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    2001 Beetle 2.0L cranks won't start

    engine cranks , won't start. readings of scan. coolant temp group 01 coolant temp G62 -40.C group 6 intake air temp G42 7.0 C. The car setting a day. Ambient temp 50F. Should both temp be close. ??? Group 6 engine speed G28 while cranking no change 0/min.
    I replaced crank sensor by oil filter, coolant sensor 4 term by cyl head in plastic housing.
    Still crank but no start. I scan and here is the reading.

    Saturday,10,March,2018,14:33:41:51465
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 18.2.0.3 (x64)
    Data version: 20180212 DS287.0
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    Address 01: Engine Labels: 06A-906-032-AVH.lbl
    Control Module Part Number: 06A 906 032 EB
    Component and/or Version: 2.0l R4/2V G *3667
    Software Coding: 00003
    Work Shop Code: WSC 00066
    VCID: 62CB1FB3EE86B8546E-5142
    3 Faults Found:

    16502 - Engine Coolant Temp. Sensor (G62)
    P0118 - 35-00 - Signal too High
    16497 - Intake Air Temp. Sensor (G42)
    P0113 - 35-10 - Signal too High - Intermittent
    16705 - Engine Speed Sensor (G28)
    P0321 - 35-00 - Implausible Signal

    Readiness: 0110 1101

    I cleared codes. and now have coolant sensor G62 7.0 C and air temp 11.0C G42 and seen some reading from engine speed G28, but it didn't stay long during cranking.
    Can I read fuel injectors pulse? what should the reading be? What group #? Is fuel pump pressure given? Can I read a cam sensor? Asking for help. Ross-tech is good scan tool but I'm not utilizing it to it's fullest. I need some guidance. Thanks for your help. Lloyd

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    You have replaced the crankshaft position sensor, but you are still getting a fault code for it? Have you checked/tested/verified the wiring to it? Where did you get the sensor itself?

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    I'd start with the errors it gives you before looking at the fuel pump pressures.
    The G42 sensor is intermittent, so it could disappear and come as it pleases. the other two are permanent.
    due to emissions, the engine can only consume fuel when a certain engine speed is reached by the starter.
    did you clear the errors? do they come back?

    i'd also have a look at fuses and wiring by WD and RTFB
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    Hello OP and welcome to the VCDS forum.

    Please post full auto-scans.

    I see you have a G28 code and a mix of high circuit codes related to temp sensors.

    Does engine start with carb cleaner sprayed in intake to verify fuel vs spark condition?

    Is ground enhancement TSB been performed on coil pack and for G28?

    A review of the WD in RTFB is recommended for shared tracks or isolation of the components by unplugging & logging changes in the G28 output.
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    Coolant maybe contaminated becoming an electrolyte that results in this type of DTC, in addition to possibly a bad ECT or coolant contamination across the sensor since shared for the ECU and Cluster. Also the color of the sensor for ECT should be green not black as per TSB of this old generation of AZG!

    LOG G28 while cranking and parts shared DTC's unplugged for RPM verification!

    G28 should be inspected for oil contamination that brings fragmented metal with oil & also being conductive to connector to create a corrupt pulse reading & by means as a wick from plain old age of blow by and over filling with oil or gasoline contaminated oil from running fat form IAT and ECT issues.

    Smell sump stick for gas vapor odor!

    Check intake TV for oil residue and pipe!

    JPPSG is advised for process as is the WD section and PCV vapor PSI.

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    Thanks for the reply. In the first post above, is a scan after the 2 sensors replaced but "clear codes" was done after the above posted scan.
    codes checked after cranking several times. no codes present, no run either. Will it post a code during cranking? Thanks Lloyd

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    The crank sensor and coolant sensor not VW OEM.

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    Will it post a code during cranking?
    Usually yup!

    The crank sensor and coolant sensor not VW OEM.
    Oh boy............

    Is G28 seated fully and did you measure compared depth to reluctor?
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    no did not measure, old crank sensor came out in pieces. It look like only one attachment bolt. oring, seat in hole. no adjustment to be made. Thanks for help.

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    I just watched the viedo on posting scans. Here is the complete scan. Thanks Lloyd

    Code:
    Saturday,10,March,2018,14:33:41:51465
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 18.2.0.3 (x64)
    Data version: 20180212 DS287.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    Mileage:    Repair Order: dan 1
    
    
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
                    Address 01: Engine       Labels: 06A-906-032-AVH.lbl
    Control Module Part Number: 06A 906 032 EB
      Component and/or Version: 2.0l R4/2V      G  *3667
               Software Coding: 00003
                Work Shop Code: WSC 00066  
                          VCID: 62CB1FB3EE86B8546E-5142
    3 Faults Found:
    
    16502 - Engine Coolant Temp. Sensor (G62) 
                P0118 - 35-00 - Signal too High
    16497 - Intake Air Temp. Sensor (G42) 
                P0113 - 35-10 - Signal too High - Intermittent
    16705 - Engine Speed Sensor (G28) 
                P0321 - 35-00 - Implausible Signal
    
    Readiness: 0110 1101
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: 1C - VW New Beetle (1998 > 2010)
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 17 19 25 29 35 37 39 46 54 56 65 75
     
       Mileage: 245870km-152776miles
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine        Labels: 06A-906-032-AVH.lbl
       Part No: 06A 906 032 EB
       Component: 2.0l R4/2V      G  *3667  
       Coding: 00003
       Shop #: WSC 00066  
       VCID: 62CB1FB3EE86B8546E-5142
    
    3 Faults Found:
    16502 - Engine Coolant Temp. Sensor (G62) 
                P0118 - 35-00 - Signal too High
    16497 - Intake Air Temp. Sensor (G42) 
                P0113 - 35-10 - Signal too High - Intermittent
    16705 - Engine Speed Sensor (G28) 
                P0321 - 35-00 - Implausible Signal
    Readiness: 0110 1101
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 01M-927-733.lbl
       Part No: 01M 927 733 JF
       Component: AG4 Getriebe 01M    4833  
       Coding: 00000
       Shop #: WSC 00000  
       VCID: 7DF14CCF773867AC73-095E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1C0-907-37x-ABS.lbl
       Part No: 1C0 907 379 C
       Component: ABS FRONT MK60      0103  
       Coding: 0004097
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 2A5BB7938636201466-5124
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
       Part No: 6Q0 909 605 A
       Component: 25 AIRBAG VW5  0E   0004  
       Coding: 12853
       Shop #: WSC 00066  
       VCID: 356194EF0F887FECFB-4AEC
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
                07-10 - Signal too Low - Intermittent
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1C0-920-xx0.lbl
       Part No: 1C0 920 906 
       Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. M73 V03  
       Coding: 03232
       Shop #: WSC 00000  
       VCID: 5EB32B43DAFE9CB44A-4B06
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: Ident
       Component: Nr. Wegfahrs.:VWZ5Z0Y9272217  
       Ident.-Nr. Wegfahrs.:VWZ5Z0Y9272217
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
       Part No: 6N0 909 901 
       Component: Gateway K<->CAN    V032  
       Coding: 00006
       Shop #: WSC 00066  
       VCID: 70EF65FB306A1AC4E8-4B06
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1J0-959-799.lbl
       Part No: 1J0 959 799 AR
       Component: 7S Zentral-SG Komf. 0001  
       Coding: 00256
       Shop #: WSC 00066  
       VCID: 0E131B034A9E6C349A-4B06
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: Steuerger
       Component: t Fahr. antwortet nicht     
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1J2959801D
       Component: 7S Tőrsteuerger. BF0002r  
    
    2 Faults Found:
    01331 - Door Control Module; Driver Side (J386) 
                49-00 - No Communications
    00944 - Heated Exterior Mirror; Passenger Side (Z5) 
                35-00 -  - 
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 03:51)--------------------------
    
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    Address 01: DTCs cleared
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    Get that suspect FOD G28 out of that engine or check ECU for water ingress and or harness/rodent damage

    16705 - Engine Speed Sensor (G28)
    P0321 - 35-00 - Implausible Signal
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