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    Replacement 4th Generation door control modules in Mk5 Golf platform models

    This thread explains the configuration process of replacement Front Door control modules for most 2005 through 2007 (1K) chassis VW Golf and Jetta NAR (US/Canadian market) models.

    What's the problem?

    When these cars were originally made, they used door controllers (the window motor assembly with a control module to handle things like mirrors and locks) with the CAN protocol. When the cars were facelifted for the Mk6 generation, the old CAN modules were replaced by UDS ones. Unfortunately, VW no longer sells the old CAN ones and instead only sells the new UDS ones that won't work without also replacing the CAN Gateway with a newer one that handles UDS.

    Additional technical jargon

    2nd and 3rd Generation Front Door control modules (Diagnostic Address Words 42 and 52) used the CAN Protocol. The latest 4th Generation Front door modules use the UDS Protocol.

    What's the difference?

    When 4th Generation UDS Protocol Front door modules are sold and installed as direct replacements they may not communicate diagnostically until the 19-CAN Gateway is replaced. Furthermore, the Left Front (#42) in addition to the Right Front (#52) modules should be replaced as a matching pair to prevent one touch up/down window problems in addition to rear door communication issues. The new Front UDS protocol units show the rear doors as sub system slaves rather than traditional address words 62 and 72 as found from production.

    VW Parts Bulletin Group 9, number 130 may add some clarity if your local VW Dealer parts department can obtain a copy.

    How do I configure the new modules?

    The following Replacement Steps apply when all 3 control modules need to be replaced:

    1) The New 19-CAN Gateway (J533) needs to be configured.
    1. Code the new 3 Byte 7N0 series part number 19: CAN Gateway using the [Long Coding Helper]. Make sure to use non-zero WSC/Importer/Equipment numbers before clicking [Do it!].
    2. Use the [Installation List] function to configure the installed control modules.
    3. Clear Fault codes.


    2) The replacement Front doors modules need to be coded. This can be accomplished in one of two possible ways:

    • If the Original coding is available:

    1. Convert the original short coding from Dec to Hex. For example:

      If the original 7 digit short coding in #42 was 0001205 that would convert to 4B5. Because the new controller uses a 3 Byte coding scheme the new coding value would be 0004B5. Using that same vehicle configuration example the original 7 digit short coding in #52 would be 0001204 which converts to 4B4. 0004B4 however would be used to obtain the proper 3 Byte / 6-digit length.

      Post # 3 includes a short coding to long coding [Long Coding Helper] tip from NEtech

    2. Paste or type the New Coding into each of the New Front door modules followed by clicking [Do it!]. Again, make sure non-zero WSC/Importer/Equipment numbers are used.
    3. Clear Fault codes in each module.

    • If the Original coding is either NOT available -or you don't want to use a calculator:

    1. The [Long Coding Helper] can be used to configure each control module from scratch. Non-zero WSC/Importer/Equipment numbers need to be entered before clicking [Do it!].
    2. Clear Fault codes in each module.


    3) At this point Address 19-CAN Gateway, 42-Door Elect, Driver and 52: Door Elect, Pass. should be configured The before, during and after scans should look something like the following shortened examples:

    Original condition
    Code:
    Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0F 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 65 72
    00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000  <- The new CAN Gateway will use 04 instead
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    0F-Digital Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    56-Radio -- Status: Status: OK 0000
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 1K0-907-530-V2.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 H    HW: 1K0 907 951 <- Older 1K0 series part number
       Component: J533__Gateway   H12 0150  
       Coding: 3FBF036007001002  <- Older 8 Byte coding scheme
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 2C5D0D4C8F6C0A41E27-8079
    
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN3.lbl  <- Gen 3 (Min) module
       Part No SW: 1K0 959 701 P    HW: 1K0 959 793 L
       Component: J386  TUER-SG FT    1125  
       Coding: 0001205    <- Traditional 7-digit short coding
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 3B7F3E107A029DF97BD-806E
    
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN3.lbl  <- Gen 3 (Min) module
       Part No SW: 1K0 959 702 P    HW: 1K0 959 792 L
       Component: J387  TUER-SG BT    1125  
       Coding: 0001204    <- Traditional 7-digit short coding
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 3C7D3D0C7F0C9AC1727-8069
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00933 - Electric Window Motor; Passenger Side (V148) 
                005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN3.lbl  <#62 was directly diagnostic capable
       Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 Q    HW: 1K0 959 795 J
       Component: J388   TUER-SG HL   1115  
       Coding: 0001168    <- Traditional 7-digit short coding
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 3E793704691088D15C3-806B
    
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN3.lbl  <#72 was directly diagnostic capable
       Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 Q    HW: 1K0 959 794 J
       Component: J389   TUER-SG HR   1115  
       Coding: 0001168    <- Traditional 7-digit short coding
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 3F874A006E1A81D9575-806A
    
    No fault code found.
    New 19, 42 and 52 installed.
    Code:
    Chassis Type: 1K (7N0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0F 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 65 72
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: Not registered 0001  <- The New CAN Gateway does not use 00 but 04 instead
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    0F-Digital Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
       Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 AK    HW: 7N0 907 530 AK <- Newer 7N0 series part number
       Component: J533  Gateway H57 1642  
       Coding: 350000  <- Newer 3 Byte coding scheme
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
       VCID: 79F3E418F0BE6FE9291-802C
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded 
                000 -  - 
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100000
                        Fault Priority: 1
                        Fault Frequency: 5
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 93507 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 01:44:16
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels: 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb  <- Newer Gen 4 module
       Part No SW: 561 959 701 A    HW: 3C0 959 793 C
       Component: TUER-SG FT    002 0501  
       Coding: 802090    <- New 3 Byte Long coding scheme
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
       ROD: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X.rod
       VCID: 1C3DDD8C17CCFAC1927-8049
    
       Slave Driver:   <#62 is gone and a subsystem of 42 at this time
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 Q    HW: 1K0 959 795 J
       Component: J388__TSG-HL  005 1115   
       Coding: 000490
    
    2 Faults Found:
    65539 - Control module not coded 
              U1013 00 [009] - -
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
    
    66048 - Motor for Front Window Regulator 
              B11EC 54 [009] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 7
                        Fault Frequency: 1
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels: 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb  <- Newer Gen 4 module
       Part No SW: 561 959 702 A    HW: 3C0 959 792 C
       Component: TUER-SG BT    002 0501  
       Coding: 802090    <- New 3 Byte Long coding scheme
       Shop #: WSC 08305 993 69448
       ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
       ROD: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X.rod
       VCID: 1D3BD0880CD6F3C9659-8048
    
       Slave Passenger:    <#72 is gone and a subsystem of 52 at this time
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 Q    HW: 1K0 959 794 J
       Component: J389__TSG-HR  004 1115 
       Coding: 000490
    
    2 Faults Found:
    65539 - Control module not coded 
              U1013 00 [009] - -
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
    
    66048 - Motor for Front Window Regulator 
              B11EC 54 [009] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 7
                        Fault Frequency: 1
    Final Auto-Scan.
    Code:
    Chassis Type: 1K (7N0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0F 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 65 72
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    0F-Digital Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
       Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 AK    HW: 7N0 907 530 AK
       Component: J533  Gateway H57 1642  
       Coding: 351002
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
       VCID: 79F3E418F0BE6FE9291-802C
    
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels: 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
       Part No SW: 561 959 701 A    HW: 3C0 959 793 C
       Component: TUER-SG FT    002 0501  
       Coding: 0004B5
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
       ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
       ROD: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X.rod
       VCID: 1C3DDD8C17CCFAC1927-8049
    
       Slave Driver: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 Q    HW: 1K0 959 795 J
       Component: J388__TSG-HL  005 1115   
       Coding: 000490
    
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels: 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
       Part No SW: 561 959 702 A    HW: 3C0 959 792 C
       Component: TUER-SG BT    002 0501  
       Coding: 0004B4
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
       ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
       ROD: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X.rod
       VCID: 1D3BD0880CD6F3C9659-8048
    
       Slave Passenger: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 Q    HW: 1K0 959 794 J
       Component: J389__TSG-HR  004 1115 
       Coding: 000490
    
    No fault code found.




    Registered customers seeking assistance determining if the 19-CAN Gateway would need to be replaced can:

    Either way, if new parts were already installed the post-repair Auto-Scan should be included with the inquiry.
    Last edited by Dana; 09-09-2015 at 04:28 PM.

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    Reserved for any additional info. Perhaps for a list of Mk5 based 19-CAN Gateway controllers that do and do NOT support UDS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dana View Post
    • If the Original coding is available:
      1 Convert the original short coding from Dec to Hex. For example:
      If the original 7 digit short coding in #42 was 0001205 that would convert to 4B5. Because the new controller uses a 3 Byte coding scheme the new coding value would be 0004B5. Using that same vehicle configuration example the original 7 digit short coding in #52 would be 0001204 which converts to 4B4. 0004B4 however would be used to obtain the proper 3 Byte / 6-digit length.
    If you have the [Long Coding Helper] already started, instead of the calculator, you can also copy the short coding 0001205 into LCode:


    Then press "h" and then it is in hex.


    And Copy

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    I wish I had read this before I replaced the module but then again it did result in my discovery of Ross-Tech. Great write up!

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    Someone could make some extended overview of door control modules of VAG cars. At least collect all available info together. There are so much different modifications, possible combinations etc. in Golf/Jetta MK5/MK6 and Passat B6/B7 generations . Sometimes new replacement modules can be ordered only through dealers by vehicle's VIN. But if someone already repaired or modified that car, the "correct" replacement modules will not work. Especially in modifications where CAN goes to front doors and LIN goes from front to rear. If there is no comms with rear, You can never know is LIN input of rear doors damaged or LIN output of front ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinsX View Post
    Someone could make some extended overview of door control modules of VAG cars.
    I just noticed that post when I realized our VW Golf (1K) Door Electronics Driver Wiki page was lacking a lot of information. We don't have door module links at all on the Mk6 Golf Wiki pages - and that's probably due to the newer Gen 4 UDS flavors introduced in 2010 on some vehicles. I'll tackle the UDS stuff on separate pages.

    I'm facelifting the old VW Golf (1K) Door Electronics Driver page now to cover CAN Protocol Generation 1 through Generation 3 but I didn't even think of the LIN split! That's a common body shop repair issue and we still take a handful of calls a year when a rear won't talk because the front has wrong parts (harness, module or both). I don't want to make that page overly complicated, sometimes less is more, but I do like the LIN suggestion!

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