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    Don, what engine you had in car from your scan is? Because we have different SW + HW numbers and Component name.

    My is 2.0 TSI 180KM. I'll try to get scans from my friend 2.0 TSI 220KM tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DV52 View Post
    VCDS has been somewhat economic in reporting information from the module- notice no adaptation channels.
    You mean this one, right?

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    Address 01: Engine (J623-CHHB)       Labels: None
       Part No SW: 5N0 906 259     HW: 06K 907 425 B
       Component: 2.0l R4 TFSI  H13 0002  
       Revision: --H13---    
       Coding: 092500322466050B3000
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TFS0205N0906259 001004
       ROD: N/A
       VCID: 72A81FA0A5EE89D05D-8026
    
    No ASAM data for: "EV_ECM20TFS0205N0906259" (VW37)
    Not a problem with your HEX-NET per se. No .ROD data available means VCDS has no clue where to look for Adaptation Channels...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
    You mean this one, right?


    Not a problem with your HEX-NET per se. No .ROD data available means VCDS has no clue where to look for Adaptation Channels...

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    Uwe: Many thanks for the reply. If I could stretch your response to a further question what about the codes string in the BCM? Is this also a known issue?

    Don

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    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 5Q0-937-08X-V2.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 937 084 CG    HW: 5Q0 937 084 CG
       Component: BCM MQBAB H   H34 0236  
       Serial number: 02001634700021
       Coding: 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_BCMMQB 017001
       ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_017.rod
       VCID: 7F4EC694E6BCD4B822-802A
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    Quote Originally Posted by DV52 View Post
    what about the codes string in the BCM? Is this also a known issue?
    When I tried to check what is inside 09 using Long Coding Helper, I found nothing. Only zeros in coding (plus no checkboxes) and some red message, don't remember what exactly was written - I can check today if this is something "new" in behavior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DV52 View Post
    Uwe: Many thanks for the reply. If I could stretch your response to a further question what about the codes string in the BCM? Is this also a known issue?

    Don

    Code:
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 5Q0-937-08X-V2.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 937 084 CG    HW: 5Q0 937 084 CG
       Component: BCM MQBAB H   H34 0236  
       Serial number: 02001634700021
       Coding: 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_BCMMQB 017001
       ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_017.rod
       VCID: 7F4EC694E6BCD4B822-802A
    We've seen a few of these in really late-model cars and have gotten debug files from them. They really do send all zeros when we request the current coding value from them. IIRC, an ODIS scan shwos the same thing. We'll dig more deeply when we get a car in the RT fleet that has a BCM that exhibits this behavior.

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    I just sitting in most equipped Tig as possible - only without webasto - and make maps for 32 modules.

    9'th return zeros as other cars tested on first submodule, but has some coding on next two submodules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
    We've seen a few of these in really late-model cars and have gotten debug files from them. They really do send all zeros when we request the current coding value from them. IIRC, an ODIS scan shwos the same thing. We'll dig more deeply when we get a car in the RT fleet that has a BCM that exhibits this behavior.

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    Uwe: So, do you think that these modules are the first to be produced without code-strings, as suggested by Sebastian in his response to my thread "how many bytes is too many'? Seems odd because I can't find any substitute in the new adaptation channels of the BCM for the software switches that were in the Bit-structure for the old modules. It also seems odd to remove active code-strings from the new BCM when the same vehicles are fitted with ABS modules that now have a massive 47 Byte-count! What's VW doing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DV52 View Post
    Uwe: So, do you think that these modules are the first to be produced without code-strings, as suggested by Sebastian in his response to my thread "how many bytes is too many'? Seems odd because I can't find any substitute in the new adaptation channels of the BCM for the software switches that were in the Bit-structure for the old modules. It also seems odd to remove active code-strings from the new BCM when the same vehicles are fitted with ABS modules that now have a massive 47 Byte-count! What's VW doing?
    Don, I'm not in a position to do much more than speculate just yet, and that's something I don't really wish to do at the moment. Like I said, we'll go digging into this when we have a car that has one of these modules -- hopefully this spring.

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    Hello. Can you check the variable values in ecu 13, specifically "Status of all SWaP functions [$ 3C00]"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexridl View Post
    Hello. Can you check the variable values in ecu 13, specifically "Status of all SWaP functions [$ 3C00]"?
    I have limited access to VCDS, so it takes time to post response.

    In this case, I have no idea what data you want from me. Can you describe steps I should make to get values you want?

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