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    Only channel is for sound level %.
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    Have you maybe tried [Basic setting-04] "Resetting of all adaptation values" if that does anything ?

    Or maybe you should have tried from Seat:
    Part No SW: 5F0 907 159 A HW: 4H0 907 159 A (used for 1.8l R4 TFSI)

    Part No SW: 5F0 907 159 HW: 4H0 907 159 A (used for R4 2.0l EDC)
    Part No SW: 5F0 907 159 B HW: 4H0 907 159 A (used for 2.0l R4 TFSI)
    Part No SW: 5F0 907 159 C HW: 4H0 907 159 A (used for 2.0l R4 TFSI)
    Last edited by NEtech; 04-21-2017 at 12:29 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NEtech View Post
    Have you maybe tried [Basic setting-04] "Resetting of all adaptation values" if that does anything ?

    Or maybe you should have tried from Seat:
    Part No SW: 5F0 907 159 A HW: 4H0 907 159 A (used for 1.8l R4 TFSI)

    Part No SW: 5F0 907 159 HW: 4H0 907 159 A (used for R4 2.0l EDC)
    Part No SW: 5F0 907 159 B HW: 4H0 907 159 A (used for 2.0l R4 TFSI)
    Part No SW: 5F0 907 159 C HW: 4H0 907 159 A (used for 2.0l R4 TFSI)
    Yes I performed a reset of all adaptation values when I started up the car after install. Didn't do anything except remove some other errors which naver came back.

    About Part No SW: 5F0 907 159 A HW: 4H0 907 159 A (used for 1.8l R4 TFSI). Do you think it really makes a difference? Possibly the software found inside the module for specific engines is my issue here I hope my issue can be resolved by simply somwhow making the module think it's installed in the correct vehicle. If not then I will need to source a used Seat control module.

    http://www.oemepc.com/seat/part_sing...rt_id/0/lang/e

    Last edited by quailallstar; 04-21-2017 at 02:04 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    Wow, I wonder if it sees the 1.8T ECU or other config and says "nope". I searched our records and found some scans from similar cars but no 1.8T with A9, only 2.0T.
    Andy: Hi - in your research of RT records (man, would I enjoy rummaging around in that "delicious" database!), did you manage to investigate the intriguing entry in the code string for the Instrument module (@ address hex17) called internal noise actuator (it appears in the 2 x non RT devices that I own)?

    In a remarkable coincidence of happenstance, I came across this Bit title (this morning) when reading this thread whilst I was waiting for a batch process to complete on the Instrument module on my test bench (which wasn't successful - but that's a question for another day). Galvanized into action by the potential link with your post, I thought that I would activate the entry (on my test bench) and see-what-happens! First task was to ascertain which Byte/Bit the entry was related -it appears this is Byte 12, Bit 0.

    As you will know from your long experience, Bit descriptor entries can be very non-intuitive (albeit the RT long coding helper screen entries are certainly much better than others that I have seen). Anyhow, my first thought was that somehow a version of Instrument module in the product-series on my test bench had some form of the same Soundaktor as per this thread, but perhaps this Bit is related to the module @ address A9 (perhaps - just a guess)?

    So, I note that Byte 12 on quailallstar's instrument module has a value of hex10, so Bit 0 isn't set (and I don't suggest a change without more evidence), but when I enabled Byte 12, Bit 0 on my test bench I got the following error message on the MFD screen External vehicle noise fault: Drive with caution! -and the following DTC: DTC-ID 16776993 ($FFFF21):09 - Description: (U112100) Database missing message (this probably tells you which diagnostic device I was using - apology for the disclosure)

    The reference to "External vechicle noise" in the error message does suggest that another module is involved (perhaps), but did any of the instrument modules on the cars that you researched for your post (above) have Byte 12, Bit 0 set?

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    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb
       Part No SW: 5G0 920 961 A    HW: 5G0 920 961 A
       Component: KOMBI         252 2210  
       Coding: 27A41A002780260001882A01000000
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 008031
       ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_008_VW37.rod
       VCID: 281C3DC853B2B302D4-807C
    Last edited by DV52; 04-21-2017 at 11:24 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DV52 View Post
    External vehicle noise fault: Drive with caution!
    Then that bit is probably not related to our normal Sound Aktuator, but rather to an external noise generator that's present as a warning to pedestrians on models capable of being operated in pure electric mode. Without an external noise generator, they are considered to be "too silent" and thus hazardous to pedestrians.

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    (U112100) Database missing message
    No comment.

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    I'm having the same problem retrofitting a Audi S6 module (4G0 907 159 B) on my A6 3.0 TFSI. From what I understand this can only be fixed using a custom CAN emulator which fakes the correct engine type to the A9 module. However I haven't been able to find such a emulator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucas View Post
    I'm having the same problem retrofitting a Audi S6 module (4G0 907 159 B) on my A6 3.0 TFSI. From what I understand this can only be fixed using a custom CAN emulator which fakes the correct engine type to the A9 module. However I haven't been able to find such a emulator.
    I too haven't heard of such a thing before. I'm wondering if I pick up a 1.8t control module from a SEAT, if I'll have better luck.
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    Forgive me if I missed it but I was snooping in Andy's GTI 19 map and found Structure-borne Sound stuff. I headed over to my Alltrack map thread and see:

    IDE01996-SFT00071-Installation list: specified installations-Sound System Not coded
    ENG05986-SFT00169-GW_Enable_CAN_Timeout_DTC-Actuator For Structure-borne Sound Enabled

    01-Engine doesn't appear to use any special bits but I wonder if this could be as simple as a 19 Adp tweak?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dana View Post
    Forgive me if I missed it but I was snooping in Andy's GTI 19 map and found Structure-borne Sound stuff. I headed over to my Alltrack map thread and see:

    IDE01996-SFT00071-Installation list: specified installations-Sound System Not coded
    ENG05986-SFT00169-GW_Enable_CAN_Timeout_DTC-Actuator For Structure-borne Sound Enabled

    01-Engine doesn't appear to use any special bits but I wonder if this could be as simple as a 19 Adp tweak?
    Hey @Dana - let me see if I understand your hunch correctly. You suspect that enabling the module might be something as simple as updating the channel 19 adaptation install list?
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    Yeah since it is active on Andy's 2.0T and not on my 1.8T wagon. In your case shoot for IDE01996-SFT00071-Installation list: specified installations-Sound System Coded (or active). I doubt DTC-Actuator For Structure-borne Sound Enabled changes functionality.

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