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    If you don't get any responses on this forum for recoding; you could try a Google search with "Chassis Type: XX" "PPP PPP PPP" where 'XX' is the chassis type for the CC and PPP is the part number for your panel. You may hit lucky that someone on a distant forum somewhere may have posted a scan with the same set up as you.

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    The Passat CC and Golf 7 have completely different control modules. You will not be able to code the Golf 7 unit to your Passat. That said, your request misses the very basic information even remotely necessary to answer your question...

    - Auto-Scan with the supposedly incorrect module installed
    - Auto-Scan with the new module installed

    ...once those points are cleared up, an answer might be possible. Based on what we have for now, nobody is going to waste time with guessing games.
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    See here for scan details, showing incorrect fitted unit:

    http://forums.ross-tech.com/showthre...1940#post91940

    Regarding control module, the Golf vs CC is identical in style...

    This is the unit in my CC:

    http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/i...otos/dash1.png

    Now my replacement Golf sourced Unit is near identical, only instead of 'Rear' I have 'Setup' and instead of 'Rest' I have my heated screen button.

    Everything else is identical

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    I ended up merging your 2 topics, absolutely no reason to have this in separate threads. After looking at what you posted, that doesn't answer the question/prerequisites mentioned above.

    Still waiting for...

    - (FULL) Auto-Scan with the supposedly incorrect module installed
    - (FULL) Auto-Scan with the new module installed
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    no it's not possible to re program with vcds, since sharan has a 3 or 5 zone climate control, REST control from front those rear zones and you will always have dtc concerning those rear zones
    get a proper climatronic with heated front windshield button

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    Quote Originally Posted by m87a View Post
    no it's not possible to re program with vcds, since sharan has a 3 or 5 zone climate control, REST control from front those rear zones and you will always have dtc concerning those rear zones
    get a proper climatronic with heated front windshield button

    This is what i have done, I have GOLF unit that I want to re-program, not the Sharan one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebastian View Post

    - (FULL) Auto-Scan with the supposedly incorrect module installed
    - (FULL) Auto-Scan with the new module installed
    Why do you think supposedly? I've confirmed it is, but autoscan in-bound next couple of hours.

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    In way too many cases, we have hunted ghosts with customers because somebody "thought" something was wrong/false/incorrect. In order to allow us to double check, we need said data. You want our help? That's the basic requirement to get any. FWIW, I agree with m87a and based on what I have heard from you so far - you still have an incompatible module and reprogramming isn't gonna fix it. In order to make a definite statement, let's wait for that Auto-Scan.
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    Full Scan:

    Code:
    Thursday,02,February,2017,12:29:39:12146
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86
    VCDS Version: 16.8.4.2
    Data version: 20161129 DS267.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: xxxxx License Plate: xxxx
    Mileage: 128920km-80107mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: 3C (7N0)
    Scan: 01 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 25 2E 37 42 44 46 4C 4F 52 53 55
              56 61 62 72
    
    VIN: WVWZZZ3CZEE503715   Mileage: 128920km-80107miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
    37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    4C-Tire Pressure II -- Status: OK 0000
    4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
    55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
     
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (J623-CFFB)       Labels: 03L-906-018-CFF.clb
       Part No SW: 03L 906 018 PR    HW: 03L 907 309 AE
       Component: R4 2,0L EDC   H28 4006  
       Revision: 41H28---    Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 00190012042501080000
       Shop #: WSC 00015 115 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018PR 003004
       ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018PR.rod
       VCID: 09181DF8A816300A9E-805C
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 3AA-614-109.clb
       Part No SW: 3AA 614 109 AQ    HW: 3AA 614 109 AQ
       Component: J104   C2 450M VD0F 0030  
       Revision: --H07---    Serial number: 00000007094767
       Coding: 0004016
       Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
       VCID: 7CF6742C3FC415A295-8028
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 5K0-907-044.clb
       Part No SW: 7N0 907 044 R    HW: 7N0 907 044 R
       Component: Clima-Sharan  H02 0506  
       Revision: 00001K02    
       Coding: 0710004548
       Shop #: WSC 00020 999 12345
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ClimatronicSharan A01005
       ROD: EV_ClimaAutoSharaBasis.rod
       VCID: 3F8CC320A652CEBAF0-806A
    
       Slave 1: 
    
    4 Faults Found:
    9475605 - Position Sensor for Rear Temperature Flap Motor 
              B1096 15 [009] - Open or Short to Plus
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 34
                        Reset counter: 12
                        Mileage: 124784 km
                        Date: 2016.11.05
                        Time: 14:32:58
    
    9472277 - Temperature Sensor for Rear Vent 
              B1089 15 [009] - Open or Short to Plus
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 194
                        Mileage: 124784 km
                        Date: 2016.11.05
                        Time: 14:32:59
    
    9478929 - Diagnostic Line for Rear Air Blower 
              B10A3 11 [008] - Short to Ground
              Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 254
                        Reset counter: 55
                        Mileage: 124791 km
                        Date: 2016.11.07
                        Time: 07:23:50
    
    9480753 - Control/Display Unit for Rear Climatronic 
              B10AA 31 [009] - No Signal
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 194
                        Mileage: 124784 km
                        Date: 2016.11.05
                        Time: 14:32:58
    
    
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    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 3AA-937-087.clb
       Part No SW: 3AA 937 087 R    HW: 3AA 937 087 R
       Component: BCM PQ47 H++  422 0477  
       Revision: BD422001    
       Coding: 000800000000000000880080940029642355028860220720E484C72000C1
       Shop #: WSC 55621 001 1048576
       VCID: 4998DDF8E096700A5E-801C
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C8 955 119 G    HW: 3C8 955 119 G  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: WWS464 300113  010 0604 
       Serial number: 300113
       Coding: 00B795
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5Q0 955 547     HW: 5Q0 955 547   Labels: 5Q0-955-547.CLB
       Component: RLFS  024 0042 
       Serial number: Y13M05D28H13M27S53S4
       Coding: 0228DD
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels: 3AE-919-475.clb
       Part No SW: 3AE 919 475 C    HW: 7N0 919 475 
       Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H06 0018  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 28231314900774
       Coding: 108004
       Shop #: WSC 99999 1023 2097151
       ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA18VW47X0000 001006
       ROD: EV_EPHVA18VW4280000.rod
       VCID: 3F8CC320A652CEBAF0-806A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 5N0-959-655.lbl
       Part No SW: 5N0 959 655 AA    HW: 5N0 959 655 AA
       Component: J234__70J VW10 HI   2118  
       Revision: 26019000    Serial number: 003L7PAYACKD  
       Coding: 0012362
       Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
       VCID: 7CF6742C3FC415A295-8028
    
       Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MTS644441183 
    
       Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MTS654331173 
    
       Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6351HTS6DULHRBKJ 
    
       Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6361HTS6FDC51CKR 
    
       Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 00000000000000000
    
       Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 00000000000000000
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 3C0-953-569.clb
       Part No SW: 3C5 953 501 BN    HW: 5K0 953 569 AB
       Component: LENKS.MODUL   016 0140  
       Revision: FF010042    Serial number: 20130529300096
       Coding: 0182270000
       Shop #: WSC 00015 115 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS A03004
       ROD: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS.rod
       VCID: 72EA5A14A58053D2CF-8026
    
       Multifunction steering wheel control module: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C8 959 537 D    HW: 3C8 959 537 D  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
       Component: E221__MFL-TK6  H07 0022 
       Coding: E20000
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 3C8-920-xxx-17.clb
       Part No SW: 3C8 920 981 D    HW: 3C8 920 981 D
       Component: KOMBI         H04 0611  
       Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 440F01
       Shop #: WSC 05314 115 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04723
       ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW25.rod
       VCID: 2F6C936076323E3A60-807A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
       Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 AN    HW: 7N0 907 530 AN
       Component: J533  Gateway H56 1642  
       Revision:   H56       Serial number: 220513F1000587
       Coding: 469007
       Shop #: WSC 05314 000 00000
       VCID: 7CF6742CFFC415A295-8028
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 3C0-959-433-25.clb
       Part No SW: 3AA 959 433 B    HW: 3AA 959 433 B
       Component:    IMMO         043 0407  
       Revision: 00043000    Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
       Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
       VCID: 387EA83C4B7CF98231-806C
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3C0 905 861 J
       Component:    ELV          029 0380
       3C0905861J     ELV          029 0380   
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels: 5N0-035-342.lbl
       Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 G    HW: 5N0 035 342 G
       Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H19 0770  
       Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7664785826    
       Coding: 020100
       Shop #: WSC 05314 000 00000
       VCID: 2B5487704A2A421A4C-807E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 37: Navigation (J794)       Labels: 1K0-035-27x-37.clb
       Part No SW: 3C8 035 279 M    HW: 3C8 035 279 M
       Component: RNS315-EU   H73 0407  
       Serial number: VWZAZ2P0436114
       Coding: 0401040104000B0000019002
       Shop #: WSC 62726 001 104857
       ASAM Dataset: EV_RNS315EUV2UDS 001705
       ROD: EV_RNS315EUV2UDS.rod
       VCID: 3560A108946E04EA2A-8060
    
       Data medium: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3AA 919 866 
       Component: EUR_W_V6  0062 
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels: 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
       Part No SW: 3C8 959 701     HW: 3C0 959 793 C
       Component: TUER-SG FT    002 0556  
       Revision: 12110009    Serial number: 0007019648
       Coding: 0202B7
       Shop #: WSC 05311 115 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
       ROD: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X.rod
       VCID: 6DD04968BCBE8C2A12-8038
    
       Slave Driver: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C8 959 704 D    HW: 3C8 959 794   Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
       Component: J389__TSG-HR  004 0501 
       Serial number: 00000003506828      
       Coding: 010090
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
       Part No: 1K0 909 144 R
       Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 207    3501  
       Revision: 00H22000    
       Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
       VCID: 3978AD387076E08ACE-806C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 3C0-959-433-46.clb
       Part No SW: 3AA 959 433 B    HW: 3AA 959 433 B
       Component:    KSG PQ47 ELV 043 0645  
       Revision: 00043000    Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
       Coding: 01910A0001860E76360694157008DFCE105C04
       Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
       VCID: 387EA83C4B7CF98231-806C
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
       Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H05 1501
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 3C0 951 171 C
       Component: Neigungssensor  004 0611
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No: 3C0 951 171 C
       Component: Innenraumueberw.004 0611
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II (J520)       Labels: 1K0-907-532.clb
       Part No SW: 7N0 907 532     HW: 7N0 907 530 AN
       Component: EZE_2         H56 1642  
       Revision:   H56       Serial number: 220513F1000587
       Coding: 00000008
       Shop #: WSC 05314 000 00000
       VCID: 6FEC5360BEB27E3A20-803A
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C8 919 204 A    HW: 3C8 919 204 A
       Component: Analoguhr  005 0004 
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels: 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
       Part No SW: 3C8 959 702     HW: 3C0 959 792 C
       Component: TUER-SG BT    002 0556  
       Revision: 14110009    Serial number: 0007021560
       Coding: 0202B6
       Shop #: WSC 05311 115 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
       ROD: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X.rod
       VCID: 6ED24E64B1B877322B-803A
    
       Slave Passenger: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C8 959 703 D    HW: 3C8 959 795   Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
       Component: J388__TSG-HL  004 0501 
       Serial number: 00000003487610      
       Coding: 010090
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 53: Parking Brake        Labels: 3AA-907-801.clb
       Part No SW: 3AA 907 801 H    HW: 3AA 907 801 H
       Component: J540 EPB4  VW-86594 0010  
       Revision:   H19       Serial number: 00000001082596
       Coding: 0022167
       Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
       VCID: 3662A60441680FF223-8062
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 55: Headlight Range (J431)       Labels: 6R0-907-357.clb
       Part No SW: 6R0 907 357 B    HW: 6R0 907 357 A
       Component: LWR-ECU       005 0030  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
       Coding: 078E000001000000
       Shop #: WSC 05311 115 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRCC 002004
       ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRCC.rod
       VCID: 3978AD38B876E08ACE-806C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 61: Battery Regul. (J840)       Labels: 1K0-907-534.clb
       Part No SW: 7N0 907 534     HW: 7N0 907 530 AN
       Component: Batt.regelung H56 1642  
       Serial number: 220513F1000587
       Coding: 030F1859
       Shop #: WSC 05314 000 00000
       VCID: 71E85518A88668CA36-8024
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1K0 915 181 H    HW: 1K0 915 181 A
       Component: J367-BDM  H07 0180 
       Serial number: 30145J45361491396849
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 03:13)--------------------------

    Code:
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                    Address 01: Engine  (03L 906 018 PR)
    
    12:32:16
      IDE00432   Particle filter: time since last regeneration 15481 s
      IDE00433   Particle filter: oil ash volume 0.08 l
      IDE00434   Particle filter: soot mass calculated 10.48 g
      IDE00435   Particle filter: soot mass measured -0.01 g
      IDE00436   Particle filter: kilometers since last regeneration 196922 m
      IDE06059   Particle filter: oil ash volume 34.8 g
      IDE06060   Particulate filter ash load limit 70.00 g
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
                    Address 01: Engine  (03L 906 018 PR)
    
    12:32:19
      IDE00432   Particle filter: time since last regeneration 15485 s
      IDE00433   Particle filter: oil ash volume 0.08 l
      IDE00434   Particle filter: soot mass calculated 10.48 g
      IDE00435   Particle filter: soot mass measured -0.01 g
      IDE00436   Particle filter: kilometers since last regeneration 196922 m
      IDE06059   Particle filter: oil ash volume 34.8 g
      IDE06060   Particulate filter ash load limit 70.00 g
    Last edited by Uwe; 06-08-2017 at 09:26 AM. Reason: CODE tags

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    To add further, this is the Unit I sourced:

    http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/AfcAAO...e3/s-l1600.jpg

    This has the heated screen button, which is what my panel is missing. Mine has 'Rest' instead of heated screen. Other than this in terms of dials/buttons it's the same. I've already confirmed that I could not re-program the 'Rest' button, on my current unit, to activate the heated screen.

    So I had to source one with heated screen button, 99% of ones on eBay all have 'OFF'.

    I'm fairly confident and as suggested by my local VW tech that it should just be a straight swap, this new unit will work just as fine as the Sharan unit fitted. But it should now activate the screen, but it would be good to get it coded and match the car.

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