Golf 7 TPMS issue after cluster exchange

Spacewalker · Mar 2, 2017

Hello everyone.
VW did cluster exchange online from LowLine to HighLine .
All good , expect one error
TPMS on DiscoverMedia show - Not Available
Before cluster swap all was good.
I am able reset TPMS from ABS adaptation and VCDS show "correct ", but SET button on Discover media no longer work
All adaptation was re-write from old cluster to new,

Any suggestion where / what to look ?
I did some reserch and seems this error come from Trailer module, but cant find where to decode it , in a fact only cluster can contain Trailer info, because my car dont have that

Code:

Thursday,02,March,2017,21:20:31:25051
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86
VCDS Version: 17.1.3.0
Data version: 20170220 DS267.3
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Dealer/Shop Name: Spacewalker
Workshop Code: 020 01342 012345

VIN: WVWZZZAUZFW205302   License Plate: 
Mileage: 8510km-5287mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: AU (5Q0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 42 44 52 55 5F

VIN: WVWZZZAUZFW205302   Mileage: 8510km-5287miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CXSA)       Labels: 04E-907-309-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 04E 906 016 DE    HW: 04E 907 309 A
   Component: 1,4l R4 TSI   H10 7774  
   Revision: WAH10---    
   Coding: 01190032232405082000
   Shop #: WSC 01342 020 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM14TFS01104E906016DE 002006
   ROD: EV_ECM14TFS01104E906016DE_VW37.rod
   VCID: 68D5BA339312000141-803C

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 5Q0-907-379-IPB-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 3Q0 907 379 F    HW: 3Q0 907 379 F
   Component: ESC           H42 0609  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 63374000000767
   Coding: 01FA6AA124202971077A060041C52980562494E0608294F300200078C002
   Shop #: WSC 01342 020 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB 034027
   ROD: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB_034_VW37.rod
   VCID: 3D7B3B67AC1075A9C2-8068

1 Fault Found:
8299 - Databus 
          U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 4
                    Date: 2017.03.01
                    Time: 18:27:47


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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels: 5G0-907-426.clb
   Part No SW: 5G0 907 426 T    HW: 5G0 907 426 T
   Component: AC Manuell    H02 1001  
   Revision: 00001K06    
   Coding: 00020004200100001000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACManueBHBVW37X 003019
   ROD: EV_ACManueBHBVW37X_SK48.rod
   VCID: 3C7D3663B70A7CA1F5-8068

   Fresh Air Blower Front: 

   Refrigerant Pressure And Temperature Sender: 

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 5Q0-937-08X-HV1.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 937 084 AJ    HW: 5Q0 937 084 AJ
   Component: BCM MQBAB H   H18 0137  
   Serial number: 01011433701787
   Coding: 00000A42C24122730BA44080B10C07081000000000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 01342 020 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_BCMCONTI 013000
   ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_013.rod
   VCID: 000582939B62D841E9-8054

   Control Unit For Wiper Motor: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G1 955 119 A    HW: 5G1 955 119 A  Labels: 5QX-955-119-V1.CLB
   Component: WWS    140719  043 0551 
   Serial number:         140726190131
   Coding: 0E4DDD

   Rain Light Recognition Sensor: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5Q0 955 559 A    HW: 5Q0 955 559 A  Labels: 5Q0-955-547.CLB
   Component: RLS  037 0059 
   Serial number: S2Y14M12D10H17M35S39
   Coding: 05A8DD

   Sensor For Anti Theft Alarm System: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5Q0 951 172     HW: 5Q0 951 172 
   Component: Sensor, DWA  005 0315 
   Serial number: 000000000ZY143212GFC

   Alarm horn: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5Q0 951 605     HW: 5Q0 951 605 
   Component: Sirene, DWA  004 0311 
   Serial number: 00000000000061173199

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J791)       Labels: 5Q0-919-294.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 919 294 E    HW: 5Q0 919 294 A
   Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H03 0048  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 39391433514013
   Coding: 0031051001
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA18AU3700000 002024
   ROD: EV_EPHVA18AU3700000_VW37.rod
   VCID: 3D7B3B67AC1075A9C2-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 5Q0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 655 D    HW: 5Q0 959 655 D
   Component: AirbagVW20    014 0385  
   Serial number: 003F6R0E3NTY
   Coding: 98CCC000000000005C0000CF004800000065
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X 002130
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X_VW37.rod
   VCID: 41834797D0E81149A6-8014

   Side Sensor Driver Front: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 000 212 14
   Component: SideSensor_Df  001 0887 
   Serial number: 35767000000D2B74321S
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Passenger Front: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 000 412 14
   Component: SideSensor_Pf  001 0887 
   Serial number: 35867000000B5BE0321X
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Driver Rear: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 402 811 14
   Component: SideSensor_Dr  001 6149 
   Serial number: 3516502A7188FC24917K
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Passenger Rear: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 402 811 14
   Component: SideSensor_Pr  001 6149 
   Serial number: 3526502B318B3A71E22A
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Front Sensor Driver: 
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 402 811 14
   Component: FrontSensor_D  001 6149 
   Serial number: 3556502A118B3AB393AK
   Coding: 2D2D2D

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 5Q0-953-549.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 953 507 AA    HW: 5Q0 953 549 
   Component: Lenks. Modul  007 0070  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 05121408490885
   Coding: 0400
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSKLOMQB 009001
   ROD: EV_SMLSKLOMQB_VW37.rod
   VCID: 75EBE347D4A0EDE9CA-8020

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5G0-920-XXX-17.lbl
   Part No SW: 517 920 750     HW: 517 920 750 
   Component: KOMBI         301 4260  
   Coding: 07A502002B80000807087E001400000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 111246 001 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 009036
   ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_009_VW26.rod
   VCID: 54AD7EC33F9A94E11D-8000

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 5Q0-907-530-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 907 530 AC    HW: 5Q0 907 530 F
   Component: GW MQB High   128 1204  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 0002818375
   Coding: 030100042F085700EF000048080F00010001050000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewLear 011020
   ROD: EV_GatewLear_011.rod
   VCID: 72E1D85BA5CEFAD1EF-8026

   Alternator: 

   Multi Function Steering Wheel Control Module: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5G0 959 442 J    HW: 5G0 959 442 J  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-DC1  H16 0038 
   Serial number: 29140002727390084496
   Coding: 28FFFF

   Battery Monitoring Control Module: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5Q0 915 181 G    HW: 5Q0 915 181 G
   Component: J367-BDMHella  H04 8050 
   Serial number: 1945735203          

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels: 5QX-959-X93-42.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 393 D    HW: 5Q0 959 393 B
   Component: TSG FS        020 0028  
   Serial number: 071214BL615153
   Coding: 003002208000040000001000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMINKLO 006003
   ROD: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT.rod
   VCID: 40854293DBE21841A9-8014

   Drivers Door Rear Control Module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q0 959 811     HW: 5Q0 959 811   Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
   Component: FOND_FHSG_DRV  005 0005 
   Serial number: 00000000000004643923
   Coding: 110000

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels: 5Q0-909-144.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 909 144 R    HW: 5Q0 909 144 R
   Component: EPS_MQB_ZFLS  126 1061  
   Coding: 0102
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisMQB 012140
   ROD: EV_SteerAssisMQB_VW31.rod
   VCID: 438F4D9FCAF40359B4-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels: 5QX-959-X92-52.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 592 D    HW: 5Q0 959 592 B
   Component: TSG BFS       020 0028  
   Serial number: 021214BL211212
   Coding: 003000208E00040000801000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXKLO 006003
   ROD: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT.rod
   VCID: 41834797D0E81149A6-8014

   Passengers Rear Door Control Module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q0 959 812     HW: 5Q0 959 812   Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
   Component: FOND_FHSG_PSG  005 0005 
   Serial number: 00000000000004670226
   Coding: 090000

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range (J431)       Labels: 5Q0-907-357.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 907 357     HW: 6R0 907 357 A
   Component: LWR-ECU       005 0080  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 029A000001000000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRMQB 001110
   ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRMQB_VW26.rod
   VCID: 75EBE347D4A0EDE9CA-8020

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels: 5G0-035-MIB-HGH1.clb
   Part No SW: 5G0 035 043 C    HW: 5G0 035 043 
   Component: MU-H-N-EU     H40 0290  
   Serial number: A457D0E7514135
   Coding: 02730001FF00000011110001000B00001F020794010001017F
   Shop #: WSC 111246 001 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MUHig4CHBAS 001040
   ROD: EV_MUHig4CHBAS_VW37.rod
   VCID: 1E39DCEB01D60EB1FB-804A

   Operating And Display Unit 1: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G0 919 606     HW: 5G0 919 606 
   Component: ABT_High  H62 0032 
   Serial number: VWZ8Z9RU304L3X      

   Data medium: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: V03 959 801 DG    HW: -----------
   Component: ECE 2016/2017  --- 0153 
   Serial number: --------------------

   Compact Disc Database: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: V03 959 800 EG    HW: -----------
   Component: Gracenote  --- 1008 
   Serial number: --------------------

No fault code found.

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Trade Member · Mar 2, 2017

1 Fault Found:
8299 - Databus
U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message

Have you not got a communication fault from the ABS controller?

DV52 · Mar 2, 2017

Spacewalker: check your settings for the following:

Module @ 5F>
>Channel "(13)-Vehicle function list BAP-tire_pressure_system_0x07"> Set value to "active"
> Channel "(14)-Vehicle function list BAP-tire_pressure_system_0x07_msg_bus"> Set value to " Suspension data bus"
> Channel "(56)-Vehicle menu operation-menu_display_rdk "> Set value to "active"
> Channel "(58)-Vehicle menu operation-menu_display_rdk_over_threshold_high "> Set value to "active"

Also - I have a note on my database about retro-fitting TPMS that says that the last two Bytes on the ABS should be C202 - but I have no further explanation and I have not noted the reference source for this information. So I can't vouch for the authenticity of this suggestion. The last two Bytes on your ABS are COO2 - might be worth considering-though as I say, not sure about this change

Don

Spacewalker · Mar 2, 2017

ABS keep factory coding because I restore coding after new cluster sucesfully dapated
I think ABS is not proper adapt , in a fact , ABS lost all settings when new cluster was IN, and I need adapt TRAILER (DISABLE) in ABS adaptation

Will check 5F coding just in case however before cluster replace all was perfect and no even small issue , but worth to try

feedback soon ....

Spacewalker · Mar 3, 2017

ERROR in ABS sorted
Trailer and Car stabilizer - changed to 0
But still TPMS show " Enabling ..."
Checked 5F adaptation and is good , in a fact was untouch after cluster exchange

I see label file for BW and Color cluster is this same and code to " Indirect TPMS "

Only problem with ABS adaptation:
Tire pressure monitoring Display - value 2
Tire Pressure Monitoring Display , Tire Selection - value 2

cant change it even after proper Security Access code , and dont know if this is correct or not

Dana · Mar 3, 2017

I'm just guessing here but 19-CAN GW has ADP options like:

Installation list: specified installations - Tire Pressure Monitoring 1

Not coded
coded

GW_Enable_CAN_Timeout_DTC - Tire Pressure Monitoring 1

not enabled
Enabled

The only SA code I know of for 03-ABS is 40168. I don't think old-school codes like 70605 or 50403 will be accepted.

After looking at my 03 maps I see the channels you mention and my stock values are:
IDE07006-Tire pressure monitoring display: tire selection 1
IDE04939-Tire pressure monitoring display 2

Dana · Mar 3, 2017

P.S. Did you try Basic Settings Reset tire pressure monitoring display warnings in the 03-ABS module just to see if it allows the reset without the menu?

DV52 · Mar 3, 2017

Dana said:
I'm just guessing here but 19-CAN GW has ADP options like:

Installation list: specified installations - Tire Pressure Monitoring 1

Not coded
coded
GW_Enable_CAN_Timeout_DTC - Tire Pressure Monitoring 1

not enabled
Enabled

The only SA code I know of for 03-ABS is 40168. I don't think old-school codes like 70605 or 50403 will be accepted.

After looking at my 03 maps I see the channels you mention and my stock values are:
IDE07006-Tire pressure monitoring display: tire selection 1
IDE04939-Tire pressure monitoring display 2

Dana: the stock settings for the 2 x TPMS adaptation channels in my 03 module (mk7) are the same. From my webpage ramblings over the past, I've amassed quite a few "alleged" security codes for the mk7 ABS module from a number of different sources - can't vouch for any of them, but here they are:

11966
15081
18573
20103
24435
25004
28183
31857
37202
40168
44595
10505
19249

Don

Spacewalker · Mar 3, 2017

Dana said:
P.S. Did you try Basic Settings Reset tire pressure monitoring display warnings in the 03-ABS module just to see if it allows the reset without the menu?

Yes, passed all the time.
Dont even know if Discover Media pro will display Tire issue , in a fact - system is still "enabling.... "

Spacewalker · Mar 7, 2017

Ok everywone, problem sorted, and I have to aplologize because is partly my fault
And seems it was since I replaced radio to Discover Media and never look TPMS over a half a year

DV52 said:
Module @ 5F>
>Channel "(13)-Vehicle function list BAP-tire_pressure_system_0x07"> Set value to "active"
> Channel "(14)-Vehicle function list BAP-tire_pressure_system_0x07_msg_bus"> Set value to " Suspension data bus"
> Channel "(56)-Vehicle menu operation-menu_display_rdk "> Set value to "active"
> Channel "(58)-Vehicle menu operation-menu_display_rdk_over_threshold_high "> Set value to "active"

Don

Don, your suggestion was 100% right , I missed that ;(
Channel "(14)-Vehicle function list BAP-tire_pressure_system_0x07_msg_bus"> Set value to " Suspension data bus
and when I sorted that , problem gone
so ABS coding is still genuine and proper, adaptation too , just 5F unit was not proper adapt last time

Thank you all for support !!!

barstanders · Mar 7, 2017

Hello Spacewalker and Dana,

I want to now how dit you do this!!

Spacewalker said:
I am able reset TPMS from ABS adaptation and VCDS show "correct "

Spacewalker said:
ABS keep factory coding because I restore coding after new cluster sucesfully dapated
I think ABS is not proper adapt , in a fact , ABS lost all settings when new cluster was IN

Dana said:
P.S. Did you try Basic Settings Reset tire pressure monitoring display warnings in the 03-ABS module just to see if it allows the reset without the menu?

I ask olso here about the ABS settings but get no answer. at all!!

http://forums.ross-tech.com/showthr...l-speed-sensor-Instrument-cluster-combination

So i want to now on the ABS you have with VCDS basic setting like.

Basic setting of ESP sensor unit
Basic setting for linlet/cut-out valves
Reset to factory settings.

CAN I PERFORM THIS WITHOUT ANY OTHER FEHLERS TO COME WHAT I CANT RESOLVE WITH VCDS!!!

Golf 7 TPMS issue after cluster exchange

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