Turn off 39 degree beep, mk6 GTI

TedJohnson · Mar 15, 2018

Apologies if this is a duplicate, I searched and couldn't find any hits.

How can I use VCDS (on my mk6 GTI, 2014) to turn off the beep that occurs when the car senses the temperature hits 39 degrees? Or alternatively, a way to lower the temperature at which it triggers? I've explored the various VCDS menus/options but can't find where this set.

Thanks in advance!

Code:

Wednesday,14,March,2018,20:33:09:09576
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 18.2.0.3 (x64)
Data version: 20180212 DS287.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVWHD7AJ2EW000268   License Plate: TCJ.GTI.MAR14.2018
Mileage: 49000km-30447mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: AJ-VW36 (7N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 1C 25 2E 42 44 46 52 56 62 72 77
         

VIN: WVWHD7AJ2EW000268   Mileage: 49000km-30447miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
1C-Position Sensing -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (CBF)       Labels:. 06J-907-115-CBF.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 115 AT    HW: 1K0 907 115 AK
   Component: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI     0020  
   Revision: E3H26---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 040301081C070160
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 78D111830BF6238420-802C

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 02E-927-770.clb
   Part No SW: 02E 300 058 P    HW: 02E 927 770 AL
   Component: GSG DSG AG6     521 3513  
   Revision: 05652104    Serial number: 00001307180293
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 277302FF96C87C7C79-8072

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BL    HW: 1K0 907 379 BL
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H31 0152  
   Revision: 00H31001    
   Coding: 114B600C492200FA880D06EA92210041B70800
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 7DDF0097E4D406AC73-8028

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels:| 3C8-907-336.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 426 BH    HW: 7N0 907 426 BH
   Component: AC Manuell    H20 0505  
   Revision: 00001019    
   Coding: 0010002002
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACManueBHBVW36X A01010
   ROD: EV_ACManueBHBVW36X_VW36.rod
   VCID: 7BDB0E8FF2C0089C4D-802E

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 937 086 T    HW: 1K0 937 086 T
   Component: BCM PQ35  M   111 0709  
   Revision: AC111709    
   Coding: 6F180A1A90252AC4008800C17000054448010386434D8D60648020200040
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 41A7BC67D8ACA24C57-8014

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5K1 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 20061  26  0512 
   Coding: 009795

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 5C0 959 655 M    HW: 5C0 959 655 M
   Component: AirbagVW10G   014 0726  
   Serial number: 003L4R02933T  
   Coding: 00004737
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360 001026
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360.rod
   VCID: 3C59CD93B74ECFA404-8068

   Seat occupied recognition: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 339 B    HW: 5K0 959 339 B
   Component: BF-Gewichtss.  006 0001 
   Serial number: ---0000R--00008FCN00

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354 
   Component: S.Sens.Fahr.V  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3572MSME68585478ZZZ1

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354 
   Component: S.Sens.Beif.V  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3582MSME6D585478ZZZ7

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
   Component: S.Sens.Fahr.H  --- ---- 
   Serial number: 3512QSME66483049ZZZV

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
   Component: S.Sens.Beif.H  --- ---- 
   Serial number: 3522QSME4A04321EZZZU

   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side: 
   Component: F.Sens.Fahr  --- ---- 
   Serial number: 35527SME5B755C2FZZZ 

   Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side: 
   Component: F.Sens.Beif  --- ---- 
   Serial number: 35627SME2C6E5C2FZZZ2

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5K0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 507 AH    HW: 5K0 953 549 B
   Component: Lenks.Modul   008 0090  
   Revision: --------    Serial number:  90440MGN000BG
   Coding: 189A140000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGKUDS A05001
   ROD: EV_SMLSNGKUDS_A05.rod
   VCID: 76CD1FBBC9E255F432-8022

   Multifunction steering wheel control module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542 B    HW: 5K0 959 542 B  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-TAS  H30 0032 
   Serial number: 0151632             
   Coding: 830000

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 5K6 920 973 C    HW: 5K6 920 973 C
   Component: KOMBI         H05 0705  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 270F01
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04716
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW36.rod
   VCID: 3753D2BF8E68ECFCE9-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 AF    HW: 7N0 907 530 AF
   Component: J533  Gateway H52 1634  
   Revision:   H52       Serial number: 200513F1000362
   Coding: 350002
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 74C925B3D79E47E40C-8020

No fault code found.

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Address 1C: Position Sensing        Labels: 1Kx-919-xxx-1C.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 919 879     HW: 5N0 919 879 
   Component: Kompass         002 0002  
   Revision: 00002000    Serial number: 1225223RP3TQ07
   Coding: 0000002
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 7EDD079B29D21DB46A-802A

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H05 0705  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03709
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
   VCID: 6AF53BCB8D5A8114A6-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels:. 5N0-035-342.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 G    HW: 5N0 035 342 G
   Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H19 0770  
   Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7665021244    
   Coding: 010100
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 2B7BFECF4A20581C9D-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MIN3.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 701 H    HW: 5K0 959 701 H
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2105  
   Coding: 0001204
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 3753D2BF4668ECFCE9-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 R
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 74     3501  
   Revision: 00H22000    
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 3957D487707CFA8C1F-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MIN3.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 702 H    HW: 5K0 959 702 H
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2105  
   Coding: 0001204
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 3851D1834B76E384E0-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 035 164 F    HW: 1K0 035 164 F
   Component: LOW NAR SDARS H03 0005  
   Revision: -----07S    Serial number: VWZ4Z6N3583861
   Coding: 01000400040005
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 256F08F72CC46E6C4B-8070

1 Fault Found:
02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated 
            000 -  - 
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 12
                    Mileage: 48435 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.02.20
                    Time: 00:02:18


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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels:. 1K0-959-703-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 703 D    HW: 5K0 959 703 D
   Component: Tuer-SG         007 2101  
   Coding: 0001168
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 1012552
   VCID: 354FD8B75C641EECFB-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels:. 1K0-959-704-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 704 D    HW: 5K0 959 704 D
   Component: Tuer-SG         007 2101  
   Coding: 0001168
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 1012552
   VCID: 364DDFBB416215F4F2-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels:| 7P6-035-730.clb
   Part No SW: 7P6 035 730 K    HW: 7P6 035 730 K
   Component: TELEFON       H15 3200  
   Revision: 1B001001    Serial number: 00007664987885
   Coding: 0A10040000010100
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVNA 002720
   ROD: EV_UHVNA_002.rod
   VCID: 3A55CB8BBD7AF19416-806E

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:11)--------------------------

Uwe · Mar 15, 2018

I don't see an obvious way.

If anyone knows how, please chime in!

-Uwe-

AIB Wolfgang · Mar 16, 2018

Hello
What's about the adaption-channels in "17"?
ENG102605-ENG103239-outside_temperature_p_ice_warning, and following

TBAx · Mar 16, 2018

^^^ AIB Wolfgang: Those are only present in MQB cars onward. So the MK6 does not have it, at least to my knowledge.

TedJohnson · Dec 3, 2021

I'm trying to change the 39degree ice warning to a lower temp range (eg, 0 degrees, so it never goes off).
I tried this a few days ago, using this sequence of VCDS steps:

17 instruments
16 security code 20103
10 adaptations

but got the error:
"Controller refused the key!
Error 35: invalid key"

After more google kung fu, I came across threads suggesting trying 47115 and 25327 as the key.
When I tried these new keys, both gave the error:
"Security Access Error
Controller refused to send a seed!
Error 37: Required time delay not expired"

Is this error a consequence of my earlier (failed) attempts to enter a valid security code?
I've driven the car about 50 miles since the last time I tried a security code -- how far does the car need to be driven to reach the time delay expiration so I can try again?

Thanks in advance.
Full scan follows:

Code:

Friday,03,December,2021,19:46:08:09576
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 21.9.0.2 (x64)
Data version: 20210903 DS330.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVWHD7AJ2EW000268   License Plate: TCJ.BEFORE.39.DEGREE.CHANGE
Mileage: 72130km-44819mi   Repair Order:



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Chassis Type: AJ-VW36 (7N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 1C 25 2E 42 44 46 52 56 62 72 77
        

VIN: WVWHD7AJ2EW000268   Mileage: 72130km-44819miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
1C-Position Sensing -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (CBF)       Labels:. 06J-907-115-CBF.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 115 AT    HW: 1K0 907 115 AK
   Component: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI     0020 
   Revision: E3H26---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 040301081C070160
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 78D111830BF6234979-802C
   VINID: 9E69D850745A0959C000008620E08690E7

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 02E-927-770.clb
   Part No SW: 02E 300 058 P    HW: 02E 927 770 AL
   Component: GSG DSG AG6     521 3513 
   Revision: 05652104    Serial number: 00001307180293
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 277302FF96C87CB120-8072

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BL    HW: 1K0 907 379 BL
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H31 0152 
   Revision: 00H31001   
   Coding: 114B600C492200FA880D06EA92210041B70800
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 7DDF0097E4D406612A-8028

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels:| 3C8-907-336.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 426 BH    HW: 7N0 907 426 BH
   Component: AC Manuell    H20 0505 
   Revision: 00001019   
   Coding: 0010002002
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACManueBHBVW36X A01010
   ROD: EV_ACManueBHBVW36X_VW36.rod
   VCID: 7BDB0E8FF2C0085114-802E

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 937 086 T    HW: 1K0 937 086 T
   Component: BCM PQ35  M   111 0709 
   Revision: AC111709   
   Coding: 6F180A1A90252AC4008800C17000054448010386434D8D60648020200040
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 41A7BC67D8ACA2810E-8014

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5K1 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 20061  26  0512
   Coding: 009795

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 5C0 959 655 M    HW: 5C0 959 655 M
   Component: AirbagVW10G   014 0726 
   Serial number: 003L4R02933T 
   Coding: 00004737
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360 001026
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360.rod
   VCID: 3C59CD93B74ECF695D-8068

   Seat occupied recognition:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 339 B    HW: 5K0 959 339 B
   Component: BF-Gewichtss.  006 0001
   Serial number: ---0000R--00008FCN00

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354
   Component: S.Sens.Fahr.V  H02 ----
   Serial number: 3572MSME68585478ZZZ1

   Front Passenger's Side Airbag Crash Sensor:
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354
   Component: S.Sens.Beif.V  H02 ----
   Serial number: 3582MSME6D585478ZZZ7

   Rear Side Airbag Crash Sensor (on driver's side):
   Component: S.Sens.Fahr.H  --- ----
   Serial number: 3512QSME66483049ZZZV

   Passenger side rear thorax airbag crash sensor:
   Component: S.Sens.Beif.H  --- ----
   Serial number: 3522QSME4A04321EZZZU

   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side:
   Component: F.Sens.Fahr  --- ----
   Serial number: 35527SME5B755C2FZZZ

   Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side:
   Component: F.Sens.Beif  --- ----
   Serial number: 35627SME2C6E5C2FZZZ2

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5K0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 507 AH    HW: 5K0 953 549 B
   Component: Lenks.Modul   008 0090 
   Revision: --------    Serial number:  90440MGN000BG
   Coding: 189A140000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGKUDS A05001
   ROD: EV_SMLSNGKUDS_A05.rod
   VCID: 76CD1FBBC9E255396B-8022

   Multifunction steering wheel control module:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542 B    HW: 5K0 959 542 B  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-TAS  H30 0032
   Serial number: 0151632             
   Coding: 830000

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 5K6 920 973 C    HW: 5K6 920 973 C
   Component: KOMBI         H05 0705 
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 270F01
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04716
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW36.rod
   VCID: 3753D2BF8E68EC31B0-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 AF    HW: 7N0 907 530 AF
   Component: J533  Gateway H52 1634 
   Revision:   H52       Serial number: 200513F1000362
   Coding: 350002
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 74C925B3D79E472955-8020

No fault code found.

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Address 1C: Position Sensing        Labels: 1Kx-919-xxx-1C.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 919 879     HW: 5N0 919 879
   Component: Kompass         002 0002 
   Revision: 00002000    Serial number: 1225223RP3TQ07
   Coding: 0000002
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 7EDD079B29D21D7933-802A

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234
   Component: IMMO          H05 0705 
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03709
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
   VCID: 6AF53BCB8D5A81D9FF-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels:. 5N0-035-342.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 G    HW: 5N0 035 342 G
   Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H19 0770 
   Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7665021244   
   Coding: 010100
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 2B7BFECF4A2058D1C4-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MIN3.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 701 H    HW: 5K0 959 701 H
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2105 
   Coding: 0001268
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 3753D2BF4668EC31B0-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 R
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 74     3501 
   Revision: 00H22000   
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 3957D487707CFA4146-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MIN3.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 702 H    HW: 5K0 959 702 H
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2105 
   Coding: 0001268
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 3851D1834B76E349B9-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 035 164 F    HW: 1K0 035 164 F
   Component: LOW NAR SDARS H03 0005 
   Revision: -----07S    Serial number: VWZ4Z6N3583861
   Coding: 01000400040005
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 256F08F72CC46EA112-8070

1 Fault Found:
02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 151
                    Mileage: 69907 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2015.12.20
                    Time: 08:00:41


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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels:. 1K0-959-703-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 703 D    HW: 5K0 959 703 D
   Component: Tuer-SG         007 2101 
   Coding: 0001168
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 1012552
   VCID: 354FD8B75C641E21A2-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels:. 1K0-959-704-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 704 D    HW: 5K0 959 704 D
   Component: Tuer-SG         007 2101 
   Coding: 0001168
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 1012552
   VCID: 364DDFBB41621539AB-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels:| 7P6-035-730.clb
   Part No SW: 7P6 035 730 K    HW: 7P6 035 730 K
   Component: TELEFON       H15 3200 
   Revision: 1B001001    Serial number: 00007664987885
   Coding: 0A10040000010100
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVNA 002720
   ROD: EV_UHVNA_002.rod
   VCID: 3A55CB8BBD7AF1594F-806E

No fault code found.

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Uwe · Dec 4, 2021

TedJohnson said:
I've driven the car about 50 miles since the last time I tried a security code -- how far does the car need to be driven to reach the time delay expiration so I can try again?

That's not a function of distance but rather how long the iginition has been on. Check this measuring value:

IDE00323 -- Security Access: Number of invalid keys

If it is not zero, wait until it is.

However, I still don't see a way to turn the "freeze" warning off in that cluster.

-Uwe-

golfi_vend · Dec 4, 2021

I think editing eeprom is a possibility.

TedJohnson · Dec 4, 2021

Uwe said:
However, I still don't see a way to turn the "freeze" warning off in that cluster.

Bummer. I was hoping the "freeze" parms would appear after the security key was accepted. My car is one of the very last of the mk6 GTI's (2014) and I've seen this tweak (39 degree) in discussions of 2011 mk6's, so it seems odd that that functionality wouldn't have carried forward into 2014 builds.

Uwe said:
That's not a function of distance but rather how long the iginition has been on. Check this measuring value:

IDE00323 -- Security Access: Number of invalid keys

If it is not zero, wait until it is.

How long as in minutes, not miles? Does it erase the memory of one invalid key for every N minutes the ignition has been on? If so, then I really hate VAG's security overkill.

Uwe · Dec 4, 2021

TedJohnson said:
How long as in minutes, not miles? Does it erase the memory of one invalid key for every N minutes the ignition has been on? If so, then I really hate VAG's security overkill.

I do not think there is a definitive answer to this; I believe it varies by control module and how many times an invalid key has been entered. In some control modules, the number of minutes Security Access remains locked out doubles with every new attempt to enter an invalid key.

-Uwe-

DV52 · Dec 5, 2021

@TedJohnson: Hi. Given the apparent futility in seeking a coding solution to your problem (as evident in the informed responses received thus far) - maybe you could try an "inelegant" fix - which will have other consequences, but depending on your level of frustration might be acceptable.

I don't have a specific WD for your "Yankee" car, but the temperature sensor is generally what's more commonly known in electronic parlance as a "thermistor" - which simply means a temperature dependent resistor. So, the way that thermistors work is that their ohms increase as the temperature decreases (it's called a "negative temperature coefficient", or NTC).

When used in a car application, a threshold resistance is established so that whenever the resistance is above a set value, the ice warning is triggered (there are actually 2 x threshold temps established to stop the alarm from "hunting" - but this is probably too much information!)

So, an alternative solution to your problem is to swap the thermistor for a fixed value resistor that has an ohmic value less than the pre-set threashold. Now, of course this will have the consequential effect of the instrument cluster always displaying a fixed temperature - but it's only a question of deciding if the cure is less annoying than the problem!!

This particular fix has the additional disadvantage that it will require some experimentation to determine the correct resistance value - but again, its a matter of deciding if the effort is commensurate with the annoyance factor!!

The choice is entirely yours!!

Don

TedJohnson · Dec 5, 2021

@Uwe: thanks for the info!
@DV52: thanks for the thermistor suggestion. I actually do like to see the temperature reading, so I won't do the thermistor change. The temp in my area often changes a surprising amount as I drive around town into the various microclimates, which is interesting. However having said that... the other day it was at 39 for the entire drive, so I was bracing myself for the ice warning "Ding!", and it never occurred.

DV52 · Dec 6, 2021

TedJohnson said:
The temp in my area often changes a surprising amount as I drive around town into the various microclimates, which is interesting.

The existence of what you call "microclimates" is exactly the reason why 2 x threshold temperatures are established in the ice warning function.

If you think about what can happen when the ambient temperature is EXACTLY 39 degrees - as you drive within a "microclimate" where the temperature varies by only a small amount, you will conclude that the dreaded "ding" will constantly sound as you move through the area.

To stop this, a second threshold temperature is established that is slightly warmer than 39 degrees (lets say, 40 degrees). So, once the ice facility measures 39 degrees, the "ding" happens and the ice function remains armed until the temperature increases to 40 degrees - at which point the ice function re-sets. This means that having armed, the ice facility does nothing between 39 and 40 degrees (it's called a "dead-band", or in engineering speak "hysteresis").

Hence the dreaded "ding" only happens in the initial arming phase and hence (probably) the ice temperature is 39 degrees - instead of the nice round number 40 degrees (but, I'm guessing about the second bit)!!

TedJohnson said:
However having said that... the other day it was at 39 for the entire drive, so I was bracing myself for the ice warning "Ding!", and it never occurred.

Please don't take offense (because none is intended) - but one of the abiding mysteries that I have never understood is the faith that folk have in believing the number shown on displays!! It appears to be universal regardless of hemisphere, culture or background. I've had a long association with meters and instrument laboratories and I can confirm that displays (digital. or otherwise) often "tell porkies".

Now, I've yet to be conclude whether these "porkies" are deliberate lies, or involuntary untruths (my decision is pending further discussions with my therapist about a range of conspiracy theories

) - but I suggest that you remain skeptical about the measured value on ALL displays!!

Don

Uwe · Dec 6, 2021

DV52 said:
Please don't take offense (because none is intended) - but one of the abiding mysteries that I have never understood is the faith that folk have in believing the number shown on displays!!

Hah! I don't think VW themselves have much faith in it; if they did they'd set it closer to 32°F.

-Uwe-

DV52 · Dec 7, 2021

Uwe said:
Hah! I don't think VW themselves have much faith in it; if they did they'd set it closer to 32°F.

-Uwe-

@Uwe: you certainly do ask the big questions!!! Why is the "ding" at a respectable 39°F (4°C)? I didn't know - until I discovered the following answer from a VW dealership in your part of the globe:

"Though our instincts suggest 39 degrees is much too warm for a safety feature to be necessary, this is actually an important safety feature in your Volkswagen. It’s not always true that ice only forms at 32 degrees, as the asphalt and ground temperature could be much colder than the outside temperature. This means rainfall can quickly turn into ice on the roads surfaces................"

Here in Glendale, California, this isn’t likely to happen, but if you’re fond of road trims or have family you plan on visiting in the Midwest, it might serve as a good reminder to be cautious of changing weather conditions.

From HERE

Don

PS: But an even more unfathomable question is how anyone with even a hint of spacial perception can call the States in red (below), the Midwest. On this basis, Ross-Tech should change its address to 881 Sumneytown Pike Lansdale PA (Farwest)

PS:

NZDubNurd · Dec 7, 2021

BMW stated in the E30 owners manual (Dads was a 1991) that is was at 4C because ice can form on bridges and other areas at that temperature.

The bridges can cool more easily because of the missing thermal mass of the earth under them and can be exposed to the wind chill, pulling their surface temperatures down.

Uwe · Dec 7, 2021

NZDubNurd said:
The bridges can cool more easily

It's not like our beneficent government doesn't warn us about that...

-Uwe-

Bruce · Dec 7, 2021

DV52 said:
PS: But an even more unfathomable question is how anyone with even a hint of spacial perception can call the States in red (below), the Midwest.

See this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midwestern_United_States

DV52 · Dec 7, 2021

Bruce said:
See this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midwestern_United_States

Thanks Bruce - blame goes to your (our) colonial masters. Didn't your ancestors fight a war over colonial rule - clearly one of the vestiges that remained??

Don

Bruce · Dec 7, 2021

I think there are others.. head is slow today so I can't name any others...

My ancestors did not fight but my wife's did. Her ancestors go back to the 1720's here is 'Murica. My ancestors came in the 1860's.

Uwe · Dec 7, 2021

DV52 said:
an even more unfathomable question is how anyone with even a hint of spacial perception can call the States in red (below), the Midwest.

You have to remember that at one point, those states were far-western territories rather than states.

-Uwe-

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