NZ - Touran wants an R32 engine
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Yeah... I was thinking that.
I have to have it in an enclosure anyway, but I'd still vent the box under the car - just in case.
Because it's in the cabin, it has to be sealed, and I'd like to minimise the chances of leakage in an accident :-D
I have to have it in an enclosure anyway, but I'd still vent the box under the car - just in case.
Because it's in the cabin, it has to be sealed, and I'd like to minimise the chances of leakage in an accident :-D
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One Shiney... one not so much.
Apparently the new one was made in Spain, October 2015. The old one is German!
I reckon I might store "one" of them in the safe :-) It's quite familiar with car parts
No other single item has cost what the new ECU was... Only the Touran itself, and the A3 donor were more, and they have both provided quite a number of useful parts
The new clutch and flywheel for Mrs DubNurds BMW arrived today too... so that will probably take priority
especially if it actually gives up!
Apparently the new one was made in Spain, October 2015. The old one is German!
I reckon I might store "one" of them in the safe :-) It's quite familiar with car parts
No other single item has cost what the new ECU was... Only the Touran itself, and the A3 donor were more, and they have both provided quite a number of useful parts
The new clutch and flywheel for Mrs DubNurds BMW arrived today too... so that will probably take priority
especially if it actually gives up!
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Still not much happening. Air cleaner is almost installed - just a couple of bits to arrive:
Installed badges that mimic the original "2.0 FSI" badge layout/style, but are correct
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4Motion badge is still coming, and I can't fit that yet - It's not yet 4motion
Not 100% sure on it's location yet, but I want it to seem like it's factory fitted.
Installed badges that mimic the original "2.0 FSI" badge layout/style, but are correct
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4Motion badge is still coming, and I can't fit that yet - It's not yet 4motion
Not 100% sure on it's location yet, but I want it to seem like it's factory fitted.
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Wow, that looks VERY clean!
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Perfect !!!!!!
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Thanks Guys :-)
Do you like my "medical grade" breather hose??? A peice of ventilator silicome hose
Do you like my "medical grade" breather hose???
A peice of ventilator silicome hose
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OK, I lied.
I got bored, waiting for stuff, and the 4motion badge arrived:
I blu-tacked it in a few places, before deciding this was MY choice for most-OEM location
It annoys me that the 3.2 badge has the little joining parts in it, though the 2.0 badge was the same, so it's still OEM-esque. Chances are 99% of people won't even see it, and the other 1% will wonder what dumbass decided to change the stickers on a Touran. Those 3 badges cost more than the USED ECU I got, and now ANOTHER used ECU is available really cheap! I considered buying that too - "Dollar-Cost Averaging", but it's gone already anyway.
I got bored, waiting for stuff, and the 4motion badge arrived:
I blu-tacked it in a few places, before deciding this was MY choice for most-OEM location
It annoys me that the 3.2 badge has the little joining parts in it, though the 2.0 badge was the same, so it's still OEM-esque. Chances are 99% of people won't even see it, and the other 1% will wonder what dumbass decided to change the stickers on a Touran. Those 3 badges cost more than the USED ECU I got, and now ANOTHER used ECU is available really cheap! I considered buying that too - "Dollar-Cost Averaging"
, but it's gone already anyway.
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This car is going to get an exhaust loud enough so that anyone who's behind it will realize it's not a 4-banger right?
It should be audible, at least once the exhaust flap opens
At this stage it's looking to be a mix of R32 exhaust to the rear, then the Touran rear muffler (same as Golf/GTi) with an internal bypass on one pipe, connected to the R32 flapper. It'll have hidden tips.
I suspect it will still sound remarkably like a MK5 R32.
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So, I can confirm that fitting the manual trans ECU clears the ABS fault, where the ABS is looking for the missing TCU.
I also performed my first successful IMMO adaptation, matching my used R32 manual ECU to the R32 cluster I already had. When I tried to adapt the used ECU to the Touran Cluster (to gain the correct VIN), I got a "System not OK" error though.
I'd still like to get the Touran VIN into the ECU and cluster, but I'm not sure if it's possible through conventional means... It may require direct reading and fiddling the EEPROMs etc.
Anyway, my latest scan:
No unexpected fault codes now! Current codes are for pre-existing conditons (not caused by me!), or something there is already a solution for
I've also installed the AWD rear subframe and rear suspension - not too far to go now! Lucky, because my Mrs is pretty grumpy about it all now.
Plus, its our only car with a towbar and the boys want dirtbikes
I also performed my first successful IMMO adaptation, matching my used R32 manual ECU to the R32 cluster I already had. When I tried to adapt the used ECU to the Touran Cluster (to gain the correct VIN), I got a "System not OK" error though.
I'd still like to get the Touran VIN into the ECU and cluster, but I'm not sure if it's possible through conventional means... It may require direct reading and fiddling the EEPROMs etc.
Anyway, my latest scan:
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Monday,17,April,2017,16:22:03:42165
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 17.1.3.0 (x64)
Data version: 20170320 DS267.7
www.Ross-Tech.com
Workshop Code: 123 12345 045678
VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ6W124470 License Plate:
Mileage: 71240km-44266mi Repair Order:
Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 22 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 72
VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ6W124470 Mileage: 71240km-44266miles
00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
22-AWD -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine Labels: 022-906-032-BDB.lbl
Part No SW: 022 906 032 CD HW:
Component: MOTRONIC ME7.1.1 7802
Revision: --H01--- Serial number: VWZ7Z0E3138758
Coding: 0000172
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 45678
VCID: 4FAD5C06DE79993920-801A
No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000
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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-A.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AB HW: 1K0 907 379 AB
Component: ESP 4MOTION MK60 0102
Revision: 00H13001
Coding: 0004738
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 72EBF5F26D0B94D1EF-8026
6 Faults Found:
01486 - System Function Test Activated
000 - -
01279 - Longitudinal Acceleration Sensor (G251)
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
01435 - Brake Pressure Sensor 1 (G201)
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
01423 - Lateral Acceleration Sensor (G200)
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
01324 - Control Module for All Wheel Drive (J492)
004 - No Signal/Communication
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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl
Part No: 1K0 907 044 BD
Component: ClimatronicPQ35 090 0808
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 6ADBED9245DB5C1157-803E
1 Fault Found:
01274 - Air Flow Flap Positioning Motor (V71)
000 - -
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 3C0-937-049-23-M.lbl
Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 D HW: 3C0 937 049 D
Component: Bordnetz-SG H37 1002
Revision: 00H37000 Serial number: 00000005382893
Coding: 008D0F210004100000120C000000000000097B075C
Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
VCID: 2A5B2D92855B9C1197-807E
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 955 119 C Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
Component: Wischer VW358 012 0401
Coding: 00063445
Shop #: WSC 01324
No fault code found.
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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 1T0-909-605.lbl
Part No SW: 1T0 909 605 C HW: 1T0 909 605 C
Component: 02 AIRBAG VW62 0506 1500
Revision: 09025000 Serial number: 0038BD0H4NRK
Coding: 0012338
Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
VCID: 35610EEE5CE5C3E90A-8060
2 Faults Found:
01218 - Side Airbag Igniter; Passenger Side (N200)
001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - MIL ON
01228 - Airbag Cut-Off Switch for Passenger Side (E224)
008 - Implausible Signal - MIL ON
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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AF HW: 1K0 953 549 AF
Component: Lenksäulenmodul 034 0070
Coding: 0000042
Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
VCID: 76E3C9E2016388F1C3-8022
No fault code found.
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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
Part No: 1K6 920 862 F
Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 4316
Coding: 0001103
Shop #: WSC 00070 824 83288
VCID: 336530F65291DDD924-8066
2 Faults Found:
00771 - Fuel Level Sensor (G)
010 - Open or Short to Plus
00438 - Fuel Supply Sensor 2 (G169)
010 - Open or Short to Plus
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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 1K0-907-530-V1.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 F HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: Gateway H10 0120
Revision: H10 Serial number: 2800106127113D
Coding: BD3F0340078003
Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
VCID: 2A5B2D92855B9C1197-807E
1 Fault Found:
01324 - Control Module for All Wheel Drive (J492)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 24
Reset counter: 125
Mileage: 71127 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 15:42:18
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Address 22: AWD
Cannot be reached
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Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No: 1K6 920 862 F
Component: IMMO VDD 4316
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 336530F65291DDD924-8066
No fault code found.
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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN2.lbl
Part No: 1T0 959 701 B
Component: Tuer-SG 024 2302
Coding: 0000692
Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
VCID: 366309E241E3C8F103-8062
1 Fault Found:
00943 - Heated Exterior Mirror; Driver Side (Z4)
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V2.clb
Part No: 1K2 909 144 K
Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.0 D06 1701
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 346733EA579FDAE13D-8060
2 Faults Found:
02546 - Steering Limit Stop
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
Freeze Frame:
Mileage: 3280 km
Temperature: 18.0°C
Voltage: 12.30 V
Voltage: 12.20 V
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
Freeze Frame:
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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 1K0-959-433-MIN.clb
Part No: 1K0 959 433 AK
Component: KSG 0401
Coding: 00C802087F2D8405485FC61010CC
Shop #: WSC 00010 824 05318
VCID: 79F9C2DE307DE789AE-802C
Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1K0 947 291 F
Component: Innenraumueberw.009 4809
Coding: 00000000
Shop #: WSC 00000
Subsystem 6 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301
Subsystem 7 - Part No: 1K0 907 719 C
Component: Neigungssensor 005 0003
No fault code found.
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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN2.lbl
Part No: 1T0 959 702 B
Component: Tuer-SG 024 2302
Coding: 0000692
Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
VCID: 377D04E646E931F918-8062
No fault code found.
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Address 56: Radio Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
Part No: 1K0 035 186 P
Component: Radio GR0 015 0019
Revision: 0001503S Serial number: VWZ2Z2F3751220
Coding: 0040400
Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
VCID: 336530F65291DDD924-8066
No fault code found.
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Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN2.lbl
Part No: 1K0 959 703 E
Component: Tuer-SG 021 2428
Coding: 0000144
Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
VCID: 326B35F2AD8BD4D12F-8066
No fault code found.
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Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN2.lbl
Part No: 1K0 959 704 E
Component: Tuer-SG 021 2428
Coding: 0000144
Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
VCID: 336530F65291DDD924-8066
No fault code found.
End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 01:47)--------------------------No unexpected fault codes now! Current codes are for pre-existing conditons (not caused by me!), or something there is already a solution for
I've also installed the AWD rear subframe and rear suspension - not too far to go now! Lucky, because my Mrs is pretty grumpy about it all now.
Plus, its our only car with a towbar and the boys want dirtbikes
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Well...That was 2 hours of my life I'll never get back!
Turns out that editing the immo data in the Immo/cluster to get the right VIN is the WRONG way to do it! I had to change it all back, the re-adapt the immo...
But I now have 3 matched remotes, 3 matched transponders and 2 matching blades - just have to get 1 more cut, to have 3 fully working keys!
Turns out that editing the immo data in the Immo/cluster to get the right VIN is the WRONG way to do it! I had to change it all back, the re-adapt the immo...
But I now have 3 matched remotes, 3 matched transponders and 2 matching blades - just have to get 1 more cut, to have 3 fully working keys!
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I think I need a new holesaw
I was making the exhaust "safer and more fuel efficient"... by increasing the internal flow rate. For the 3rd hole, I had to use the hammer setting on my drill It's exhaust grade stainless, so pretty hard to drill!
I'm actually using the Touran rear muffler, and integrating the flapper valve from the R32 muffler, so in "sensible" mode, the car will be fairly quiet and muffled by the rear muffler, using a single 2.25" outlet. When the flapper opens (apparently after certain RPM, and throttle openings) it will be a bit more grunty sounding, but a bit quieter than the original R32.
The holes above are to allow more exhaust into the "quiet" side, but also increase the flow direct to the flapper valve, when it opens.
^ This is the big hole I still have to fill - one exhaust section and one driveshaft to lengthen 100mm, and a large custom fuel tank Hopefully about 30% more capacity too.
^ This is my battery mount: There are 2 25mm alloy box section across the sides of the plate, and 6 bolts through a double skinned part of the floor. Then 3 stainless hex bar uprights are bolted through the bottom plate, and an alloy bracket bolts onto them, clamping the battery firmly in place. The large (75mm2!) positive cable comes out of the enclosure, through a factory grommet location in the floor, and up the chassis rail, as per the R32 Golf.
It will have a euro DIN battery, with the vent hose routed out of the enclosure, through the floor and vent to atmosphere, as per standard euro trunk or under seat installs. The battery will actually be an AGM, though they still have the hose. I just got one for Mrs DubNurds BMW - usually NZ$252... NZ$145 - a friend owns an auto electrician shop
The seat just clears the top cover of the battery enclosure, and changing the battery will involve removing the seat! I'll leave the required tool in the car for that, though there is a jump start post under the bonnet anyway.
The battery protrudes slightly into the passnger footwell, but not enough to be awkward. Because of the upright seating in the touran, the seats are never all the way back, and I'm big (both directions)!
^ I'm looking forward to cleaning this lot up!
I was making the exhaust "safer and more fuel efficient"... by increasing the internal flow rate. For the 3rd hole, I had to use the hammer setting on my drill
It's exhaust grade stainless, so pretty hard to drill!
I'm actually using the Touran rear muffler, and integrating the flapper valve from the R32 muffler, so in "sensible" mode, the car will be fairly quiet and muffled by the rear muffler, using a single 2.25" outlet. When the flapper opens (apparently after certain RPM, and throttle openings) it will be a bit more grunty sounding, but a bit quieter than the original R32.
The holes above are to allow more exhaust into the "quiet" side, but also increase the flow direct to the flapper valve, when it opens.
^ This is the big hole I still have to fill - one exhaust section and one driveshaft to lengthen 100mm, and a large custom fuel tank
Hopefully about 30% more capacity too.
^ This is my battery mount: There are 2 25mm alloy box section across the sides of the plate, and 6 bolts through a double skinned part of the floor. Then 3 stainless hex bar uprights are bolted through the bottom plate, and an alloy bracket bolts onto them, clamping the battery firmly in place. The large (75mm2!) positive cable comes out of the enclosure, through a factory grommet location in the floor, and up the chassis rail, as per the R32 Golf.
It will have a euro DIN battery, with the vent hose routed out of the enclosure, through the floor and vent to atmosphere, as per standard euro trunk or under seat installs. The battery will actually be an AGM, though they still have the hose. I just got one for Mrs DubNurds BMW - usually NZ$252... NZ$145 - a friend owns an auto electrician shop
The seat just clears the top cover of the battery enclosure, and changing the battery will involve removing the seat! I'll leave the required tool in the car for that, though there is a jump start post under the bonnet anyway.
The battery protrudes slightly into the passnger footwell, but not enough to be awkward. Because of the upright seating in the touran, the seats are never all the way back, and I'm big (both directions)!
^ I'm looking forward to cleaning this lot up!
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Yeah "Bamboo Gray"... Isn't that the same as yours???
I've been secretly stalking you on the internet
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this sameYeah "Bamboo Gray"... Isn't that the same as yours???
I've been secretly stalking you on the internet
one of famous color in 2005
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Excuse the mess... I haven't had the maid in for a while!
I want a battery isolator fitted so I don't need to remove the seat, to get to the battery, just for working on the car etc.
It's fitted to the battery ground, so I don't have the risk of it shorting out and causing a fire (75mm2 cable!) There is a 300A time delay fuse at the battery anyway. The switch is a marine unit, rated at 300A continuous, and 1250A cranking.
After cutting a hole and removing the insulation under the carpet... TaDaaaaa!
I want a battery isolator fitted so I don't need to remove the seat, to get to the battery, just for working on the car etc.
It's fitted to the battery ground, so I don't have the risk of it shorting out and causing a fire (75mm2 cable!) There is a 300A time delay fuse at the battery anyway. The switch is a marine unit, rated at 300A continuous, and 1250A cranking.
After cutting a hole and removing the insulation under the carpet... TaDaaaaa!
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Well... after doing nothing for ages... I acheived... very little
Driveshaft safety loops: A New Zealand modification Certification requirement for a modified driveshaft, One done (still needs tidying), still a front one to go!
Exhaust frankensteined: Touran rear muffler, cut open, modified inside, flapper valve added and connected up to R32 4motion mid section - Better damn well sound OK, after the work involved!
Turns out I should have worn my safety Jandals (thongs) too...
... it's a LOT deeper than it looks, and the hot bit of stainless tube stuck there when I lifted my foot up
I go barefoot a lot
Driveshaft safety loops: A New Zealand modification Certification requirement for a modified driveshaft, One done (still needs tidying), still a front one to go!
Exhaust frankensteined: Touran rear muffler, cut open, modified inside, flapper valve added and connected up to R32 4motion mid section - Better damn well sound OK, after the work involved!
Turns out I should have worn my safety Jandals (thongs) too...
... it's a LOT deeper than it looks, and the hot bit of stainless tube stuck there when I lifted my foot up
I go barefoot a lot
Looks pretty good NZDubNurd!
Driveshaft safety loops? Too bad that in so many places, Big Brother is implementing so many "creativity-crushing" laws! We don't have all of that in my area ... YET!
Do you know what I've learned about doing projects like this? ... When you begin a project, you've got energy and a fresh NEW vision! But when you're coming down the home stretch ... it's the HARDEST place to get motivated!
Press on to the finish line my friend!
Driveshaft safety loops? Too bad that in so many places, Big Brother is implementing so many "creativity-crushing" laws! We don't have all of that in my area ... YET!
Do you know what I've learned about doing projects like this? ... When you begin a project, you've got energy and a fresh NEW vision! But when you're coming down the home stretch ... it's the HARDEST place to get motivated!
Press on to the finish line my friend!
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There was a BIG gap in the middle, with little productivity - enthusiam has been renewed though!
Otherwise, I'm driving a '72 Beetle right through summer ... Though that will probably still happen!
Otherwise, I'm driving a '72 Beetle right through summer
... Though that will probably still happen!