Passat 2009 EcoFuel misfire on gas!

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I have a Passat 2009 EcoFuel with misfire from cylinder 1 but only on gas operation and not on petrol. Is this a common problem or? I have never heard anyone else with this specific problem, but hope to get some advice. I have checked the connector and cables and they are fine, but no more then that.
Below is a complete scan from the car:

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VIN: WVWZZZ3CZ9E116858 License Plate: JRJ511
Mileage: 332850km-206823mi Repair Order:



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Chassis Type: 3C-N/A (3C0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 53 55 56 62 69
72

VIN: WVWZZZ3CZ9E116858 Mileage: 332850km-206823miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000

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Address 01: Engine (CDG) Labels: 03C-906-021-CDG.clb
Part No SW: 03C 906 021 A HW: 03C 906 021
Component: 4414 CNG N10E8 G 4522
Revision: E9H07--- Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
Coding: 0000077
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 19018ED9D09D628CFF-804C

2 Faults Found:
013153 - Misfire detected during Nat.Gas Operation
P3361 - 000 - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 5
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 332829 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2012.08.26
Time: 13:06:23

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 2138 /min
Load: 43.9 %
Speed: 36.0 km/h
Temperature: 24.0°C
Temperature: 6.0°C
Absolute Pres.: 980.0 mbar
Voltage: 0.000 V

013154 - Cylinder 1 Misfire detected during Nat.Gas Operation
P3362 - 000 - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 5
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 332829 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2012.08.26
Time: 13:06:23

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 2138 /min
Load: 43.9 %
Speed: 36.0 km/h
Temperature: 24.0°C
Temperature: 6.0°C
Absolute Pres.: 980.0 mbar
Voltage: 0.000 V

Readiness: 0110 0001

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Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 0AM-927-769.clb
Part No SW: 0AM 300 048 N HW: 0AM 927 769 D
Component: GSG DSG AG7 403 9032
Revision: 00040034 Serial number: TFK01009170915
Coding: 0000020
Shop #: WSC 33630 001 1048576
VCID: 3B4D74517A61709C0D-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 3C0-614-109-C4.clb
Part No SW: 3C0 614 109 AJ HW: 3C0 614 109 AJ
Component: J104 C4 440 V2 0016
Revision: --025--- Serial number: 00000795072888
Coding: 0004412
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 66FBF52551631D7482-8032

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 3C0-907-044.lbl
Part No SW: 3C0 907 044 DK HW: 3C0 907 044 DK
Component: ClimatronicPQ46 133 0909
Revision: 00133024 Serial number: 00000000000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 6DE98A0974952E2CC3-8038

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels:. 3C0-937-049-30-H.lbl
Part No SW: 3C8 937 049 E HW: 3C8 937 049 E
Component: Bordnetz-SG H54 2602
Revision: 00H54000 Serial number: 00000009362113
Coding: EA8E8F0700041A00470A00000F000000000A59435C000120000000000000
Shop #: WSC 05124 000 00000
VCID: 335D5C715231B8DCD5-8066

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3C1 955 419 A Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
Component: Wischer 281008 004 0206
Coding: 00046997
Shop #: WSC 05124

Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
Component: RLS 230209 054 0402
Coding: 00208936
Shop #: WSC 05124

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446) Labels:. 3C8-919-475.clb
Part No SW: 3C8 919 475 A HW: 3C8 919 475
Component: PARKHILFE 8K H07 0009
Revision: -------- Serial number: 08730902200650
Coding: 100102
Shop #: WSC 05314 000 00000
VCID: 325359756D2BB1D4DE-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 5N0-959-655.lbl
Part No SW: 5N0 959 655 J HW: 5N0 959 655 J
Component: J234__005 VW10 HI 1916
Revision: 20013000 Serial number: 003E2P324NWM
Coding: 0012341
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 44BF0FAD079F0F647C-8010

Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MTS686000339

Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MTS629600409

Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6351HTS6RBG006KR

Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6361HTS6EN6TV5KR

Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 00000000000000000

Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 00000000000000000

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 3C0-953-549-SW20.lbl
Part No SW: 3C0 953 549 AC HW: 3C0 953 549 AC
Component: J0527 0020
Revision: 00026000 Serial number: 3C9953507CN
Coding: 0001112
Shop #: WSC 05314 000 00000
VCID: 6DE98A0974952E2CC3-8038

Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
Component: E0221 002 0030

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels:| 3C8-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
Part No SW: 3C0 920 871 Q HW: 3C0 920 871 Q
Component: KOMBI H05 0110
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 160F00
Shop #: WSC 05314 115 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04040
ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW32.rod
VCID: 32535975652BB1D4DE-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels:. 3C0-907-530-V3.clb
Part No SW: 3C0 907 530 L HW: 3C0 907 951
Component: J533__Gateway H13 0152
Revision: H13 Serial number: 3300P092170A00
Coding: FDA17F46000202002002
Shop #: WSC 80093 222 69422
VCID: 2A63411585FBF91466-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 3C0-959-433-25.clb
Part No SW: 3C0 959 433 AR HW: 3C0 959 433 AR
Component: IMMO 043 0383
Revision: 00043000 Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
VCID: 7AC3B15535DB899456-802E

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3C0 905 861 G
Component: ELV 027 0380
3C0905861G ELV 027 0380

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MIN3.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 959 701 AC HW: 1K0 959 793 N
Component: J386 TUER-SG FT 1517
Revision: 72009005 Serial number: 00000540598120
Coding: 0000181
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 6FD590017E99DC3CF1-803A

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 5N1-909-144.clb
Part No SW: 5N1 909 144 J HW: 5N1 909 148 F
Component: J500__APA-BS KL.081 0502
Revision: 1AH02254 Serial number: 00090170134502
Coding: 0000258
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 39416E59705D428C1F-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels:. 3C0-959-433-46.clb
Part No SW: 3C0 959 433 AR HW: 3C0 959 433 AR
Component: KSG PQ46 ELV 043 0612
Revision: 00043000 Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
Coding: 0091020051030E763004941570084FCE707801
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 7AC3B15535DB899456-802E

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 D
Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H08 9001

Subsystem 2 - Part No: 3C0 951 171 C
Component: Neigungssensor 004 0611

Subsystem 3 - Part No: 3C0 951 171 C
Component: Innenraumueberw.004 0611

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MIN3.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 959 702 AC HW: 1K0 959 792 N
Component: J387 TUER-SG BT 1517
Revision: 72009005 Serial number: 00000515298119
Coding: 0000180
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 70D7937D63A7C3C4E8-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake Labels: 3AA-907-801.clb
Part No SW: 3AA 907 801 D HW: 3AA 907 801 D
Component: J540 EPB4 VW-53083 0006
Revision: H18 Serial number: 00000000108439
Coding: 0021057
Shop #: WSC 40605 222 999999
VCID: 32535975AD2BB1D4DE-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range Labels: 5M0-907-357-V2.lbl
Part No SW: 5M0 907 357 C HW: 5M0 907 357 C
Component: AFS-Steuergeraet 0136
Revision: 00H04000 Serial number:
Coding: 2311169
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 345F5F6D573FBFE4CC-8060

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 941 329 A Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul l 0004
Coding: 00000035

Subsystem 2 - Part No: 7L6 941 329 A Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul r 0004
Coding: 00000035

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J503) Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 035 186 AA HW: 1K0 035 186 AA
Component: Radio RCD310 012 0029
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: VWZ1Z2I6059237
Coding: 0500040004
Shop #: WSC 05314 000 00000
VCID: 65F9F2296C65166C8B-8030

1 Fault Found:
03138 - Input AUX IN
011 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101011
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 68
Mileage: 325586 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2012.01.09
Time: 13:14:34


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Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels:. 1K0-959-703-GEN3.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 AB HW: 1K0 959 795 L
Component: J388 TUER-SG HL 0307
Revision: 41004101 Serial number: 00000000811385
Coding: 0000144
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 70D7937D63A7C3C4E8-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 69: Trailer
Cannot be reached

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels:. 1K0-959-704-GEN3.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 AB HW: 1K0 959 794 L
Component: J389 TUER-SG HR 0307
Revision: 41004101 Serial number: 00000000816098
Coding: 0000144
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 71D1967968ADCACCE7-8024

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:11)--------------------------



Kind regard



//Kjell
 
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Sampson, I don't know JACK about NG system, "NO OFFENSE JACK", but how is it fired?, and noted 0 volts on that sector, again feel free to correct me, won't be the first time

013154 - Cylinder 1 Misfire detected during Nat.Gas Operation
P3362 - 000 - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 5
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 332829 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2012.08.26
Time: 13:06:23

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 2138 /min
Load: 43.9 %
Speed: 36.0 km/h
Temperature: 24.0°C
Temperature: 6.0°C
Absolute Pres.: 980.0 mbar
Voltage: 0.000 V

Readiness: 0110 0001
 
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Sampson, I don't know JACK about NG system, "NO OFFENSE JACK", but how is it fired?, and noted 0 volts on that sector, again feel free to correct me, won't be the first time

013154 - Cylinder 1 Misfire detected during Nat.Gas Operation
P3362 - 000 - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 5
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 332829 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2012.08.26
Time: 13:06:23

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 2138 /min
Load: 43.9 %
Speed: 36.0 km/h
Temperature: 24.0°C
Temperature: 6.0°C
Absolute Pres.: 980.0 mbar
Voltage: 0.000 V

Readiness: 0110 0001

Sampson, wanted to clarify. here at work propane (fork lifts) is ingested in a gaseous state and not as a liquid, as stated I don't know if this is pressurized ingested as a gas or liquid, just wanted to quantify that. If a gas then would infer no injector or 0 voltage was needed in the process.

Larimore
 
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A misfire is a misfire and this one just happens to be in NAT GAS mode.

Since NAT GAS will misfire much easier than liquid gas injection, I would focus on an air leak at the respective port or possible faulty spark plug or coil.
 
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You can try swapping the ignition coils between cylinders 1 and 2 or 1 and 3 to see whether the misfire moves to the other cylinders. If it does not, you can try moving spark plugs in the same way. If you're lucky, it will reveal your problem. If not, then a local dealer has been suggesting performing a compression check. If it fails the test, then the dealer will suggest replacing the cylinder head. The new one is said to come with optimized valve guides.
 
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You can try swapping the ignition coils between cylinders 1 and 2 or 1 and 3 to see whether the misfire moves to the other cylinders. If it does not, you can try moving spark plugs in the same way. If you're lucky, it will reveal your problem. If not, then a local dealer has been suggesting performing a compression check. If it fails the test, then the dealer will suggest replacing the cylinder head. The new one is said to come with optimized valve guides.


OP: that is great information above /\ from siLc.
 
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