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    2009 Audi Q7 TDI TPMS Either fix or disable

    Hey guys

    Breaking my head with a 2009 Q7 and its TPMS System, can't get it to disable or work, either would be nice
    So far i have done the following:
    -Checked tire pressures in all
    -Tried to disable by removing fuse to TPMS module, CAN Gateway remove module adr 65, and In instrument cluster Long Coding, untick TPMS installed = Doesn't work
    -Replaced R96 Antenna under right underbody panel, code for it use to not go away when cleared, now it does. Code for it was 01833 Antenna for Tire Pressure Monitoring/Rear (R96) - No Signal/Communication - MIL ON
    -Checked measuring blocks, no pickup of values from any wheel, all 4 have sensors on the valve/inside mag.
    -Tried to play with TPMS coding change country to USA/ ROW and add +2 for extra load = no change in situation

    Only code that remains in the TPMS module 4F0910273B and immediately re-appears
    0521- Sensor for Tire pressure
    004 - No signal/communication - MIL ON

    S'il vous plait HELP

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    Please post an Auto-Scan for context.

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    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    I just wont ask for auto-scan but I find a request to disable TPMS hilarious
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack@European_Parts View Post
    I just wont ask for auto-scan but I find a request to disable TPMS hilarious
    Oh lighten up, Jack. He asked for help to fix (or disable), and you know better than to worry that we're going to help him disable. I think it sucks that such complexity is mandatory, but I sure don't want the liability associated with disabling either.

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    Thanks Uwe, i said either or
    now i saw a field in measuring blocks about battery age, are the wheel sensors integrating a battery? Un-replaceable i presume?

    Scan will be posted tomorrow

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    Oh lighten up, Jack. He asked for help to fix (or disable), and you know better than to worry that we're going to help him disable. I think it sucks that such complexity is mandatory, but I sure don't want the liability associated with disabling either.

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    Uwe you know I'm just busting balls.......

    OP: Lets fix this thing!

    What TPMS controller are we playing with by means of scan or VIN?

    I have an ass load of overstock on TPMS controllers if needed but the batteries in the sensors are probably kaput.

    There are ways to take apart and replace them in YouTube how to videos....... I have had success myself and saved a customer over $1000 USD!

    I am not unsympathetic to the system being a POS!

    The force says there is good FOD and BAD FOD .......we know where I stand on the BAD DARK FOD!


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    Last edited by Jack@European_Parts; 02-13-2018 at 10:38 PM.
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    Ok here goes the full scan
    I must have at least 8 other sensors around on other wheels the OEM HUF 433mhz
    Tried leaving a wheel with sensor close to the frong right, picks up nothing.
    Why do i have the feeling the module doesnt see what the antenna picks up?

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    VIN: WA1AM64L89D034266   License Plate: 
    
    
    Chassis Type: 4L (4F0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 05 07 08 09 0E 15 16 17 19 36 37 42 46 47 4F 52 55
              56 62 65 67 69 6C 6D 6F 72 76 77
    
    VIN: WA1AM64L89D034266   Mileage: 248530km-154429miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
    07-Control Head -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    0E-Media Player 1 -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
    37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
    4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    65-Tire Pressure -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    67-Voice Control -- Status: OK 0000
    69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
    6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
    6D-Trunk Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    6F-Centr. Conv. II -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
    76-Park Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
     
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    Address 01: Engine (CAT)       Labels:. 059-907-401-CAT1.clb
       Part No SW: 4L0 910 401 Q    HW: 4L0 907 401 B
       Component: 3.0TDI EDC17G004AG  0100  
       Revision: 31H01---    Serial number:               
       Coding: 0121002A190F0968
       Shop #: WSC 48286 000 1048576
       VCID: 306F3F00A38CC8C63A-8064
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1 
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09D-927-750.lbl
       Part No SW: 09D 927 750 FD    HW: 09D 927 750 FD
       Component: AL 750 6A           1474  
       Revision: 00H78000    Serial number:               
       Coding: 0000504
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       VCID: 75E1CE141C6EADEEA9-8020
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels:. 4L0-910-517-V2.clb
       Part No SW: 4L0 910 517 B    HW: 4L0 614 517 D
       Component: ESP ALLRAD MK25E1   0010  
       Revision: 00H30001    
       Coding: 0099473
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       VCID: 2959D2648056B90EFD-807C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 05: Acc/Start Auth.        Labels:. 4F0-910-852.clb
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 852 B    HW: 4F0 905 852 D
       Component: FBSAUDIC6 ELV   H05 0100  
       Revision: 00H05000    Serial number: 10602601251216
       Coding: 0000131
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       VCID: 2541DE54EC4E9D6ED9-8070
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 910 132 J
       Component: FBSAUDIC6 EZS   H03 0020
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4F0 910 220 A
       Component: FBSAUDIC6 IDG   H01 0040
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 07: Control Head        Labels: 4L0-910-7xx-07-H.clb
       Part No SW: 4L0 910 732 R    HW: 4E0 035 729 A
       Component: Interfacebox    H43 4610  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 354AS097546552
       Coding: 0002003
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       VCID: 387F07204BFC108672-806C
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4L0 910 609 
       Component: E0380 BedienteilH01 0060
    
       Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 00000001239468
    
       Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 0102.12.080000000100010955
    
       Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 010955
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: None
       Part No SW: 4L0 910 043 B    HW: 4L0 820 043 N
       Component: KLIMABETAETIGUNGH07 0040  
       Revision: 00---014    Serial number: 00000000196204
       Coding: 0000054
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       VCID: 2345C04CE27A635EB7-8076
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 4F0-910-279.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 279 N    HW: 4F0 907 279 
       Component: ILM Fahrer      H22 0320  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 4F0907279     
       Coding: 0012114
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       VCID: 346733105794F4E65E-8060
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4L1 910 113   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: Wischer AU716   H16 0100  
       Coding: 00064792
       Shop #: WSC 31414  
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 8K0 910 557   Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
       Component: REGENLICHTSENSORH04 0003  
       Coding: 00150059
       Shop #: WSC 31414  
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 0E: Media Player 1        Labels: 4E0-910-111.lbl
       Part No SW: 4L0 910 110 B    HW: 4L0 035 110 
       Component: MP3-Changer     H46 0390  
       Revision: 00046004    Serial number: AUZ5ZBI8734625
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 1E33F1B8C9184EB698-804A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 4L0-910-655.lbl
       Part No SW: 4L0 910 655 A    HW: 4L0 959 655 B
       Component: 75 AIRBAG AUDI8RH43 0230  
       Revision: 07H43000    Serial number: 0038QD097E93  
       Coding: 0014133
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       VCID: 2B55286C8AAAAB1E0F-807E
    
       Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332QSME4D1643006
    
       Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342QSME0A173C2CN
    
       Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6352QSME4A2038048
    
       Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6362QSME0A171D24G
    
       Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 63734SME1C0C0A04/
    
       Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 63834SME3F0E411C9
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 4F0-910-549.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 549 A    HW: 4F0 953 549 C
       Component: J0527               0530  
       Revision: 00H06000    Serial number: 90055083400094
       Coding: 0002242
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       VCID: 275DD45C96428F7EEB-8072
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
       Component: E0221           H02 0030
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:. 4L0-920-xxx-17.clb
       Part No SW: 4L0 920 931 E    HW: 4L0 920 931 E
       Component: KOMBIINSTR.   H06 0135  
       Revision: 00100000    Serial number: AF701RV19     
       Coding: 8B96640401000008020300
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       VCID: 2D51267474BEA52E11-8078
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 4F0-907-468.clb
       Part No SW: 4F0 907 468 K    HW: 4F0 907 468 F
       Component: GW-BEM 4CAN-M H06 0025  
       Revision: 4LA80024    Serial number: 2400L0911080A1
       Coding: 000303
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       VCID: 377D041C86E21FFE7B-8062
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 915 181 D    HW: 8K0 915 181 D
       Component: J367-BDM  H07 0107 
       Serial number: 00000000004140398033
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr (J136)       Labels: None
       Part No SW: 4F0 959 760 C    HW: 4F0 959 760 C
       Component: MEM-FS        H08 0062  
       Revision: AA000000    Serial number: 00001001206643
       Coding: 00581300000011110000
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       VCID: 31693A046886C1CE35-8064
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 37: Navigation        Labels: 4E0-910-88x-37.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 888 M    HW: 4E0 919 887 M
       Component: MNS US          H52 1100  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 313KZ087545178
       Shop #: WSC 95863 999 84060
       VCID: 387F07204BFC108672-806C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:. 4F0-959-793.clb
       Part No SW: 4F0 959 793 R    HW: 8K0 959 793 D
       Component: TSG FA        H11 0250  
       Revision:             Serial number: 0000100631194 
       Coding: 010D07205E40440004
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       VCID: 468379D8F1087676F0-8012
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 4L0-910-289.lbl
       Part No SW: 4L0 910 289 F    HW: 4L0 907 289 C
       Component: Komfortgeraet   H08 0060  
       Revision: 0060 ---    Serial number: 01159467890000
       Coding: 3438621
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       VCID: 3365300C529AF3DE47-8066
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
       Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 47: Sound System (J525)       Labels: None
       Part No SW: 4L0 910 223 K    HW: 4L0 035 223 C
       Component: DSP-AU716-RD  H07 0270  
       Revision: S1100000    
       Coding: 020100
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       VCID: 2C572B704FA4AC2606-8078
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II        Labels: 4F0-910-280.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 280     HW: 4F0 907 280 D
       Component: ILM Beifahrer   H13 0100  
       Revision:             Serial number: 00000000050873
       Coding: 0012001
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       VCID: 5EB3B1B889980EB6D8-800A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:. 4F0-959-792.clb
       Part No SW: 4F0 959 792 R    HW: 8K0 959 792 D
       Component: TSG BF        H11 0250  
       Revision:             Serial number: 0000100650265 
       Coding: 010D07205E40440004
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       VCID: 45817ED4CC0E7D6EF9-8010
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 8P0-907-357.lbl
       Part No: 8P0 907 357 H
       Component: Dynamische LWR  H02 0010  
       Revision: 00000001    Serial number:               
       Coding: 0000007
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       VCID: 3F8D6C3C6ED227BEB3-806A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio        Labels: 4E0-910-541.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 541 T    HW: 4E0 035 542 
       Component: TUNER EU/US/RDW H42 0630  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 304AL097631906
       Coding: 0000002
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       VCID: 31693A04A886C1CE35-8064
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 62: Door, Rear Left (J388)       Labels:. 4F0-959-795.clb
       Part No SW: 4F0 959 795 M    HW: 8K0 959 795 B
       Component: TSG HL        H10 0251  
       Revision:             Serial number: 0000100637725 
       Coding: 010C07204040230004
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       VCID: 438560CCC23A435ED7-8016
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 65: Tire Pressure        Labels: 4F0-910-273-BA.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 273 B    HW: 4F0 907 273 A
       Component: Reifendruck 3   H05 0100  
       Revision: 00050100    Serial number: 00000900082302
       Coding: 0062424
       Shop #: WSC 45056 347 116111
       VCID: 224BC548FD606A56BC-8076
    
    2 Faults Found:
    01521 - Sensor for Tire Pressure 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - MIL ON
    01833 - Antenna for Tire Pressure Monitoring; Rear (R96) 
                005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation - MIL ON
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 67: Voice Control        Labels: 4E0-910-75x-67.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 754 Q    HW: 4E0 035 753 A
       Component: SDS 3501 US     H46 0630  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000901160151
       Shop #: WSC 12336 024 394758
       VCID: 346733105794F4E65E-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 69: Trailer (J345)       Labels:. 4E0-907-383.clb
       Part No SW: 4E0 907 383 H    HW: 4E0 907 383 G
       Component: Anhaenger     H08 0080  
       Revision: 2A002002    Serial number: 00000115335551
       Coding: 0200000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       VCID: 2F6D3C7C7EB2D73E23-807A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 6C: Back-up Cam.        Labels: 4L0-910-441.clb
       Part No SW: 4L0 910 441 B    HW: 4L0 907 441 B
       Component: J772__Rearview      0030  
       Revision: --H03---    Serial number: 525PA8-J8Y40L5
       Coding: 1020101
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       VCID: 2541DE54EC4E9D6ED9-8070
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 6D: Trunk Elect.        Labels: None
       Part No SW: 4L0 910 945     HW: 4L0 827 851 C
       Component: ValeoHeckdeckel H28 0290  
       Revision: --H28001    Serial number: E5030000B     
       Shop #: WSC 98765 666 38354
       VCID: 6CD7EB704F246C2646-8038
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4L0 910 946 
       Component: ValeoHeckdeckel H28 0290
    
       Subsystem 2 - Serial number: E5030100B     
    
       Subsystem 3 - Serial number: RD23.01.09--H28001001C0464
    
       Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 1C0464
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 6F: Centr. Conv. II        Labels:. 4L0-910-290.lbl
       Part No SW: 4L0 910 290 A    HW: 4L0 907 290 A
       Component: ILM HINTEN 2    H05 0060  
       Revision: AAH05061    Serial number: 003861365-----
       Coding: 0003595
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       VCID: 2643D95891489676D0-8072
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4L0 910 591 
       Component: J_245_EE16_SKB09H10 0200
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4L0 910 591 
       Component: J_394_EE16_SKB09H10 0200
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No: 4L0 910 591 
       Component: J_392_EE16_SKB09H10 0200
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 72: Door, Rear Right (J389)       Labels:. 4F0-959-795.clb
       Part No SW: 4F0 959 795 M    HW: 8K0 959 795 B
       Component: TSG HR        H10 0251  
       Revision:             Serial number: 0000100637382 
       Coding: 010C07204040230004
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       VCID: 438560CCC23A435ED7-8016
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 76: Park Assist        Labels: 4Fx-910-283.lbl
       Part No SW: 4L0 910 283 A    HW: 4L0 919 283 A
       Component: Parkhilfe 8-Kan H02 0400  
       Revision: 00H02000    Serial number: 13630833003313
       Coding: 0231246
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       VCID: 285FD7609B5C8006E2-807C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 77: Telephone        Labels: 4E0-910-336.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 336 H    HW: 4E0 862 335 
       Component: Handyvorb2      H20 1130  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000005077987
       Coding: 0010900
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       VCID: 285FD7609B5C8006E2-807C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End---------------------(Elapsed Time: 03:43, udsna)-----------------------
    Last edited by Uwe; 02-14-2018 at 03:32 PM. Reason: CODE tags

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuningbyamg View Post
    -Checked measuring blocks, no pickup of values from any wheel, all 4 have sensors on the valve/inside mag.
    How old are the sensors?

    Quote Originally Posted by tuningbyamg View Post
    I must have at least 8 other sensors around on other wheels the OEM HUF 433mhz
    Tried leaving a wheel with sensor close to the frong right, picks up nothing.
    This is a known good, working sensor? What did you do to wake it up?

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    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    The sensors on the Audi wheels are probably old.
    But the one i took off for testing today from an aftermarket wheel is not even dirty, maybe 2-3 years old tops, and valve stem looks pretty decent too.
    To wake it up, well tried the MMI set tire pressure and change wheels, what else can i try?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuningbyamg View Post
    To wake it up, well tried the MMI set tire pressure and change wheels, what else can i try?
    I've heard that deflating by some substantial amount followed by re-inflation will do the trick. Since it's loose and not supporting a car, I'd drop the pressure by 50%, then re-inflate. But, I think it might also take some rolling time for the system to learn that a particular sensor belongs to it, 'cause otherwise it might decide it owns the sensor(s) in the car(s) parked next to it...

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