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    From the FAQ on the above-linked site:


    What's the harm?

    Vehicles are certified to specific environmental standards for air pollutants. NOx is an important contributor to development of ozone, and ozone is a serious public health and environmental problem, especially in California. NOx emissions contribute to the formation of ozone, and can worsen symptoms of asthma and cardio-pulmonary disease. About 10 million Californians live in what U.S. EPA considers severe non-attainment areas for ozone, which violate the federal Clean Air Act. Those 10 million Californians represent 100 percent of the Americans living under such conditions.


    Tacit admission that the other 310 million of us who don't live in the Los Angeles basin have to be burdened with absurdly stringent standards for NOx emissions because a small, over-populated part of California has a problem.

    I have a better idea: How about you just ban diesel passenger cars from the LA basin and leave the rest of us alone?


    Well that's true Uwe but when car manufacturers use a CARB certification to file with a COC application & as a free pass...... that is another story, since CARB is a higher level of emissions clean than the EPA.
    How about manufacturer not try to have their cake and eat it too and certify cars for non CARB compliance?

    Cars used to be non 50 state available COC stickers under hoods.........now didn't they?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
    I have a better idea: How about you just ban diesel passenger cars from the LA basin and leave the rest of us alone?

    I say we take off and nuke the entire state from orbit... It's the only way to be sure.


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    Quote Originally Posted by D-Dub View Post
    I say we take off and nuke the entire state from orbit... It's the only way to be sure.
    I certainly wouldn't be shedding a tear if an earthquake dumped the entire state into the Pacific Ocean....

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    yea if only NYC to washing dc was on an earthquake faultline too, we could get rid of the east and west, so the rest of us can live in peace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D-Dub View Post
    yea if only NYC to washing dc was on an earthquake faultline too, we could get rid of the east and west, so the rest of us can live in peace.
    The Ramapo fault is a good start. Also, don't forget the DC earthquake a few years ago that broke the Washington Monument. People here at work in upstate New Yorkistan felt it on the second/third floor of my office building, but I didn't feel anything on the ground floor.

    Sadly, I have yet to feel an earthquake. On my bucket list, though. Maybe I'll have to head out to Oklahoma, where you can supposedly set your watch by earthquakes?????

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    Germany Investigates Audi Emissions in Europe, Widening VW Inquiry

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    BERLIN — German prosecutors have widened a criminal investigation into Volkswagen’s Audi unit after authorities accused the luxury carmaker of installing a system designed to evade emissions rules in cars in Europe, a major shift for an inquiry that has previously concentrated on the United States.
    The move, announced on Friday by authorities in Munich, adds to the troubles facing Volkswagen. The company has been hit by a wave of lawsuits and penalties after revelations in 2015 that it illegally used so-called defeat devices to pollute more than was allowed.
    The automaker has already agreed to pay $22 billion in penalties and settlements in the United States and pleaded guilty to its vast emissions deception, which involved a variety of Volkswagen, Audi and Porsche-branded vehicles. Six Volkswagen executives face criminal charges in the United States. And the company is grappling with further legal action in Europe, where dozens of senior staff members — including its former chief executive — are being investigated.
    Munich prosecutors searched Audi offices in March as part of a criminal investigation into Audi’s behavior in the United States, threatening a crucial source of badly needed profit. At the time, prosecutors said the raids were meant to help determine who was responsible for the American wrongdoing.
    Engineering a Deception: What Led to Volkswagen’s Diesel Scandal

    In September 2015, Volkswagen was accused of evading emissions standards in the U.S. The scandal has hit the company hard.



    On Friday, Munich officials said they had widened the investigation to include vehicles in Europe. According to Ken Heidenreich, a spokesman for the Munich prosecutors’ office, the decision came after an announcement by Alexander Dobrindt, Germany’s transportation minister, that officials had found software that altered the emissions on Audi’s A7 and A8 sedans from model years 2009-13.
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    Audi said in a statement issued after the announcement that it would begin recalling the vehicles starting in July to correct emissions levels of nitrogen oxide that can “exceed the limit by a factor of up to two.”
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    The Audis affected included software designed to ensure that a urea solution that neutralizes the emissions was administered in high enough doses only in a controlled test-lab environment. But out on the road, the amount of solution administered to the system would be decreased so drivers would not have to fill the tank containing it as frequently.
    Audi wanted to minimize consumption of the solution, known as AdBlue, because it feared that the inconvenience and expense of refilling the holding tank would turn off buyers.
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    It said that it was cooperating fully with the investigation and Germany’s federal motor transport authority. It apologized to customers for “the inconvenience.”
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    The investigation is particularly troubling for Volkswagen because Audi is a major profit center for the company.
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    Audi’s luxury cars account for a disproportionate share of Volkswagen’s profits, so any damage to Audi’s image would be particularly serious. Luxury models like the Audi A8 sedan or the Q7 sport utility vehicle accounted for about 15 percent of the vehicles sold by Volkswagen last year but produced a third of its 14.6 billion euro, or $16.4 billion, operating profit.
    In addition to admitting that its Volkswagen-brand vehicles illegally evaded American emissions requirements, the company has said that Audi cars sold in the United States had at least three devices that managed the vehicles’ pollution control systems but were not disclosed to regulators as required.
    On top of what Volkswagen has already agreed to pay in fines and settlements in the United States, Audi will pay $1.2 billion to settle a consumer fraud lawsuit by the Federal Trade Commission involving about 80,000 Audi and Porsche vehicles with diesel motors.
    Volkswagen has insisted that no members of its management board were aware of the emissions fraud, which lasted a decade and, according to the company’s plea agreement in the United States, included engineers, quality-control experts, high-ranking managers and internal lawyers.

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    Six Michigan officials criminally charged in Flint water crisis



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    Six current and former Michigan and Flint officials were criminally charged on Wednesday for their roles in the city's water crisis that was suspected of being responsible for an outbreak of Legionnaires' disease that led to at least 12 deaths, the state's attorney general said.


    Five of the officials, including Michigan Health and Human Services Director Nick Lyon, were charged with involuntary manslaughter stemming from their roles in handling the crisis, Michigan Attorney General Bill Schuette said in a statement.
    Involuntary manslaughter is a felony that carries a sentence of up to 15 years in prison.
    Lyon, 49, was also charged with one count of misconduct in office. The felony charge carries a sentence of up to five years in prison.
    Four current and former state and Flint officials were also charged with involuntary manslaughter. The four had all been previously charged with lesser crimes in connection with the water crisis.
    The state's Chief Medical Executive Eden Wells was charged on Wednesday with obstruction of justice and lying to police.
    Governor Rick Snyder said in a statement that Lyon and Wells have his "full faith and confidence" and would remain on duty and help in Flint's recovery. Snyder called Lyon "a strong leader."
    The charges stem from more than 80 cases of Legionnaires' disease, including at least 12 that were fatal, that were believed to be linked to the water in Flint after the city switched its source to the Flint River from Lake Huron in April 2014.
    Lyon was aware of the Legionnaires' outbreak in Gensee County at least one year before he informed the public, according to court documents. His deliberate failure to inform the public resulted in the death of Genesee Township resident Robert Skidmore, 85, from Legionnaires' in December 2015.
    Wells lied to police about when she became aware of the outbreak, according to the documents. She also threatened a team of independent researchers who were studying the source of the disease, court documents said.
    An attorney for Lyon did not immediately respond to a request for comment. It was not immediately known if Wells had an attorney.
    The crisis in Flint erupted in 2015 when tests found high amounts of lead in blood samples taken from children in the predominantly black city of about 100,000.
    The more corrosive river water caused lead to leach from pipes and into the drinking water. Lead levels in Flint's drinking water had fallen fell below federal limits, state officials said last January.
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    What Does the Check Engine Light Mean?


    You're driving along in your car or truck and suddenly a yellow light illuminates on your dash telling you to check or service your engine. If you're like most car owners, you have little idea about what that light is trying to tell you or exactly how you should react.
    Call it the most misunderstood indicator on your dashboard, the "check engine" light can mean many different things, from a loose gas cap to a seriously misfiring engine.
    "It doesn't mean you have to pull the car over to the side of the road and call a tow truck. It does mean you should get the car checked out as soon as possible," says Dave Cappert of the National Institute for Automotive Service Excellence, a Virginia-based organization that tests and certifies auto technicians.
    Ignore the warning, and you could end up damaging expensive components. It also can be a sign that your car is getting poor fuel economy and emitting higher levels of pollutants.
    What the Light Means
    The "check engine" light is part of your car's so-called onboard diagnostics (OBD) system. Since the 1980s, computers increasingly have controlled and monitored vehicle performance, regulating such variables as engine speed (RPM), fuel mixture, and ignition timing. In some cars, the computer also tells the automatic transmission when to shift.
    When it finds a problem in the electronic-control system that it can't correct, the computer turns on a yellow warning indicator that's labeled "check engine," "service engine soon," or "check powertrain." Or the light may be nothing more than a picture of an engine, known as the International Check Engine Symbol, perhaps with the word "Check." In addition to turning on the light, the computer stores a "trouble code" in its memory that identifies the source of the problem, such as a malfunctioning sensor or a misfiring engine. The code can be read with an electronic scan tool or a diagnostic computer, standard equipment in auto repair shops. There are also a number of relatively inexpensive code readers that are designed for do-it-yourselfers.
    Manufacturers originally used the OBD system to help technicians pinpoint and troubleshoot malfunctions. But the systems now are required under federal laws governing automotive emissions. Although larger trucks have been exempt from the requirement, that is quickly changing.
    "The 'check engine' light is reserved only for powertrain problems that could have an impact on the emissions systems," says John Van Gilder, General Motors' lead OBD development engineer.
    Exactly what the OBD system looks for depends on the make, model and year. The original systems varied widely in their capabilities. Some did little more than check whether the various electronic sensors and actuators were hooked up and working.
    That changed by 1996, when, under OBD II regulations, carmakers were required to install a much more sophisticated system that essentially acts like a built-in state emissions testing station. The computer monitors and adjusts dozens of components and processes. For example, it continually samples exhaust emissions as they come out of the engine and again when they leave the catalytic converter, a device that removes carbon monoxide and hydrocarbon pollutants from the exhaust. The system also monitors your car's fuel system to ensure that gasoline vapors are not escaping into the atmosphere through a leak or even a loose or missing gas cap. In most cases, if a problem occurs, the computer will wait to see if it corrects itself before turning on the light. Modern OBD II systems are so thorough that state testing centers increasingly are checking for any stored trouble codes and foregoing the traditional tailpipe emissions test.
    Some states are considering an advanced OBD system that would allow them to do away with emissions testing. If the "check engine" light comes on, the system automatically would send a remote signal to state officials, who would contact motorists who don't have the problem corrected within a reasonable amount of time. Privacy advocates are criticizing the idea as being too intrusive. Depending on the system, officials might be able to trace where the vehicle had been. Proponents say the system would free motorists from the time and expense of having to undergo annual or biennial emission testing, and it would help ensure that emission-related problems are detected and fixed more quickly.
    Remote diagnostics already can be found on GM vehicles equipped with the OnStar communications system. When the "check engine" light goes on, GM car owners can notify an OnStar representative, who can read the trouble code and provide advice.
    © Provided by Consumer ReportsWhat to Do About the Check Engine Light
    If the "check engine" light illuminates, it will either blink or remain constant, depending on the problem. Either way, you should have the vehicle checked by a mechanic, although a blinking light or, on some cars, a red light instead of a yellow/orange light indicates a problem that needs immediate attention. In late-model cars, a blinking light usually indicates an engine misfire so severe that unburned fuel is being dumped into the exhaust system, where it can quickly damage the catalytic converter, requiring an expensive repair. If that happens, you should reduce power and have the car or truck looked at as soon as possible. If the light is steady, the problem is not an emergency, but you should schedule an appointment as soon as possible. Today's automotive computers often try to compensate when there's a problem; so you may not notice deterioration in performance, even though your fuel mileage is suffering and your vehicle is emitting unacceptable levels of hydrocarbons and other pollutants.
    "The customer is really, in the long run, potentially hurting their pocket book by leaving that light on and ignoring it," says Jim Collins, a national training team leader for Ford Motor Company. In some extreme cases, the car's computer may reduce power for you, as it tries to limit the risk of damage.
    If the check-engine light comes on, here are some tips on what you should do:

    • Look for a serious problem that requires immediate attention. Check your dashboard gauges and lights for indications of low oil pressure or overheating. These conditions mean you should pull over and shut off the engine as soon as you can find a safe place to do so. On some cars, a yellow "check engine" means investigate the problem, while a red "check engine" means stop right now.
    • Try tightening your gas cap. This often solves the problem. Keep in mind that it may take several trips before the light resets. Some vehicles have a separate indicator that warns of a loose gas cap before the condition sets off the "check engine" light.
    • Reduce speed and load. If the "check engine" light is blinking or you notice any serious performance problems, such as a loss of power, reduce your speed and try to reduce the load on the engine. For example, it would be a good idea to stop towing a trailer. Have the car checked as soon as possible to prevent expensive damage.
    • Contact OnStar, if available. If you have a 1997 or later General Motors vehicle equipped with OnStar and an active OnStar subscription, contact an advisor who can read the trouble code remotely and advise you about what to do.
    • Have the code read and the problem fixed. If you want to diagnose the malfunction yourself, you can buy a scan tool at most auto parts stores. Prices range from about $40 to several hundred, depending on the model and the features. The tools come with instructions on how to hook them up and decipher the codes. But unless you have a good knowledge of automotive diagnostics, you're probably better off taking the vehicle to a professional. Some automotive parts stores will read and interpret the code for you without charge. Unless there is an easy fix, they may simply refer you to a mechanic.
    • Don't go for a state emissions test. In a late-model car, an illuminated "check engine" light probably is a sure sign your car will fail the test. In some states, it's an automatic failure, even if the problem was nothing more than a loose gas cap. By the way, don't bother trying to fool the inspection station by disconnecting the battery or using any other method to erase the trouble code and turn off the "check engine" light. Your vehicle's computer will let the inspection station know that its codes have been erased, and you'll just have to go back again.

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    Not my letter (was posted on another forum), but I liked the last paragraph...



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    If you are just a little bit into automotive electronics, and just a little bit into programming, you might find it interesting how an uninitiated embedded software engineer managed to reverse engineer a Dieselgated ECU software to reveal how they cheated.
    Being an ex-automotive software function developer, I was amazed how far this dude got with only information publicly available. Reverse engineering level 9999.

    Long video, no TLDRs, the tech stuff is blink-and-miss.

    You've been warned.



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