Audi A3 8P(2005) cornering, languages (cluster) and hot start

FandaTDI · May 21, 2018

Hello,

I was triyng to activate cornering (BCM with long coding) but haven´t found it in coding - is it possible with this BCM?
2nd thing is language of instrument cluster - Is it possible to change it to czech language (btw. it is with PR-code "X1F = National sales program Czech Republic") or the czech language isn´t even present in the unit?
And is it possible to solve hot starts by the adaptation? (77kW BKP) I know that in case of older EDC(or MSA15) is it possible only by desoldering eeprom and reprogramming (if I want to lower the revs when ECU let the fuel to inject, not mentionig the start fuel amount in channel 5 with 12233 login) , btw. this EDC16 also accepts login 12233 (not in popup) and there are more channels with default value 8192, but not sure what exactly affects, so I´ve made also an adpmap and would appreciate some help.
Here is the autoscan (sorry for cs language but hopefully the main things understandable):

Code:

Sobota,19,Kviten,2018,11:34:53:12188
VCDS -- Windows VAG/VAS Emulator Biží na Windows 7 x64
VCDS verze: SVO 18.2.1.0  HEX-NET CB: 0.4411.4
Verze dat: 20170224 DS287.0
www.vag-com.cz

Jméno servisu: FH
Eíslo dílny: 444 12345 000001

VIN: WAUZZZ8P25A145848   Výrobní štítek: 


Model: 8P (1K0)
Sken: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 47 52 55 56 7D

VIN: WAUZZZ8P25A145848   Kilometry: 128110km

00-Snímae úhlu rízení -- stav: OK 0000
01-Motor -- stav: OK 0000
03-ABS brzdy -- stav: OK 0000
08-Klima/topení -- stav: OK 0000
09-Centrální elektrika -- stav: OK 0000
15-Airbagy -- stav: OK 0000
16-Elektronika volantu -- stav: Nefunkení 0010
17-Poístrojová deska -- stav: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- stav: OK 0000
25-Imobilizér -- stav: OK 0000
42-El. dveoí oidiee -- stav: OK 0000
44-Posilovae oízení -- stav: OK 0000
46-Komfort systém -- stav: OK 0000
47-Audio soustava -- stav: OK 0000
52-El. PP dveoí -- stav: OK 0000
55-Reg.sklonu svitel -- stav: OK 0000
56-Rádio -- stav: Nefunkení 0010
7D-Poídavné topení -- stav: OK 0000
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Adresa 01: Motor        Labely: User\03G-906-016-BKC.clb
   Oídící jednotka SW: 03G 906 016 CC    HW: 028 101 183 2
   Díl: R4 1,9L EDC 0000SG  6231  
   Revize: 12345678    Seriové eíslo: AUX7Z0E2FNE00P
   Kódování: 0000071
   Dílna #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 66805A9751485174BB-8032

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Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 

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Adresa 03: ABS brzdy        Labely: User\1K0-907-379-MK70.clb
   Oídící jednotka: 1K0 907 379 P
   Díl: ASR FRONT MK70      0105  
   Kódování: 0017025
   Dílna #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 3FCEAFF36E5220BC18-806A

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Adresa 08: Klima/topení        Labely: User\8P0-820-043.clb
   Oídící jednotka SW: 8P0 820 043 H    HW: 8P0 820 043 H
   Díl: KlimavollautomatH14 0180  
   Revize: 166113      Seriové eíslo: 8P0820043H    
   Dílna #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 312AF9CBA806C6CC9E-8064

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Adresa 09: Centrální elektrika        Labely:. 8P0-907-279-23-H.lbl
   Oídící jednotka SW: 8P0 907 279 C    HW: 8P0 907 279 C
   Díl: Bordnetz-SG     H37 0301  
   Revize: 00H37000    Seriové eíslo: 00000001636792
   Kódování: 018A4F168214100000000000000000000000FE0F5C
   Dílna #: WSC 29238 401 83621
   VCID: 3D32D5FB645E32AC0A-8068

   Subsystém 1 - Oídící jednotka: 8P1 955 119 B  Labely: SVO\1KX-955-119.CLB
   Díl: Wischer AU350   H01 0130  
   Kódování: 00062736
   Dílna #: WSC 29238  

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Adresa 15: Airbagy        Labely: 8P0-959-655-84.lbl
   Oídící jednotka SW: 8P0 959 655 E    HW: 8P0 959 655 E
   Díl: Airbag 8.4EDmin H00 0140  
   Kódování: 0010103
   Dílna #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 44C4A01F07B4436445-8010

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Adresa 16: Elektronika volantu        Labely: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Oídící jednotka SW: 1K0 953 549 F    HW: 1K0 953 549 F
   Díl: Lenksäulenmodul 021 0050  
   Kódování: 0000012
   Dílna #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 3522CDDB5C6EEAECC2-8060

1 nalezena chyba:
00888 - spinac stiracu pro intervalovy provoz (E22) 
            014 - defekt - Sporadická

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Adresa 17: Poístrojová deska        Labely: 8P0-920-xxx-17-MY7.lbl
   Oídící jednotka SW: 8P0 920 930 Q    HW: 8P0 920 930 Q
   Díl: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H73 0300  
   Revize: D06         Seriové eíslo: 2242ED06039853
   Kódování: 0004113
   Dílna #: WSC 00100 401 08723
   VCID: 40CCAC0F13AC5F4461-8014

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Adresa 19: CAN Gateway        Labely:. SVO\1K0-907-530-V1.clb
   Oídící jednotka SW: 1K0 907 530 D    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Díl: Gateway         H08 0100  
   Revize: 08          Seriové eíslo: 25001052280861
   Kódování: 7D0F0B42070100
   Dílna #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 281C14AF9BDC870449-807C

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Adresa 25: Imobilizér        Labely: SVO\1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Oídící jednotka SW: 8P0 920 930 Q    HW: 8P0 920 930 Q
   Díl: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H73 0300  
   Revize: D06         Seriové eíslo: AUX7Z0E2FNE00P
   Dílna #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 40CCAC0F13AC5F4461-8014

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Adresa 42: El. dveoí oidiee        Labely: 8P0-959-801-MIN1.lbl
   Oídící jednotka: 8P0 959 801 E
   Díl: Tuersteuerger.  H10 0040  
   Kódování: 0000048
   Dílna #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 3D32D5FB645E32AC0A-8068

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Adresa 44: Posilovae oízení        Labely: SVO\1Kx-909-144-G2V2.clb
   Oídící jednotka: 1K1 909 144 H
   Díl: EPS_ZFLS Kl.7       1502  
   Dílna #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 302CFCCFA30CCFC491-8064

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Adresa 46: Komfort systém        Labely: 8P0-959-433.lbl
   Oídící jednotka: 8P0 959 433 B
   Díl:    KSG          H03 0040  
   Kódování: 008000186D288505488A016000
   Dílna #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 3B36DBE37A4A3C9C34-806E

   Subsystém 1 - Díl:   Sounder n.mounted     

   Subsystém 2 - Díl:       NGS n.mounted     

   Subsystém 3 - Díl:      IRUE n.mounted     

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Adresa 47: Audio soustava        Labely: 8Px-035-382.lbl
   Oídící jednotka SW: 8P3 035 382     HW: 8P3 035 382 
   Díl: AB2 SUBWOOFERBOXH25 0160  
   Revize: 00003       Seriové eíslo: 10000001180205
   Dílna #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 70AC3CCF638C8FC4D1-8024

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Adresa 52: El. PP dveoí        Labely: 8P0-959-802-MIN1.lbl
   Oídící jednotka: 8P0 959 802 E
   Díl: Tuersteuerger.  H10 0040  
   Kódování: 0000048
   Dílna #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 3E30D2F7695829B413-806A

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Adresa 55: Reg.sklonu svitel        Labely: User\8P0-907-357.clb
   Oídící jednotka: 8P0 907 357 C
   Díl: Dynamische LWR  H01 0010  
   Revize: 00000000    Seriové eíslo:               
   Kódování: 0000001
   Dílna #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 3A38DEE7757005942F-806E

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Adresa 56: Rádio        Labely: 8P0-035-1xx-56.lbl
   Oídící jednotka SW: 8P0 035 186 C    HW: 8P0 035 186 C
   Díl: concert II EU   H51 0100  
   Revize:      01S    Seriové eíslo: AUZ2Z3E2161474
   Kódování: 0001001
   Dílna #: WSC 06435 000 00000
   VCID: 3228F6C7AD00FDD4E7-8066

2 závad nalezeno.
00856 - antena radioprijimace 
            011 - Preruseni
             info o závadi:
                    Stav závad: 01101011
                    Priorita závad: 5
                    Frekvence závad: 2
                    Poeítadlo resetu: 91
                    Kilometry: 118881 km
                    Indikace easu: 0
                    Datum: 2017.08.19
                    Eas: 11:34:43

00858 - spojeni: ZF vystupu radioprijimace k antennimu zesilovaci 
            007 - Zkrat na kostru - Sporadická
             info o závadi:
                    Stav závad: 00100111
                    Priorita závad: 5
                    Frekvence závad: 1
                    Poeítadlo resetu: 252
                    Kilometry: 127238 km
                    Indikace easu: 0
                    Datum: 2018.04.28
                    Eas: 13:38:35


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Adresa 7D: Poídavné topení        Labely: 1K0-963-235.lbl
   Oídící jednotka SW: 1K0 963 235 E    HW: 1K0 963 235 E
   Díl: PTC-Element         0404  
   Revize: 00800000    Seriové eíslo:               
   Dílna #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2D12E5BBB43EA22CBA-8078

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Konec-------(Uplynulý eas: 01:01, VBat zaeátek/konec: 12.2V/12.2V)---------

And I don´t see an option to attach the adpmaps, so I´ve uploaded it to ulozto.cz (can also elsewhere if needed), here is the link:

Code:

https://uloz.to/!eKew2pN1Yur7/adpmap-ecu-a3-8p1bj4-rar

Thanks for any help

hadez16 · May 22, 2018

starter RPM vs. injection level is managed by a real ecu map, not coding/adaptation.

FandaTDI · May 25, 2018

Yeah, you are probably right that comparing coding and adaptation is more "mixing apples and pears" than searching a context between mvb´s and adaptation channels ... Oh, you don´t wan´t to say this? Sorry, so what is the "real" purpose of answer you wrote? :confused:

So nobody knows (/won´t tell) more than is documented in adaptation of this ecu? I might also say that e.g. egr opening is also managed by a real ecu map and it might looks like adp channel 3 is a crap and that even MVB´s had nothing to do with a "real ecu map" :banghead:

It´s like saying that work ("reverse engineering") of manufacturer of any diagnostic tool (like VCDS and like searching for any context between channels...) is a waste of time, am I right, Uwe?

And you all might wonder that e.g. idle rpm are also managed by a real ecu map and now the biggest surprise - it can be (at least in some ecu´s, surprisingly even in those that cannot be flashed "by a wire"/without soldering and a programmer) also changed by an adaptation! ... Surprised? :-D

But ok and thanks for "pushing"! Like when the manufacturer and/or a dealer told me that I can´t learn a new ELV with VCDS ... and guess what? Yeah, you are right ... It can be done by a VCDS ;-) Say to nitwit that it is not possible and he´ll do it ... ;-)

hadez16 · May 25, 2018

Well, then, do it.

FandaTDI · May 28, 2018

Maybe the best answer, I provoked it ;-)
Ok, even if in this case can it be done also (as in case of older EDC´s) only by reflashing (maybe at least "by cable", depending on reliability of communication...), why so many adaptations? And without a description even if some values can be derived/deduced...Looked/know someone these adpmaps or have source of some description? But this probably isn´t the main issue and as I told the owner (which is a mechanic...), it offers more causes/reasons why it starts slighty longer mainly the hot start eventhough e.g. injection corrections and other common stuff is all right ... And when we are at this in case of PD injectors, what about the angle of injection and pressure limits with lower revs?

And what about the cornering? This BCM could know it or not yet?

And the cz language in the cluster isn´t even present or ... ?

hadez16 · May 28, 2018

Cornering with fog lights is possible.

Long coding, Byte 23, activate Bit 2 and Bit 3

FandaTDI · Jun 1, 2018

... so this BCM can not be set to cornering? Anyway thanks for an effort.

Audi A3 8P(2005) cornering, languages (cluster) and hot start

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