Updating Central Convenience Module (CCM) MY 2009 Audi S5 ; Address 46, J393

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Good Afternoon Ladies and Gentlemen ,

I finally came across a used Audi RS5 retractable rear spoiler Package: a fellow Audi enthusiast in the UK was willing to ship the entire Package to me in the US. It is a comprehensive retrofit/package; everything necessary to install this electronic retractable rear deck (boot) lid spoiler. It is common to the Audi RS5, and other models, 2010 and up.

Common to my model year (and my primary reason for this post) is that in 2009 this spoiler package was not available as a Audi option and thus my CCM (address 46, J393) does not recognize it. So, what Audi owners such as myself need to do is to change the CCM to a updated version (8K0 907 064 CQ) ; my current CCM is 8K0 064 064 F . I understand that the CQ version supports A4,A5, and RS5's 2010 and up. In short I need to take the car into the Audi Dealer to have the new CCM coded. (Immobilizer etc.)

The dealer will attempt my request; I say attempt because I'm not sure Audi Germany ( when the dealer "plugs in" to do the updated CCM programming) will recode a CCM that is not original to my model year 2009. (?)

Does anyone have any insight to this CCM retrofit? Should I be aware of any road blocks that the Audi technician may encounter? Several Audi Forum members have done this very retrofit with Audi's prior to 2010, however I have not been able to reach any of them (all members threads that I have read about are in the UK) , so I know it can and has been done but I would like to be as prepared as possible as I don't think the Dealer has encountered this before.

Thank you! Stefan
 
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My latest scan/log in case its needed for Thread above. Thanks again, Stefan

Code:
Sunday,11,May,2014,10:10:44:55797
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
VCDS Version: 12.12.2.0 (x64)
Data version: 20140212


VIN: WAURV78T99A015469   License Plate: 463-SFN
Mileage: 76270km-47391mi   Repair Order: 5-11-2014



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Chassis Type: 8T (8T0)
Scan: 01 03 05 06 07 08 09 0E 0F 15 16 17 19 1E 36 37 42 46 47 52
          53 55 56 65 67 77

VIN: WAURV78T99A015469   Mileage: 76270km/47391miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
06-Seat Mem. Pass -- Status: OK 0000
07-Control Head -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
0E-Media Player 1 -- Status: OK 0000
0F-Digital Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
1E-Media Player 2 -- Status: OK 0000
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
55-Xenon Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: Malfunction 0010
67-Voice Control -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CAUB)       Labels: 079-907-560-CAU.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 907 560 K    HW: 8T0 907 560 
   Component: 4.2l V8/4V    H10 0002  
   Revision: 76H10---    
   Coding: 01140009180F0120
   Shop #: WSC 02621 444 176472
   VCID: 428B8552DD56240ECD3-8017

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 8K0-907-379.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 379 AB    HW: 8K0 907 379 AB
   Component: ESP8 quattro  H04 0060  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 110500
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 79F922BEF000A7D6DC9-802C

No fault code found.

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J393)       Labels: 8K0-907-064-05.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 F    HW: 8K0 907 064 F
   Component: BCM2 1.1      H80 0141  
   Revision: 00002001    
   Coding: 0B0000
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 3365D09692EC9D86565-8066

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8T0 959 754 M    HW: 8T0 959 754 M
   Component: FBSAUDIB8 IDG  H34 0050 

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 905 852 D    HW: 8K0 905 852 D
   Component: ELVAUDIB8  H36 0041 

No fault code found.

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Address 06: Seat Mem. Pass (J521)       Labels: 8T0-959-760.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 959 760 B    HW: 8T0 959 760 B
   Component: MEM-BFS       H09 0043  
   Revision: AA000000    Serial number: 00001001124746
   Coding: 00017025002C00000000
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 428B8552DD56240ECD3-8017

No fault code found.

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Address 07: Control Head        Labels: 8T0-035-7xx-07-H.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 035 729 L    HW: 4E0 035 729 
   Component: Interfacebox    H43 4610  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 339HT087504055
   Coding: 0025003
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 428B85521D56240ECD3-8017

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8T0 919 609 A
   Component: E0380 BedienteilH08 0100

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 00000000128574

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 0106.08.080000000100010063ÿ

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 010063ÿ

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 8T1 820 043 AC    HW: 8T1 820 043 AC
   Component: KLIMA 3 ZONEN H06 0140  
   Revision: C1000000    Serial number: 0109.08.080922
   Coding: 48022000
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 72EB1592AD76D48E9D3-8027

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 8K0-907-063.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 063 D    HW: 8K0 907 063 D
   Component: BCM1 1.0      H22 0253  
   Revision: 05022001    Serial number: 00000000205657
   Coding: 26001091063CAF010000080300003D3D0F1C138800010161000000
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 306FDF9A63FAA69E2B7-8065

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8T1 955 119 C    HW: 8J1 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: WWS 110808  H13 0040 
   Coding: 00FD11

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 955 559     HW: 8K0 955 559   Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
   Component: RLS  H04 0003 
   Coding: 02532C

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8K0 941 531 J    HW: 8K0 941 531 J
   Component: E1 - LDS  H07 0070 

   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 8K0 907 410 A    HW: 8K0 907 410 A
   Component: UGDO HL US  H04 0060 

No fault code found.

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Address 0E: Media Player 1        Labels: 4E0-910-111.lbl
   Part No SW: 8T1 035 110 C    HW: 8T1 035 110 C
   Component: MP3-Changer     H43 0390  
   Revision: 00043003    Serial number: AUZ5ZBH8547276
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2A5BCDF28526DC4EE53-807F

No fault code found.

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Address 0F: Digital Radio        Labels: 4E0-910-593-SIR.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 593 M    HW: 4E0 035 593 F
   Component: SDAR SIRIUS     H07 0160  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: AUZ4Z7H0383037
   Coding: 0000100
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 3169DA9EA8F0AF96249-8064

1 Fault Found:
02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated 
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 233
                    Mileage: 73204 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.04.01
                    Time: 08:34:49


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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 8K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 959 655 F    HW: 8K0 959 655 F
   Component: AirbagVW-AU10 H27 0410  
   Serial number: 0039KD1410Y%  
   Coding: 303333334330303030304A55304C38543053
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010 A02007
   ROD: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010_AU48.rod
   VCID: 408F8F5ADB5A361EDB7-8015

   Seat occupied recognition: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 339     HW: 8K0 959 339 
   Component: BF-Gewichtss.  H01 0050 
   Serial number: 5810000R08000018BT

   Crash sensor for side airbag; driver side: 
   Serial number: 6334MSME35006D79G

   Crash sensor for side airbag; passenger side: 
   Serial number: 6344MSME3F20417CI

   Crash sensor for side airbag; rear driver side: 
   Serial number: 6352QSME540033361

   Crash sensor for side airbag; rear passenger side: 
   Serial number: 6362QSME53000B3AA

   Crash sensor for front airbag; driver side: 
   Serial number: 63732SME4B043F30$

   Crash sensor for front airbag; passenger side: 
   Serial number: 63832SME61002F0AY

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 8K0-953-568.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 953 568 F    HW: 8K0 953 568 F
   Component: Lenks.Modul   H13 0013  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 90304HHE0007T 
   Coding: 000016
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 3D71F6AEA4A85BF6B01-8068

   Component: E221 - MFL  H02 0003 

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 8T0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 920 981 E    HW: 8T0 920 981 E
   Component: KOMBIINSTR.   H30 0224  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 9D9622A88     
   Coding: 831501000300D705020000
   Shop #: WSC 02621 444 17647
   VCID: 3E73F1A2A9AE40EEA9B-806B

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 8T0-907-468.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 907 468 K    HW: 8T0 907 468 K
   Component: GW-BEM 4CAN-M H09 0092  
   Revision: EB302042    Serial number: 4200E088048079
   Coding: 000303
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 4999927EE060F7560C9-801C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 915 181 B    HW: 8K0 915 181 B
   Component: J367-BDM  H04 0150 

No fault code found.

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Address 1E: Media Player 2 (R199)       Labels: 4E0-035-785.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 035 785 F    HW: 4E0 035 785 C
   Component: SG ext.Player H15 0850  
   Revision: 00000000    
   Coding: 020000
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 2B55C8F64ADCC5461E5-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr (J136)       Labels: 8T0-959-760.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 959 760 B    HW: 8T0 959 760 B
   Component: MEM-FS        H09 0043  
   Revision: AA000000    Serial number: 00001001129050
   Coding: 00197325002C00000000
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 428B8552DD56240ECD3-8017

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation        Labels: 4E0-910-88x-37.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 888 M    HW: 4E0 919 887 M
   Component: MNS US          H51 1100  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 341HO087511923
   Shop #: WSC 06342 000 00000
   VCID: 387FE7BA4B8A7EDE637-806D

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels: 8K0-959-793.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 959 793     HW: 8K0 959 793 
   Component: TSG FA        H09 0149  
   Revision:             Serial number: AX
   Coding: 011C03224E002201
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: FDF1B6AE64281BF6701-80A8

1 Fault Found:
02123 - Door Warning Light / Entry Light 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101100
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 109
                    Mileage: 75886 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.05.07
                    Time: 22:01:23


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Address 46: Central Conv. (J393)       Labels: 8K0-907-064-46.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 F    HW: 8K0 907 064 F
   Component: BCM2 1.1      H80 0141  
   Revision: 00002001    Serial number: 0113745169    
   Coding: 0102069A007A444400B000
   Shop #: WSC 02621 444 17647
   VCID: 3365D09692EC9D86565-8066

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 719     HW: 8K0 959 719 
   Component: GTO BF  H06 0040 

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H03 1301 

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8R0 959 591     HW: 8R0 959 591 
   Component: J245EE16SKB10  H01 0180 

No fault code found.

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Address 47: Sound System (J525)       Labels: 8T0-035-223-ASM.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 035 223 AD    HW: 8T0 035 223 G
   Component: DSP STD       H08 0300  
   Revision: S2600000    
   Coding: 020101
   Shop #: WSC 02621 444 176472
   VCID: 70EF1F9AA37AE69E6B7-8025

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels: 8K0-959-792.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 959 792     HW: 8K0 959 792 
   Component: TSG BF        H09 0149  
   Revision:             Serial number: eU
   Coding: 011C03224E002201
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: FCF7BBAA7F3212FE47F-80A9

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake (J540)       Labels: 8K0-907-801-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 801 E    HW: 8K0 907 801 E
   Component: EPB Audi B8   H05 0060  
   Revision: 00000003    Serial number: 10000000078316
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 3169DA9E68F0AF96249-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Xenon Range        Labels: 8K0-907-357.clb
   Part No: 8K0 907 357 B
   Component: Dynamische LWR  H01 0030  
   Revision: 00000001    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0000002
   Shop #: WSC 06324 000 00000
   VCID: 3467D38A57E29ABE4FF-8061

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 4E0-910-541.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 541 T    HW: 4F0 035 541 N
   Component: TUNER EU/US/RDW H42 0630  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 357H 087507682
   Coding: 0000002
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 3169DA9EA8F0AF96249-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 65: Tire Pressure (J502)       Labels: 8K0-907-273.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 273 A    HW: 8K0 907 273 A
   Component: J502-RDK      H03 0250  
   Revision: 00001001    Serial number: 13140781525422
   Coding: 0CD154
   Shop #: WSC 06324 000 00000
   VCID: 306FDF9A63FAA69E2B7-8065

1 Fault Found:
02214 - Tire Pressure Warning 
            000 - - - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 100
                    Mileage: 75828 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.05.07
                    Time: 11:34:53

             Freeze Frame:
                        40.78
                    Bin. Bits: 00001000 00100011
                    Voltage: 14.20 V
                    Text:  14,5°C; -0,38bar;3456986253;00h;  9°C


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Address 67: Voice Control        Labels: 4E0-910-75x-67.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 754 Q    HW: 4E0 035 753 A
   Component: SDS 3501 US     H46 0630  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000807290057
   Shop #: WSC 12336 024 394758
   VCID: 3467D38A57E29ABE4FF-8061

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone        Labels: 4E0-910-336.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 336 H    HW: 4E0 862 335 
   Component: Handyvorb2      H20 1130  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000005054612
   Coding: 0010900
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 285F37FA9B2AEE5EF37-807D

No fault code found.

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If I had any sage words of wisdom, I'd post them here. :)

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Thanks Uwe, I'll update the thread once I visit the Dealer. I'm scheduled for Monday the 20th. Stefan
 
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So, what Audi owners such as myself need to do is to change the CCM to a updated version (8K0 907 064 CQ) ; my current CCM is 8K0 064 064 F . I understand that the CQ version supports A4,A5, and RS5's 2010 and up. In short I need to take the car into the Audi Dealer to have the new CCM coded. (Immobilizer etc.)
Probably right about that, but have you tried to code your current CCM [46] for rear spoiler: 0102069A007AC44400B000
If it is accepted.
Post data from the new CCM [46] you have installed.
Your current CCM Coding is 11 Byte long, the new ones are 16 Byte long.
Also 8K0 907 064 FF version use Spoiler on a RS5

Remember to change non-zero values in wsc, importer, device no., like explained here before accept coding.
 
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OK NE, will try. I will also post report and scan of new install CCM 46 once completed! Thanks for the reply, Stefan
 
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Update: CCM [46] 8K0 907 064 CQ had to come from Germany. ETA is 4/27/2015 however it may arrive sooner. If so, will visit dealer for coding that Mon. 4/27 ; if not, then will try for the following Monday. "fingers crossed" ! Stefan
 
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Update to last Update: Back on track and I picked up the CCM Module from the dealer. Scheduled a appt. for coding on 5/4/15. Will update post that afternoon.

By the way, the part number for the console switch for the override function of the spoiler is (US spec LHD vehicles) is 8K1927521V10 ; However, if you are for example in the UK (RHD vehicle) the part number is 8K2........
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Well, the Audi Dealer visit didn't produce any result as the Service Manager wouldn't allow it to be performed. Once the technician told him that the immobilizer would be involved and that the car could be "locked down" if there were any problems, the visit ended. I may try to find another Audi Dealer who is "Mod and retro-fit friendly", but other than that it looks like I'm stuck. I may also try to find a electronic person who would be willing to hard wire the spoiler to a switch, I could then manually raise it at will.
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Well, the Audi Dealer visit didn't produce any result as the Service Manager wouldn't allow it to be performed. Once the technician told him that the immobilizer would be involved and that the car could be "locked down" if there were any problems, the visit ended.
<SMH> Gotta love the fact that dealers have such a high degree of confidence in their abilities. What if the CCM were defective and needed replacing?

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HI Uwe, good to hear from you. Yes, I mentioned that very issue to the service adviser (the manager wouldn't come out and talk to me personally). I think if it were the same part number as originally equipped, then they would be obligated to service it. I also stated that so , you lock it down.....its your technology; open it back up! The adviser mentioned that it would make the dealership look bad. (eh-hmmm, they already "look bad"). He then mentioned that the Manager doesn't like "Mods" ; I stated , Its ALL Audi 100%. Not much I could do.

I did make contact with a local Audiophile who is willing to wire it up for manual function; I'll keep the post updated. Then, in my email inbox guess what I received : the dealer wanted me to fill out a survay of how I was treated and what my experience was like! (now, that's balls!).

Hope to have more news soon. Thanks again, Stefan
 
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Surely they could have just stuck the original CCM back in if it all ended up being beyond their capabilities? After all, you would be paying for any time they spent doing that anyway. That was probably too obvious for them.

It might be worth trying to find an independent who has AVDI and is competent at using it.
 
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It might be worth trying to find an independent who has AVDI and is competent at using it.
Such people are few and far between in the US, where VW/Audi is very much a niche brand (totaling less than 5% of the cars sold here).

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Such people are few and far between in the US, where VW/Audi is very much a niche brand (totaling less than 5% of the cars sold here).

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To further Uwe's point, VAG sales in the US are less than 6% of VAG world sales.
 
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Very funny! That's about all I can do at this point. I think a scene of humor at this point is helpful!! Anyway, thanks for the stats Bruce as I didn't hear from KAP diag. . Plan on leaving the entire electrical harnesses intact as some day a coded / updated CCM may occur as I only need to find ONE Audi Dealer willing to participate ; for now the audio/"electrophile" zealot is intrigued with the challenge of creating a manual switched circuit and that is still in play (thankfully) !
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as some day a coded / updated CCM may occur

Not likely my friend 09 model, out of warranty, they done with it. I'll look into your problem but no time now, later on this week, regards.

Andy
 
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Thanks Andy, ok - understand the "out of warranty". Appreciate any input and attention as you never know what may "shake loose". I'll continue to update the thread with my "analog" strategy. Thanks again all, Stefan
 
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Can you tell us what did you get in that retrofit kit from Europe ?
 
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