-load current overranging 
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Record 3/16: Shut-off stage history
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Record 4/16: Battery change history
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Record 5/16: Energy-critical vehicle states
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Record 6/16: Energy balances (last 10 trips)
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Record 7/16: Energy balances (last 10 standing times)
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2000-01-01-00:00*000*+000.0*000.0*00.0*00.0**

Record 8/16
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2000-01-01-00:00*0*00*00*00*00*2000-01-01-00:00*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*0*00*00*00*00*2000-01-01-00:00*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*0*00*00*00*00*2000-01-01-00:00*00**

Record 9/16
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Record 10/16: Dynamic energy management
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2000-01-01-00:00*0*000.0*0*000.0*00.00**
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Record 11/16
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Record 12/16: Start-Stop
2000-01-01-00:00*0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0**
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2000-01-01-00:00*0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0**
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2000-01-01-00:00*0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0**
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Record 13/16: Sporadic alternator faults
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2000-01-01-00:00*0-0-0-0-0*000.0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0-0-0-0-0*000.0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0-0-0-0-0*000.0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0-0-0-0-0*000.0**

Record 16/16: Vehicle energy balance
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We'll see what gets populated as she drives.
 
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Ahh YP's "in future" car makes program error, look at Record 9 :cool:
The only place where there is an date.
 
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17.2.4 now with 4M/8W MLBEvo support:
http://download.ross-tech.com/VCDS/download/tmp/VCDS-x86.zip
http://download.ross-tech.com/VCDS/download/tmp/VCDS-x64.zip

Code:
;Friday,24,February,2017,15:51:59:18206
;                Address 19: CAN Gateway
;Control Module Part Number: 8W8 907 468 
;  Component and/or Version: Gateway       H11 2079
;           Software Coding: 0301000100000F402900000000590010DC100007000000000175070E00000000
;            Work Shop Code: WSC 02391
;                      VCID: 094C974939BD33AF615-805C
;
;History Data

Record 1/16: No-load voltage underranging
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000*2000-01-01-00:00*00.0*00**
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Record 2/16: No-load current overranging 
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Record 3/16: Shut-off stage history
202*2016-09-09-16:53*3*0*0*019*000*0000*0*01.9*00.0**
202*2016-09-09-16:48*2*0*1*020*000*0210*0*01.8*00.0**
202*2016-09-09-16:44*1*0*0*024*006*0010*0*01.8*00.0**
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137*2016-04-18-13:55*T*0*0*076*053*0010*0*00.0*00.0**
136*2016-04-18-12:10*T*0*0*069*047*0010*0*00.0*00.0**
135*2016-04-18-11:29*T*0*0*071*049*0000*0*00.0*00.0**

Record 4/16: Battery change history
003*2015-10-06-00:00*01*075*01*JCB*46020661XP*10006*01051*000.0*000.0*000.0**
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Record 5/16: Energy-critical vehicle states
202*2016-09-09-16:45*1*003979*0000*10.9*000*06*-05.0*00680*10000*0210*0107003D*000*01.8*00.0*0001.8**
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Record 6/16: Energy balances (last 15 trips)
155*2017-02-24-13:55*049*+18*+000.5*0000*00*00.06**
154*2017-02-24-13:03*049*+17*+000.6*0000*00*00.06**
153*2017-02-24-12:43*049*+17*+000.6*0000*00*00.18**
152*2017-02-23-21:30*053*+19*+000.9*0000*00*00.16**
151*2017-02-23-15:19*050*+15*+000.6*0000*00*00.08**
150*2017-02-23-15:05*047*+15*+000.4*0000*00*00.06**
149*2017-02-23-13:15*047*+14*+000.7*0000*00*00.15**
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141*2017-02-21-11:50*047*+12*+000.6*0000*00*00.15**

Record 7/16: Energy balances (last 15 standing times)
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149*2017-02-23-13:24*045*-000.4*00.0*00.0*0001.6**
148*2017-02-22-21:09*044*-000.8*00.0*00.0*0016.1**
147*2017-02-22-20:57*044*-000.2*00.0*00.0*0000.0**
146*2017-02-22-12:35*046*-000.6*00.0*00.0*0008.3**
145*2017-02-21-20:48*048*-000.8*00.0*00.0*0015.6**
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142*2017-02-21-13:51*048*-000.3*00.0*00.0*0000.2**
141*2017-02-21-12:00*045*-000.4*00.0*00.0*0001.5**
140*2017-02-20-21:22*045*-000.7*00.0*00.0*0014.4**

Record 8/16
156*2017-02-24-15:00*1*64*00*00*01*00*00*00*00*00**
156*2017-02-24-14:01*1*63*00*00*01*00*00*00*00*00**
211*2016-09-22-14:37*1*62*00*00*01*00*00*00*00*00**
209*2016-09-13-16:24*1*61*00*00*01*00*00*00*00*00**
209*2016-09-13-16:06*1*60*00*00*01*00*00*00*00*00**
209*2016-09-13-15:17*1*59*00*00*01*00*00*00*00*00**

Record 9/16
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255*2017-01-24-13:00*083*087*076*036*00982*03.8*+03*08.7*03.1*00011*00084**
255*2016-12-23-19:58*082*086*078*039*00917*03.4*+07*08.7*03.1*00010*00075**
255*2016-11-21-12:16*081*090*085*046*00851*03.4*+12*09.2*03.0*00009*00068**
255*2016-10-20-15:48*088*094*083*053*00778*03.0*+23*09.6*02.8*00004*00040**
255*2016-09-18-17:05*090*095*077*050*00709*03.2*+24*09.9*02.7*00002*00020**
255*2016-08-12-20:24*091*096*079*053*00610*03.2*+33*09.8*02.6*00002*00017**
255*2016-07-09-18:30*095*098*083*058*00495*03.0*+24*09.8*02.6*00001*00015**
255*2016-06-03-11:30*097*099*086*062*00360*03.0*+26*09.8*02.6*00001*00014**
255*2016-04-27-02:32*100*100*085*062*00171*02.8*+20*09.7*02.7*00000*00003**
255*2016-03-21-13:50*100*100*070*041*00067*03.6*+01*09.1*02.7*00000*00000**

Record 10/16: Dynamic energy management
183*2016-12-15-20:49*81*00005*00000*00000*00000*00000*00000*00000*00005**
183*2016-12-15-20:48*81**
183*2016-12-15-20:48*81**
183*2016-12-15-20:47*81**
183*2016-12-15-20:47*81**
000*2000-01-01-00:00*00**
000*2000-01-01-00:00*00*00000*00000*00000*00000*00000*00000*00000*00000**
000*2000-01-01-00:00*00**
000*2000-01-01-00:00*00**
000*2000-01-01-00:00*00**
000*2000-01-01-00:00*00**
000*2000-01-01-00:00*00**
146*2017-02-22-12:26*2*083*047*+13*03*30*-28*10.7*6*00000*00015*00000**
127*2017-02-15-20:51*2*089*049*+09*03*30*-28*11.5*6**
030*2017-01-18-11:44*2*079*041*+10*03*30*-28*10.6*6**
014*2017-01-12-13:04*2*087*048*+11*03*30*-28*10.7*6**
082*2016-11-09-13:39*2*086*049*+16*03*30*-28*10.9*6**

Record 11/16
125*2017-02-15-13:28*000*000*000*000*0031*005*00.1*00.2*093*053*093*053*01*00115*00159*00248*00201*00001**
124*2017-02-15-13:00*000*000*000*000*0000*055*00.0*00.3*095*054*096*055*01**
108*2017-02-11-14:35*000*000*000*000*0244*114*00.4*01.1*097*053*098*055*01**
134*2016-11-25-15:14*000*000*000*000*0257*057*00.5*01.2*092*051*093*053*01**
131*2016-11-25-11:28*000*000*000*000*0257*062*00.6*01.1*092*050*092*052*01**
129*2016-11-24-18:07*000*000*000*000*0065*037*00.1*00.3*094*051*096*053*01**

Record 12/16: Start-Stop
136*2017-02-20-12:43*0003*81*00*0000*00*00*0000*00*00**
107*2017-02-11-13:27*0003*80*00*0000*00*00*0000*00*00**
098*2017-02-09-17:17*0003*79*00*0000*00*00*0000*00*00**
087*2017-02-06-13:41*0003*78*00*0000*00*00*0000*00*00**
069*2017-01-31-13:21*0003*77*00*0000*00*00*0000*00*00**

Record 13/16: Sporadic alternator faults
155*2017-02-24-13:55*2*00.00*000*255*000*000*000*000*025**
154*2017-02-24-13:03*2*00.00*000*255*000*000*000*000*025**
153*2017-02-24-12:43*2*00.00*000*255*000*000*000*000*025**
152*2017-02-23-21:30*2*00.00*000*255*000*000*000*000*025**
151*2017-02-23-15:19*2*00.00*000*255*000*000*000*000*025**

Record 14/16: Small battery for hybrid vehicle
000*2000-01-01-00:00*0*00.00*000*000*000*000*000*000*000**
000*2000-01-01-00:00*0*00.00*000*000*000*000*000*000*000**
000*2000-01-01-00:00*0*00.00*000*000*000*000*000*000*000**
000*2000-01-01-00:00*0*00.00*000*000*000*000*000*000*000**
000*2000-01-01-00:00*0*00.00*000*000*000*000*000*000*000**

Record 15/16: Local activ.
000*2000-01-01-00:00*0*000*00.00*000*000*000**
000*2000-01-01-00:00*0*000*00.00*000*000*000**
000*2000-01-01-00:00*0*000*00.00*000*000*000**
000*2000-01-01-00:00*0*000*00.00*000*000*000**
000*2000-01-01-00:00*0*000*00.00*000*000*000**

Record 16/16: Vehicle energy balance
000*2000-01-01-00:00*000*000*000*00.00*000*000*000**
000*2000-01-01-00:00*000*000*000*00.00*000*000*000**
000*2000-01-01-00:00*000*000*000*00.00*000*000*000**
000*2000-01-01-00:00*000*000*000*00.00*000*000*000**
000*2000-01-01-00:00*000*000*000*00.00*000*000*000**
 
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Here's Mine:

Code:
Sunday,26,February,2017,14:44:51:56581
VCDS Version: Beta 17.2.4
                Address 61: Battery Regul.
Control Module Part Number: 4E0 910 181 C
  Component and/or Version: J0644 BEM       H12 0550
           Software Coding: 
            Work Shop Code: WSC 00976
                      VCID: 200C2014F31EE6407B-8075
           Additional Info: 4E0915105A  von VA0  320514E2MT        
           Additional Info: Geraet 67917

History Data

Record 1/18: No-load voltage underranging
2017-02-25,09:00:00*0026*004**
2017-02-23,18:00:00*0011*004**
2017-02-18,17:00:00*0017*004**
2017-02-17,20:00:00*0015*004*03374***
2017-01-23,15:00:00*0020*004**
2017-01-23,11:00:00*0003*004**
2017-01-18,15:00:00*0108*004**
2016-12-03,05:00:00*0007*004*01925***
2000-01-01,00:00:00*0000*000**
2000-01-01,00:00:00*0000*000**
2000-01-01,00:00:00*0000*000**
2000-01-01,00:00:00*0000*000*00000***

Record 2/18: No-load current overranging 
2017-02-23,11:22:09*0001*00.04*004**
2017-02-21,20:45:17*0000*02.72*004**
2017-02-21,10:07:10*0000*02.61*004**
2017-02-20,21:18:49*0000*02.62*004**
2017-02-20,19:36:50*0000*02.56*004**
2017-02-18,16:33:33*0000*02.66*004**
2017-02-18,12:36:10*0000*02.63*004**
2017-02-18,05:26:23*0000*00.05*004**
2017-02-16,19:21:02*0000*02.63*004**
2017-02-16,06:53:13*0000*00.05*004*00514***

Record 3/18: Energy-critical vehicle states
00.15*00.73*-09.97*38*04*+1686*-00056*156624*2017-02-03,13:52:39*0-0-0-0-0-0*00.0*00.9*022.1*44*05*71*004**

Record 4/18: Shut-off stage history
2*0*-00.04*55*2017-02-03,21:11:47*0-0-0-0-0-0*00.3**
1*2*-08.36*55*2017-02-03,20:13:20*0-0-0-0-0-0*00.3**
1*2*-09.15*56*2017-02-03,20:05:08*0-0-0-0-0-0*00.3**
2*2*-20.28*56*2017-02-03,19:51:18*0-0-0-0-0-0*00.3**
1*2*-08.22*56*2017-02-03,19:42:09*0-0-0-0-0-0*00.3**
1*2*-23.10*56*2017-02-03,19:27:08*0-0-0-0-0-0*00.3**
6*2*-01.30*57*2017-02-03,17:54:50*0-0-0-0-0-0*00.3**
3*2*-09.29*57*2017-02-03,17:54:40*0-0-0-0-0-0*00.3**
5*2*-09.24*57*2017-02-03,17:54:30*0-0-0-0-0-0*00.3**
2*2*-08.60*57*2017-02-03,17:54:20*0-0-0-0-0-0*00.3**
1*2*-09.86*57*2017-02-03,17:51:09*0-0-0-0-0-0*00.3**
1*2*-24.15*67*2017-02-03,17:47:37*0-0-0-0-0-0*00.3**
2*0*-09.08*84*2017-02-03,16:28:32*0-0-0-0-0-0*00.0**
1*0*-07.08*38*2017-02-03,16:16:36*0-0-0-0-0-0*00.0**
6*2*-01.16*38*2017-02-03,13:52:58*0-0-0-0-0-0*00.0**

Record 5/18: Battery change history
003*320514E1MT*2016-05-07,00:00:00*-00004*-7559**
002*2804070466*2012-10-17,00:00:00*+00001*-8658**
001*----------*2006-12-19,00:00:00*-00001*-0001**

Record 6/18: Energy balances (last 5 trips)
+000.4*000.1**
+001.4*000.6**
+001.4*000.6**
+002.6*001.0**
+002.6*001.0**

Record 7/18: Energy balances (last 5 standing times)
-002.6*041.6**
-001.4*002.4**
-000.6*000.1**
-001.4*005.5**
-001.7*013.5**

Record 8/18
-001.3*004**

Record 9/18
0000.6*0000.0

Record 10/18: Dynamic energy management
00.0*00.0

Record 11/18
0000.00*0000.00*0000.00*0000.00

Record 12/18: Start-Stop
00.00*00.00*00.00*00.00

Record 13/18: Sporadic alternator faults
0000.0*0000.8

Record 14/18: Small battery for hybrid vehicle
00.0*00.0

Record 15/18: Local activ.
99*99*99*19*99

Record 16/18: Vehicle energy balance
00*99*01*00*00

Record 18/18: Date reprogramming in instrument cluster
15**
2012-01-23,17:00:00*2011-01-23,17:00:00**
2012-01-21,19:00:00*2012-01-21,00:00:00**
2007-02-06,12:00:00*2008-06-09,12:00:00**
2007-02-06,12:00:00*2008-06-09,12:00:00**
2000-01-01,00:00:00*2006-12-19,00:00:00**
 
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Eric

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Have you put the log file (Hist-19-xxx.txt) in Niels' analyser? I wouldn't be too happy about those 2+ amps current records if it were my car, even though they seem to stop fairly quickly since the Ah count for them is zero. You also were under 12.2V a few times last month.
 
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Thanks Eric. No, I've not plugged the info into the analyser yet.

I'm not surprised the car's voltage dipped in the last month, she was away for some bodywork, so was barely started for three weeks. I've only started driving the car daily for the last week but usually, the car just sits on the driveway.

I have to confess, the results look like gobbledygook to me. Do the overranging logs indicate there's too much current in the system? if so, I have to say, it makes a nice change from having too little! :D
 
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I have to confess, the results look like gobbledygook to me.

That's the point Tony; you're meant to go to your trusty VAG dealer who tells you you have a battery problem. ;) That's what Niel's tool is for; it shows you in english what each line means ...

Do the overranging logs indicate there's too much current in the system? if so, I have to say, it makes a nice change from having too little! :D

Joking aside; that's exactly the opposite. These fields show the [over]current draw while you car ignition is off and therefore draining the battery :eek:

Julian
 
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In other news, just noticed a coding bit in YP's NMS to make her 61 store history data! Here's the first read after recoding:
We'll see what gets populated as she drives.

Well, there is "some" data:
Code:
Monday,27,February,2017,09:04:14:18206
VCDS Version: Beta 17.2.4 (x64)
                Address 61: Battery Regul.
Control Module Part Number: 7N0 907 534 
  Component and/or Version: Batt.regelung H55 1663
           Software Coding: E1240859
            Work Shop Code: WSC 09003
                      VCID: 71BCDFA931AD6B6FC95-8024

History Data

Record 1/16: No-load voltage underranging
2000-01-01-00:00*00.0*00*00000***
2000-01-01-00:00*00.0*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*00.0*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*00.0*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*00.0*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*00.0*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*00.0*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*00.0*00*00000***
2000-01-01-00:00*00.0*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*00.0*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*00.0*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*00.0*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*00.0*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*00.0*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*00.0*00*00000***
2000-01-01-00:00*00.0*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*00.0*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*00.0*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*00.0*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*00.0*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*00.0*00**

Record 2/16: No-load current overranging 
2000-01-01-00:00*0000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*00*00000**
2000-01-01-00:00*0000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*0000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*0000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*0000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*0000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*0000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*0000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*0000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*0000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*00**

Record 3/16: Shut-off stage history
2000-01-01-00:00*0*0*000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*0*00.0*00.0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0*0*000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*0*00.0*00.0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0*0*000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*0*00.0*00.0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0*0*000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*0*00.0*00.0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0*0*000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*0*00.0*00.0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0*0*000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*0*00.0*00.0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0*0*000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*0*00.0*00.0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0*0*000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*0*00.0*00.0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0*0*000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*0*00.0*00.0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0*0*000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*0*00.0*00.0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0*0*000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*0*00.0*00.0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0*0*000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*0*00.0*00.0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0*0*000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*0*00.0*00.0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0*0*000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*0*00.0*00.0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0*0*000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*0*00.0*00.0**

Record 4/16: Battery change history
2000-01-01-00:00*00*-----------*---*----------*00000*00000*0000*0000*0000**
2000-01-01-00:00*00*-----------*---*----------*00000*00000*0000*0000*0000**
2000-01-01-00:00*00*-----------*---*----------*00000*00000*0000*0000*0000**
2000-01-01-00:00*00*-----------*---*----------*00000*00000*0000*0000*0000**
2000-01-01-00:00*00*-----------*---*----------*00000*00000*0000*0000*0000**

Record 5/16: Energy-critical vehicle states
2000-01-01-00:00*+00.00*+00.00*+00.00*00.00*000*00*+00.0*00000*00000*000000*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*00.0*00.0*000.0*00*00*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*+00.00*+00.00*+00.00*00.00*000*00*+00.0*00000*00000*000000*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*00.0*00.0*000.0*00*00*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*+00.00*+00.00*+00.00*00.00*000*00*+00.0*00000*00000*000000*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*00.0*00.0*000.0*00*00*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*+00.00*+00.00*+00.00*00.00*000*00*+00.0*00000*00000*000000*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*00.0*00.0*000.0*00*00*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*+00.00*+00.00*+00.00*00.00*000*00*+00.0*00000*00000*000000*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*00.0*00.0*000.0*00*00*00**

Record 6/16: Energy balances (last 10 trips)
2014-14-21-20:35*100*-40*+000.0*00.10**
2014-14-20-22:55*100*-40*+000.0*00.09**
2014-14-20-22:43*100*-40*+000.0*00.04**
2014-14-20-22:21*100*-40*+000.0*00.02**
2014-14-20-22:01*100*-40*+000.0*00.09**
2014-14-20-07:26*100*-40*+000.0*00.09**
2014-14-20-06:13*100*-40*+000.0*00.11**
2014-14-20-04:22*100*-40*+000.0*00.14**
2014-14-20-02:57*100*-40*+000.0*00.14**
2014-14-20-01:09*100*-40*+000.0*00.00**

Record 7/16: Energy balances (last 10 standing times)
2000-14-00-00:00*100*+000.0*001.9*01.9*01.9**
2000-01-01-00:00*000*+000.0*000.0*00.0*00.0**
2000-01-01-00:00*000*+000.0*000.0*00.0*00.0**
2000-01-01-00:00*000*+000.0*000.0*00.0*00.0**
2000-01-01-00:00*000*+000.0*000.0*00.0*00.0**
2000-01-01-00:00*000*+000.0*000.0*00.0*00.0**
2000-01-01-00:00*000*+000.0*000.0*00.0*00.0**
2000-01-01-00:00*000*+000.0*000.0*00.0*00.0**
2000-01-01-00:00*000*+000.0*000.0*00.0*00.0**
2000-01-01-00:00*000*+000.0*000.0*00.0*00.0**

Record 8/16
2000-01-01-00:00*0*00*00*00*00*2000-01-01-00:00*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*0*00*00*00*00*2000-01-01-00:00*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*0*00*00*00*00*2000-01-01-00:00*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*0*00*00*00*00*2000-01-01-00:00*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*0*00*00*00*00*2000-01-01-00:00*00**

Record 9/16
2014-14-18-21:42*100*100*000*100*00000*10.60*-40*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*000*000*000*000*00000*00.00*+00*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*000*000*000*000*00000*00.00*+00*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*000*000*000*000*00000*00.00*+00*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*000*000*000*000*00000*00.00*+00*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*000*000*000*000*00000*00.00*+00*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*000*000*000*000*00000*00.00*+00*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*000*000*000*000*00000*00.00*+00*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*000*000*000*000*00000*00.00*+00*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*000*000*000*000*00000*00.00*+00*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*000*000*000*000*00000*00.00*+00*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*000*000*000*000*00000*00.00*+00*00**

Record 10/16: Dynamic energy management
2000-01-01-00:00*0*000.0*0*000.0*00.00**
2000-01-01-00:00*0*000.0*0*000.0*00.00**
2000-01-01-00:00*0*000.0*0*000.0*00.00**
2000-01-01-00:00*0*000.0*0*000.0*00.00**
2000-01-01-00:00*0*000.0*0*000.0*00.00**

Record 11/16
2000-01-01-00:00*000*000*000*000*0000*000*00.0*00.0*000*000*000*000*00*00000*00000*00000*00000*00000**
2000-01-01-00:00*000*000*000*000*0000*000*00.0*00.0*000*000*000*000*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*000*000*000*000*0000*000*00.0*00.0*000*000*000*000*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*000*000*000*000*0000*000*00.0*00.0*000*000*000*000*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*000*000*000*000*0000*000*00.0*00.0*000*000*000*000*00**

Record 12/16: Start-Stop
2000-01-01-00:00*0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0**
00000*00000*00000*00000*00000*00000*00000*00000**
2000-01-01-00:00*0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0**
00000*00000*00000*00000*00000*00000*00000*00000**
2000-01-01-00:00*0*000*000*+00*00*+000*+00.00*00.0*0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0*000*000*+00*00*+000*+00.00*00.0*0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0*000*000*+00*00*+000*+00.00*00.0*0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0*000*000*+00*00*+000*+00.00*00.0*0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0*000*000*+00*00*+000*+00.00*00.0*0**
00000*00000*00000**

Record 13/16: Sporadic alternator faults
2000-01-01-00:00*0-0-0-0-0*000.0*00000**
2000-01-01-00:00*0-0-0-0-0*000.0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0-0-0-0-0*000.0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0-0-0-0-0*000.0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0-0-0-0-0*000.0**

Record 16/16: Vehicle energy balance
012180**
00002*00000*00000*00001*00016**
00012*00000*00002*00001**
00078*00001*00000*00000**
00003*00008*00003*00001**
00013*00002*00000**
00000*00000*00000*00000**
00000*00000*00000*00000**
00003*00000*00000**
00001*00000*00000**
00000*00000*00000**
00000*00000*00000*00000*00000*00000*00000*00000*00000*00000**
But definitely not BEM-level quality :)
 
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Now with correct date
Code:
;Monday,27,February,2017,12:58:12:18206
;                Address 61: Battery Regul.
;Control Module Part Number: 7N0 907 534 
;  Component and/or Version: Batt.regelung H55 1663
;           Software Coding: E1240859
;            Work Shop Code: WSC 09003
;                      VCID: 58EA820DB2971A272EB-800C
;
;History Data

Record 1/16: No-load voltage underranging
2000-01-01-00:00*00.0*00*00000***
2000-01-01-00:00*00.0*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*00.0*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*00.0*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*00.0*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*00.0*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*00.0*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*00.0*00*00000***
2000-01-01-00:00*00.0*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*00.0*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*00.0*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*00.0*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*00.0*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*00.0*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*00.0*00*00000***
2000-01-01-00:00*00.0*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*00.0*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*00.0*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*00.0*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*00.0*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*00.0*00**

Record 2/16: No-load current overranging 
2000-01-01-00:00*0000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*00*00000**
2000-01-01-00:00*0000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*0000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*0000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*0000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*0000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*0000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*0000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*0000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*0000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*00**

Record 3/16: Shut-off stage history
2000-01-01-00:00*0*0*000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*0*00.0*00.0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0*0*000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*0*00.0*00.0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0*0*000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*0*00.0*00.0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0*0*000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*0*00.0*00.0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0*0*000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*0*00.0*00.0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0*0*000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*0*00.0*00.0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0*0*000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*0*00.0*00.0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0*0*000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*0*00.0*00.0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0*0*000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*0*00.0*00.0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0*0*000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*0*00.0*00.0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0*0*000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*0*00.0*00.0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0*0*000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*0*00.0*00.0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0*0*000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*0*00.0*00.0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0*0*000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*0*00.0*00.0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0*0*000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*0*00.0*00.0**

Record 4/16: Battery change history
2000-01-01-00:00*00*-----------*---*----------*00000*00000*0000*0000*0000**
2000-01-01-00:00*00*-----------*---*----------*00000*00000*0000*0000*0000**
2000-01-01-00:00*00*-----------*---*----------*00000*00000*0000*0000*0000**
2000-01-01-00:00*00*-----------*---*----------*00000*00000*0000*0000*0000**
2000-01-01-00:00*00*-----------*---*----------*00000*00000*0000*0000*0000**

Record 5/16: Energy-critical vehicle states
2000-01-01-00:00*+00.00*+00.00*+00.00*00.00*000*00*+00.0*00000*00000*000000*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*00.0*00.0*000.0*00*00*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*+00.00*+00.00*+00.00*00.00*000*00*+00.0*00000*00000*000000*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*00.0*00.0*000.0*00*00*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*+00.00*+00.00*+00.00*00.00*000*00*+00.0*00000*00000*000000*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*00.0*00.0*000.0*00*00*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*+00.00*+00.00*+00.00*00.00*000*00*+00.0*00000*00000*000000*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*00.0*00.0*000.0*00*00*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*+00.00*+00.00*+00.00*00.00*000*00*+00.0*00000*00000*000000*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*00.0*00.0*000.0*00*00*00**

Record 6/16: Energy balances (last 10 trips)
2017.02.26-23:07*100*-40*+000.0*00.17**
2017.02.26-22:19*100*-40*+000.0*00.14**
2017.02.26-20:35*100*-40*+000.0*00.10**
2017.02.25-22:55*100*-40*+000.0*00.09**
2017.02.25-22:43*100*-40*+000.0*00.04**
2017.02.25-22:21*100*-40*+000.0*00.02**
2017.02.25-22:01*100*-40*+000.0*00.09**
2017.02.25-07:26*100*-40*+000.0*00.09**
2017.02.25-06:13*100*-40*+000.0*00.11**
2017.02.25-04:22*100*-40*+000.0*00.14**

Record 7/16: Energy balances (last 10 standing times)
2017.02.26-21:00*100*+000.0*000.2*00.2*00.2**
2015.11.15-00:00*100*+000.0*001.9*01.9*01.9**
2000-01-01-00:00*000*+000.0*000.0*00.0*00.0**
2000-01-01-00:00*000*+000.0*000.0*00.0*00.0**
2000-01-01-00:00*000*+000.0*000.0*00.0*00.0**
2000-01-01-00:00*000*+000.0*000.0*00.0*00.0**
2000-01-01-00:00*000*+000.0*000.0*00.0*00.0**
2000-01-01-00:00*000*+000.0*000.0*00.0*00.0**
2000-01-01-00:00*000*+000.0*000.0*00.0*00.0**
2000-01-01-00:00*000*+000.0*000.0*00.0*00.0**

Record 8/16
2000-01-01-00:00*0*00*00*00*00*2000-01-01-00:00*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*0*00*00*00*00*2000-01-01-00:00*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*0*00*00*00*00*2000-01-01-00:00*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*0*00*00*00*00*2000-01-01-00:00*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*0*00*00*00*00*2000-01-01-00:00*00**

Record 9/16
2017.02.23-21:42*100*100*000*100*00000*10.60*-40*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*000*000*000*000*00000*00.00*+00*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*000*000*000*000*00000*00.00*+00*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*000*000*000*000*00000*00.00*+00*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*000*000*000*000*00000*00.00*+00*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*000*000*000*000*00000*00.00*+00*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*000*000*000*000*00000*00.00*+00*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*000*000*000*000*00000*00.00*+00*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*000*000*000*000*00000*00.00*+00*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*000*000*000*000*00000*00.00*+00*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*000*000*000*000*00000*00.00*+00*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*000*000*000*000*00000*00.00*+00*00**

Record 10/16: Dynamic energy management
2000-01-01-00:00*0*000.0*0*000.0*00.00**
2000-01-01-00:00*0*000.0*0*000.0*00.00**
2000-01-01-00:00*0*000.0*0*000.0*00.00**
2000-01-01-00:00*0*000.0*0*000.0*00.00**
2000-01-01-00:00*0*000.0*0*000.0*00.00**

Record 11/16
2000-01-01-00:00*000*000*000*000*0000*000*00.0*00.0*000*000*000*000*00*00000*00000*00000*00000*00000**
2000-01-01-00:00*000*000*000*000*0000*000*00.0*00.0*000*000*000*000*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*000*000*000*000*0000*000*00.0*00.0*000*000*000*000*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*000*000*000*000*0000*000*00.0*00.0*000*000*000*000*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*000*000*000*000*0000*000*00.0*00.0*000*000*000*000*00**

Record 12/16: Start-Stop
2000-01-01-00:00*0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0**
00000*00000*00000*00000*00000*00000*00000*00000**
2000-01-01-00:00*0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0**
00000*00000*00000*00000*00000*00000*00000*00000**
2000-01-01-00:00*0*000*000*+00*00*+000*+00.00*00.0*0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0*000*000*+00*00*+000*+00.00*00.0*0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0*000*000*+00*00*+000*+00.00*00.0*0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0*000*000*+00*00*+000*+00.00*00.0*0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0*000*000*+00*00*+000*+00.00*00.0*0**
00000*00000*00000**

Record 13/16: Sporadic alternator faults
2000-01-01-00:00*0-0-0-0-0*000.0*00000**
2000-01-01-00:00*0-0-0-0-0*000.0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0-0-0-0-0*000.0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0-0-0-0-0*000.0**
2000-01-01-00:00*0-0-0-0-0*000.0**

Record 16/16: Vehicle energy balance
012188**
00002*00000*00000*00001*00019**
00014*00000*00003*00001**
00089*00001*00000*00000**
00003*00010*00003*00001**
00014*00003*00000**
00000*00000*00000*00000**
00000*00000*00000*00000**
00003*00000*00000**
00001*00000*00000**
00000*00000*00000**
00000*00000*00000*00000*00000*00000*00000*00000*00000*00000**
 
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Hi I just tried your program and firstly let me say thanks for the efforts, never knew about it till now, ill be using it all the time now.

I do wonder though if my battery manager is showing data in a different format as the figures seem weird like no state of charge and a few other things.

Could you run my history through it and see if anything jumps out at you?

Code:
;Friday,17,February,2017,12:30:24:29760
;                Address 61: Battery Regul.
;Control Module Part Number: 4E0 910 181 C
;  Component and/or Version: J0644 BEM       H12 0550
;           Software Coding: 
;            Work Shop Code: WSC 00000
;                      VCID: 204F0F99F3B7A34067-FFFE
;           Additional Info: 4E0915105A  von VA0  1121910409        
;           Additional Info: Geraet 00289
;
;History Data

Record 1/18: No-load voltage underranging
2017-02-16,21:00:00*0010*004**
2017-02-16,13:00:00*0005*004**
2017-02-16,00:00:00*0006*004**
2017-02-15,19:00:00*0002*004*02224***
2017-02-09,19:00:00*0012*004**
2017-02-09,13:00:00*0003*004**
2017-02-08,13:00:00*0017*004**
2017-02-08,02:00:00*0005*004*01079***
2000-01-01,00:00:00*0000*000**
2000-01-01,00:00:00*0000*000**
2000-01-01,00:00:00*0000*000**
2000-01-01,00:00:00*0000*000*00000***

Record 2/18: No-load current overranging 
2017-02-13,15:01:33*0000*02.68*004**
2017-02-12,15:23:18*0000*02.61*004**
2017-02-11,10:37:56*0000*00.21*004**
2017-02-10,07:22:21*0000*02.53*004**
2017-02-09,17:53:18*0000*02.81*004**
2017-02-03,18:35:07*0000*02.69*004**
2017-02-02,18:29:31*0000*02.73*004**
2017-01-30,15:16:07*0000*02.59*004**
2017-01-28,17:17:30*0000*02.68*004**
2017-01-26,14:16:00*0000*02.67*004*00117***

Record 3/18: Energy-critical vehicle states
00.00*00.27*-10.44*00*99*+0926*+00000*122382*2017-02-10,00:43:56*0-0-0-0-0-0*00.0*00.3*019.8*11*04*15*004**

Record 4/18: Shut-off stage history
6*5*-00.21*04*2017-02-10,17:10:40*0-0-0-0-0-0*00.0**
3*5*-11.40*04*2017-02-10,17:10:30*0-0-0-0-0-0*00.0**
5*5*-11.36*04*2017-02-10,17:10:20*0-0-0-0-0-0*00.0**
2*5*-09.75*04*2017-02-10,17:10:10*0-0-0-0-0-0*00.0**
1*5*-09.73*05*2017-02-10,17:07:00*0-0-0-0-0-0*00.0**
1*5*-39.29*04*2017-02-10,07:37:33*0-0-1-1-0-0*00.0**
6*7*+08.17*00*2017-02-10,00:44:05*0-0-0-0-0-0*00.0**
3*7*-10.80*00*2017-02-10,00:43:55*0-0-0-0-0-0*00.0**
5*7*-11.16*00*2017-02-10,00:43:45*0-0-0-0-0-
1*7*-11.59*00*2017-02-10,00:12:39*0-0-0-0-0-0*00.0**
6*7*-20.84*00*2017-02-10,00:08:48*0-0-0-0-0-0*00.0**
3*7*-09.98*00*2017-02-10,00:08:38*0-0-0-0-0-0*00.0**
5*7*-09.99*00*2017-02-10,00:08:28*0-0-0-0-0-0*00.0**

Record 5/18: Battery change history
003*1121910408*2016-09-20,00:00:00*+00003*-7838**
002*2609260601*2013-12-22,00:00:00*-00015*-9939**
001*----------*2006-02-27,00:00:00*+00008*-0035**

Record 6/18: Energy balances (last 5 trips)
+002.2*000.3**
+002.2*000.3**
+001.2*000.1**
+001.0*000.1**
+000.7*000.0**

Record 7/18: Energy balances (last 5 standing times)
-001.4*000.3**
-001.2*001.8**
-001.4*012.3**
-002.0*007.4**
-001.1*002.1**

Record 8/18
-001.3*004**

Record 9/18
0000.0*0000.0

Record 10/18: Dynamic energy management
00.0*00.0

Record 11/18
0000.00*0000.00*0000.00*0000.00

Record 12/18: Start-Stop
00.00*00.00*00.00*00.00

Record 13/18: Sporadic alternator faults
0000.0*0000.0

Record 14/18: Small battery for hybrid vehicle
00.0*00.0

Record 15/18: Local activ.
99*99*99*01*99

Record 16/18: Vehicle energy balance
00*00*00*00*00

Record 18/18: Date reprogramming in instrument cluster
15**
2010-11-01,21:00:00*2010-11-01,09:00:00**
2010-11-01,09:00:00*2010-11-01,20:00:00**
2006-05-14,15:00:00*2006-12-28,15:00:00**
2006-05-14,15:00:00*2006-12-28,15:00:00**
2000-01-01,00:00:00*2006-02-27,00:00:00**
 
   #72  

Eric

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The data is in line with other modules having the same part number and firmware (IE most D3 A8s).
What jumps out is the last energy critical state on 2/10. The battery was almost empty, were you able to start the car that day? :)
I see 11 CAN bus cycles, not sure if that's normal or not. But no lights were left on. Ignition was switched on 4 times?
You can see all this if you put your Hist-61-4E0-910-181-C-xxx.txt into Niels' tool.
 
   #73  

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Hello Niels,

Eric's quite consistent in his naming convention for files & logs produced by VCDS, so would you add a Filter Property to your Open File Dialog control, something like ...Filter ="VCDS Batt History Files|Hist-*.txt|All Files|*.*" so it will filter just battery history files please?
 
   #74  

NEtech

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I will test it.
Right now it shows only files with "*.txt"
 
   #75  

delboy

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The data is in line with other modules having the same part number and firmware (IE most D3 A8s).
What jumps out is the last energy critical state on 2/10. The battery was almost empty, were you able to start the car that day? :)
I see 11 CAN bus cycles, not sure if that's normal or not. But no lights were left on. Ignition was switched on 4 times?
You can see all this if you put your Hist-61-4E0-910-181-C-xxx.txt into Niels' tool.



That will be the day the car wouldn't start for the wife, she charged it then its kinda behaved since. Both rear door handles were fubar and I suspect were keeping the car awake. Just changed them today, what a nightmare of a job that was. the factory repair info was as much use as a chocolate fire guard. Never again.

As to the usefulness of battery manager history I cant make head nor tail of what the numbers or descriptions mean. I'll stick to old way of diagnosing drains.
 
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Code:
;Thursday,02,March,2017,14:12:35:18206
;                Address 19: CAN Gateway
;Control Module Part Number: 5Q0 907 530 AJ
;  Component and/or Version: GW MQB High   128 1243
;           Software Coding: 0101000838085900FB00022A880F00000001050000000000000000000000
;            Work Shop Code: WSC 01357
;                      VCID: 79ACE789695D232F715-802C
;
;History Data

Record 1/16: No-load voltage underranging
-------------:--*--.-*--*-----***
-------------:--*--.-*--**
-------------:--*--.-*--**
-------------:--*--.-*--*-----***
-------------:--*--.-*--**
-------------:--*--.-*--**
-------------:--*--.-*--*-----***
-------------:--*--.-*--**
-------------:--*--.-*--**

Record 2/16: No-load current overranging 
-------------:--*---*---*--.---*-------------*-*--*-----**
-------------:--*---*---*--.---*-------------*-*--**
-------------:--*---*---*--.---*-------------*-*--**
-------------:--*---*---*--.---*-------------*-*--**
-------------:--*---*---*--.---*-------------*-*--**

Record 3/16: Shut-off stage history
2016-01-14-17:36*T*0*100*100*0-0-0-0-0-0-0*_*0*00.0*00.0**
2016-01-13-18:10*T*0*100*100*0-0-0-0-0-0-0*_*0*00.0*00.0**
2016-01-13-18:10*T*0*100*100*0-0-0-0-1-0-0*_*0*00.0*00.0**
2016-01-13-18:09*T*0*100*100*0-0-0-0-1-0-0*_*0*00.0*00.0**
2016-01-13-18:09*T*0*100*100*0-0-0-0-1-0-0*_*0*00.0*00.0**
2016-01-08-19:43*T*0*100*100*0-0-0-0-0-0-0*_*0*00.0*00.0**
2016-01-08-19:43*T*0*100*100*0-0-0-0-0-0-0*_*0*00.0*00.0**
2016-01-07-23:40*T*0*100*100*0-0-0-0-1-0-0*_*0*00.0*00.0**
2015-12-15-12:27*T*0*100*100*0-0-0-0-0-0-0*_*0*00.0*00.0**
2015-12-14-20:40*T*0*100*100*0-0-0-0-1-0-0*_*0*00.0*00.0**

Record 4/16: Battery change history
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Record 5/16: Energy-critical vehicle states
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Record 6/16: Energy balances (last 10 trips)
2016-11-22-16:22*100*-40*+000.0*00.10*0.00*000**
2016-11-22-13:15*100*-40*+000.0*00.10*0.00*000**
2016-10-22-08:53*100*-40*+000.0*00.10*0.00*000**
2016-10-21-17:34*100*-40*+000.0*00.10*0.00*000**
2016-10-15-14:06*100*-40*+000.0*00.10*0.00*000**
2016-10-10-15:43*100*-40*+000.0*00.60*0.00*000**
2016-10-10-14:45*100*-40*+000.0*00.20*0.00*000**
2016-08-24-09:54*100*-40*+000.0*00.10*0.00*000**
2016-08-23-13:22*100*-40*+000.0*00.10*0.00*000**
2016-08-21-19:51*100*-40*+000.0*00.30*0.00*000**

Record 7/16: Energy balances (last 10 standing times)
2016-10-19-10:53*100*+000.0*011.5*11.5*11.4**
2016-09-25-13:03*100*+000.0*003.1*03.1*03.1**
2016-09-03-21:23*100*+000.0*007.1*07.1*07.1**
2016-08-30-12:56*100*+000.0*041.6*41.7*41.7**
2016-08-27-21:15*100*+000.0*010.3*10.3*10.3**
2016-03-25-15:44*100*+000.0*002.6*02.8*02.7**
2016-02-14-16:13*100*+000.0*005.2*05.3*04.0**
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Record 8/16
2017-03-03-15:02*4*00*00*00*39*2017-01-16-15:38*01**
2016-11-22-22:21*4*00*00*00*38*2016-11-22-16:31*01**
2016-11-22-13:16*4*00*00*00*37*2016-10-22-22:56*01**

Record 9/16
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Record 10/16: Dynamic energy management
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Record 11/16
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Record 12/16: Start-Stop
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Record 13/16: Sporadic alternator faults
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Record 16/16: Vehicle energy balance
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   #78  

delboy

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Is there an issue when retrieving history data from manager and you fill in the form thats presented for vin number etc.

It seems like if you change anything in the form that the file it saves is laid out differently and cant be read by the VCDS toolbox.
 
   #79  

NEtech

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Is it a question about VCDSToolbox, then I don't understand it.
Is there an issue when retrieving history data from manager
What manager ?

It seems like if you change anything in the form that the file it saves is laid out differently and cant be read by the VCDS toolbox.
What form ?
 
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Eric

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I think he means this form when you save an autoscan or hit the Save button in the history data dialog:
6IhNZpE.png


delboy, it's much easier to go to your Logs folder and use the file called "Hist-19-8R0-907-468-P-20170303-1419.txt" (in my case), which is autogenerated as soon as the history read finishes. The Save function is more intended to append it to an autoscan for archiving purposes.
 
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