2008 Jetta A/C Diag. question

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A/c not working.

Trying to make sense of how to know if the control valve or the compressor is at fault

The shut off code =6
Compressor current (actual) = blank
Compressor current (specified) = 0.820 A
Comp. load 4.8Nm.
Refrig. pres. = 10.0 bar

I checked the resistance = 11 ohms
 
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The A/C has no codes, but here's the scan;

Code:
Thursday,05,July,2018,19:47:00:34163
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86
VCDS Version: 18.2.0.3
Data version: 20180212 DS287.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: 3VWRA71K08M161709   License Plate: 


Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0F 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 65 72

VIN: 3VWRA71K08M161709   Mileage: 157710km-97996miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
0F-Digital Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: Sporadic communication error 1000
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: Malfunction 0010
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (CBF)       Labels:. 06J-907-115-CBF.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 115 AD    HW: 1K0 907 115 AD
   Component: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI     0060  
   Revision: E3H12---    Serial number: VWX7Z0H32430W3
   Coding: 040301081C070160
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 68DF98F15BF6A804B0-803C

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 02E-927-770.clb
   Part No SW: 02E 300 050 J    HW: 02E 927 770 AD
   Component: GSG DSG         082 1413  
   Revision: 05108020    Serial number: 00001008301768
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 04940 001 00001
   VCID: 1939ED35D01CC18CFF-804C

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AC    HW: 1K0 907 379 AC
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0101  
   Revision: 00H11001    
   Coding: 0021122
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 73E5FF9D12305BDC15-8026

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 820 047 HJ    HW: 1K0 820 047 HJ
   Component: Climatic PQ35   141 1010  
   Revision: 00141028    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 73E5FF9D12305BDC15-8026

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-30-M.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 AH    HW: 3C0 937 049 AH
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H54 2202  
   Revision: 00H54000    Serial number: 00000000895639
   Coding: 04058E230004150007140000001400008008730B5C000100000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00066 123 12345
   VCID: 6FEDF3ED7E187F3CF1-803A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K1 955 119 E  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 050408 021  0501  
   Coding: 00038805
   Shop #: WSC 00066  

No fault code found.

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Address 0F: Digital Radio        Labels: 8E0-035-593-SIR.lbl
   Part No SW: 8E0 035 593 M    HW: 8E0 035 593 M
   Component: SDAR SIRIUS     H07 0150  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: AUZ4Z7H0304057
   Coding: 0000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 33653F9D52B01BDCD5-8066

1 Fault Found:
02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated 
            000 -  - 
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 9
                    Reset counter: 234
                    Mileage: 145567 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 09:51:46


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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 AB    HW: 1K0 909 605 AB
   Component: 6A AIRBAG VW8R  034 8000  
   Revision: 05034000    Serial number: 003B6M04V6B8  
   Coding: 0013889
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 6CD7E4E14F0E8424D4-8038

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 959 339 F
   Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 007 0005

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6332MSME3676162CE

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6342MSME34207A59C

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6351HSME136D0D5AI

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 6361HSME136F2E4DQ

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 63727SME125B5443 

   Subsystem 7 - Serial number: 63827SME126C053C2

1 Fault Found:
02513 - Belt Force Sensor for Seat Occupied Recognition (G453) 
            003 - Mechanical Failure - Intermittent

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 BK    HW: 1K0 953 549 BK
   Component: J0527           051 0101  
   Coding: 0010021
   Shop #: WSC 06461 444 64437
   VCID: 7CF7D4A13F6E14A444-8028

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 920 954 P    HW: 1K0 920 954 P
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT 3HL 1222  
   Revision: V0002000    Serial number: VWX7Z0H32430W3
   Coding: 0021203
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 39790DB570DCE18C1F-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 L    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: J533  Gateway   H07 0052  
   Revision:   H07 01    Serial number: 210308F2002175
   Coding: ED807F070003021002
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 306F3091A3A620C4A8-8064

1 Fault Found:
01333 - Door Control Module; Rear Left (J388) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00110100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 127
                    Mileage: 154640 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 11:00:59


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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 920 954 P    HW: 1K0 920 954 P
   Component: IMMO            3HL 1222  
   Revision: V0002000    Serial number: VWX7Z0H32430W3
   Shop #: WSC 08228 444 102997
   VCID: 39790DB570DCE18C1F-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MIN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 701 P    HW: 1K0 959 793 L
   Component: J386  TUER-SG FT    1133  
   Revision: 32008001    Serial number: 00000066288224
   Coding: 0001205
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 3B7517BD7AE0D39C0D-806E

2 Faults Found:
01552 - Motor for Central Locking; Drivers Door (V56); Lock 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101100
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 115
                    Reset counter: 127
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Time Indication: 0

00928 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Front Driver Side (F220) 
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00111000
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 59
                    Reset counter: 127
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Time Indication: 0


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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V3.clb
   Part No: 1K1 909 144 M
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.070 H08 1901  
   Shop #: WSC 06461 444 64437
   VCID: 356101855CC405ECFB-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 CT    HW: 1K0 959 433 CT
   Component:    KSG PQ35 RDK 052 0221  
   Revision: 00052000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 0A900F880186683F0900858560880F0488DC80
   Shop #: WSC 08228 444 10299
   VCID: 0407AC41479E6C643C-8050

   Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted     

   Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     

   Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted     

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MIN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 702 P    HW: 1K0 959 792 L
   Component: J387  TUER-SG BT    1133  
   Revision: 32008001    Serial number: 00000667588317
   Coding: 0001204
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 3C7714A17FEED4A404-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 035 180 L    HW: 1K0 035 180 L
   Component: Radio DE2       016 0020  
   Revision: 00016000    Serial number: VWZ4Z7H2193200
   Coding: 0010401
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2959DDF5807C510C6F-807C

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels:. 1K0-959-703-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 Q    HW: 1K0 959 795 J
   Component: J388   TUER-SG HL   1120  
   Revision: 12006001    Serial number: 00000002893143
   Coding: 0001168
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 3E731EA969F2C6B42A-806A

No fault code found.

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Address 65: Tire Pressure        Labels: 3C0-959-433-65.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 CT    HW: 1K0 959 433 CT
   Component:    RDK              0450  
   Revision: 00052000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 0100100
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 0407AC41479E6C643C-8050

1 Fault Found:
01521 - Sensor for Tire Pressure 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 100
                    Mileage: 131848 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 05:56:22


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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels:. 1K0-959-704-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 Q    HW: 1K0 959 794 J
   Component: J389   TUER-SG HR   1120  
   Revision: 12006001    Serial number: 00000002935039
   Coding: 0001168
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 3F8D63AD6EF8CFBC21-806A

No fault code found.

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The shut off code =6

Hmm, Shut Off code = 06 - appears to be "The compressor has been switched off by the 'Econ' function."

Do you want to try hitting the 'Auto' button, or the 'A/C' button, or whatever you have? Report back please.
 
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Hmm, Shut Off code = 06 - appears to be "The compressor has been switched off by the 'Econ' function."

Do you want to try hitting the 'Auto' button, or the 'A/C' button, or whatever you have? Report back please.

The Code 6 is what I get when I turn the system off.........this is normal.

The line I'm confused on is; Compressor current (actual) = blank

The line that give me hope is: Comp. load 4.8Nm with A/C on.

BTW there is no change in the A/C gauges from A/C on to Off
 
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The Code 6 is what I get when I turn the system off.........this is normal.

Okay, I know, if you would do some more testing for us please. Does it go to '0' and stay at '0' for all of the time the A/C runs?
Does MVB 002.1 appear when A/C on?
Does MVB 003.1 change at all when A/C is on?
Using either intrusive current measurement or a hall-effect current clamp; does the current through the compressor control valve look anywhere near the Specified value?
 
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Sorry for the late reply.....it has a Denso compressor. Paint a white stripe on the very center of the comp. Mine didn't move. Comp. seized.
 
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Sorry for the late reply.....it has a Denso compressor. Paint a white stripe on the very center of the comp. Mine didn't move. Comp. seized.

- Compressor failures are a common issue in many of these vehicles., almost as common as the failing N280 valve ;) ... you should have a close look at the refrigerant oil, if it is NOT clear or clean, you should replace the filter dryer and flush the system.

This Ross-Tech forum post linked below, maybe helpful in the future :)

https://forums.ross-tech.com/showthread.php?633-Tis%92-the-HVAC-Season

Hope this helps, stay cool!

drpeter
 
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