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    Polo 6R abs cannot be reached

    Hello everyone,below is an autoscan from polo 6r,despite several attempts at scanning, abs can only be accessed from address 03,autoscan displays 'cannot be reached, however no controller is reporting 'missing message from abs' error,there's no MIL,however owner got concerned after seeing this and thinks there might be a problem waiting to happen,does it have something to do with the latest vcds software version ?

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    Saturday,10,February,2018,09:06:02:48669
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
    VCDS Version: 18.1.0.2 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4411.4
    Data version: 20180122 DS285.1
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    Dealer/Shop Name: FREDRICK'S VWAUDI
    
    VIN: WVWZZZ6RZAU043894   License Plate: KCM469F
    Mileage: 75950km-47193mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
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    Chassis Type: 6R-VW25 (6N0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 04 08 09 10 15 17 19 25 44 56
    
    VIN: WVWZZZ6RZAU043894   Mileage: 75950km-47193miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (J623-CBZB)       Labels:. 03F-906-070-CBZ.clb
       Part No SW: 03F 906 070 BQ    HW: 03F 906 070 D
       Component: SIMOS10.20H02 9692  
       Revision: --------    Serial number:               
       Coding: 002500D6200400080000
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM12TFS02103F906070BQ 003009
       ROD: EV_ECM12TFS_003_VW25.rod
       VCID: 72BED3258424C0476E1-8026
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0000 0000
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 0AM-927-769.clb
       Part No SW: 0AM 300 049 B    HW: 0AM 927 769 D
       Component: GSG DSG AG7     431 9030  
       Revision: 00043014    Serial number: CU501310208608
       Coding: 0000020
       Shop #: WSC 17112 002 1048576
       VCID: 303A192D4638B257D85-5160
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes
    Cannot be reached
    
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    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 6R0-907-044.clb
       Part No SW: 6R0 907 044 A    HW: 6R0 907 044 A
       Component: Climatronic   H08 0103  
       Revision: V0000000    
       VCID: 313C1C294122BB5FD7B-8064
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
       Part No SW: 6R0 937 087 E    HW: 6R0 937 087 E
       Component: BCM PQ25 H+3  H46 0207  
       Revision: BE046001    Serial number: 0146 034100067
       Coding: 24B02BBF08A10000003000003C2B0CD00040410F60040000200000000000
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 31414
       VCID: 3FD84A1187765D2F51F-806A
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 S    HW: 6R0 959 802 S  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
       Component: J386__TSG_FT  006 0903 
       Serial number: KU0-KU016.12.0914085
       Coding: 18BC34
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 AA    HW: 6R0 959 801 AA  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
       Component: J387__TSG_BT  006 0902 
       Serial number: KU0-KU001.02.1010282
       Coding: 08BC34
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 F    HW: 6R0 959 811 F
       Component: J388__TSG_HL  006 0902 
       Serial number: KU0-KU009.02.1013594
       Coding: 08BC32
    
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 F    HW: 6R0 959 812 F
       Component: J389__TSG_HR  006 0902 
       Serial number: KU0-KU010.02.1015666
       Coding: 08BC32
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:| 6R0-919-475.clb
       Part No SW: 6R0 919 475     HW: 6R0 919 475 
       Component: PARKHILFE 4K  H07 0008  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 71391003930182
       Coding: 100101
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_VW250ParkiAssis2 S01006
       ROD: EV_VW250ParkiAssis2.rod
       VCID: 7BA0FE01D36E810F3D7-802E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 D    HW: 6R0 959 655 D
       Component: VW10Airbag00E H09 0018  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 003DX000XRWC
       Coding: 003045
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 31414
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
       ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250.rod
       VCID: 43D046E1EB1E39CF357-8016
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
       Serial number: 3572SRB40000ABA8C92K
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
       Serial number: 3582SRB40000AB9869AM
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
       Serial number: 3516GRB402PCQ048O3IN
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
       Serial number: 3526GRB401TCTBFQP3Q-
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
       Part No SW: 6R0 920 860 D    HW: 6R0 920 860 D
       Component: KOMBI         H03 0205  
       Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 540A00
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04052
       ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW25.rod
       VCID: 35342839B5CA977F8B3-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
       Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 6R0 937 087 E
       Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 0207  
       Coding: 002300
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 31414
       VCID: 70BAD92D8AA8F257985-8024
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
       Component: IMMO          H03 0205  
       Serial number:               
       Coding: 000000
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03006
       ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
       VCID: 6A8ECB45ACF40887D61-803E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 6Q0-423-156.clb
       Part No: 6R0 423 156 B
       Component: LenkhilfeTRW        V277  
       Coding: 11230
       Shop #: WSC 31414  
       VCID: 2F381A515E56ADAFC1F-807A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio (J0503)       Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 035 182 AA    HW: 1K0 035 182 AA
       Component: Radio RCD510  040 0144  
       Revision: 00000001    Serial number: VWZ1Z3I4191427
       Coding: 0500040004
       Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
       VCID: 619CAC6951424BDF07B-8034
    
    1 Fault Found:
    03138 - Input AUX IN 
                011 - Open Circuit
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101011
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 139
                        Mileage: 75944 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2012.07.03
                        Time: 20:36:58
    
    
    End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:47, VBatt start/end: 13.7V/13.7V)-----------
    Last edited by Uwe; 02-10-2018 at 01:57 PM. Reason: CODE tags

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    What happens if you go directly to the ABS, i.e. [Select] -> [03-ABS Brakes]?

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    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
    What happens if you go directly to the ABS, i.e. [Select] -> [03-ABS Brakes]?

    -Uwe-
    There's little data,no asam,no ,no rod,I'll scan brakes directly on Tuesday and post contents

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
    What happens if you go directly to the ABS, i.e. [Select] -> [03-ABS Brakes]?

    -Uwe-
    hello Uwe,this is what i got



    Wednesday,14,February,2018,13:35:00:48669
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
    VCDS Version: 18.1.0.2 (x64) HEX-V2 CB: 0.4411.4
    Data version: 20180122 DS285.1
    www.Ross-Tech.com

    Dealer/Shop Name: FREDRICK'S VWAUDI

    VIN: WVWZZZ6RZAU043894 License Plate: K



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    Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 6R0-907-37x-ESP82.clb
    Control Module Part Number: 6R0 907 379 R HW: 6R0 907 379 R
    Component and/or Version: ESP8.2i front H04 0002
    Software Coding: 23022BE3417100B5C42DD4EB82D500801300
    Work Shop Code: WSC 31414 790 31414
    VCID: 4DC460D93D9AFFBFD33-8018
    No fault code found.

    i created an admap of the same but so far im unable to copy paste the CSV file here

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    ^^^ That looks reasonable.

    This is not a UDS module, so it's not expected to have an ASAM ID or a ROD file name.

    Right-click the CSV file, select EDIT from the menu; that should open it in Notepad. From there you can copy and paste.

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    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
    ^^^ That looks reasonable.

    This is not a UDS module, so it's not expected to have an ASAM ID or a ROD file name.

    Right-click the CSV file, select EDIT from the menu; that should open it in Notepad. From there you can copy and paste.

    -Uwe-
    Once again thanks for the swift reply,I'm also grateful for the prompt upgrade of my interface from enthusiast version to hex V2 pro from the great team at Rosstech,I will post the admap in due time

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    Hello Uwe this is the admap,thanks for opening my eyes

    Code:
    SW:6R0-907-379-R   HW:6R0-907-379-R ---  ABS Brakes
    ;Component:ESP8.2i front H04 0002, Coding:23022BE3417100B5C42DD4EB82D500801300
    ;Wednesday,14,February,2018,13:28:39:48669
    ;VCDS Version: Release 18.1.0 (x64)  Data version: 20180122 DS285.1
    ;VCID: 4DC460D93D9AFFBFD33-8018
    
    Group,Field 1,Data type,Field 2,Data type,Field 3,Data type,Field 4,Data type,
    1,0.0 km/h,,0.0 km/h,,0.0 km/h,,0.0 km/h,,
    2, ,,0.0,,0.0,,Activated,,
    3,864 /min,,15.3 Nm,,15.3 Nm,,0.0 %,,
    4,06:51,,OFF,,N/A,,N/A,,
    5,-42.5,,0.00/s,,0.00 bar,,0.19 m/s*2,,
    6,13.88 V,,ON,,OFF,,00000,,
    9, ,,0.0,,0.00 bar,,0.00 m/s*2,,
    10, ,, ,,Door Closed,,Reverse OFF,,
    16,Tire Pressure,,WARNING,,18494,,50000 km,,
    17,Tire Pressure,,Adj. Steering,,25825,,50000 km,,
    18,Tire Pressure,,Button,,Not Oper.,,N/A,,
    20,BB064689 01771101,,
    22,0x0000,,0.00,,0x0000,,0x0000,,
    23,00101101 00000000,,N/A,,N/A,,N/A,,
    40,ICC: 17 FP: 13 FT: 07 aICC: 87,,
    41,ICC: 17 FP: 13 FT: 07 aICC: 88,,
    42,ICC: 17 FP: 13 FT: 07 aICC: 89,,
    43,ICC: 17 FP: 13 FT: 07 aICC: 89,,
    44,ICC: 17 FP: 13 FT: 07 aICC: 8A,,
    45,ICC: 17 FP: 13 FT: 07 aICC: 8B,,
    125,Steer. ang. 1,,Engine 1,,Transm. 1,,Instruments 1,,
    126, ,,Gateway 1,,Immo 1,, ,,
    206,40.51 m/s*2,,40.90 m/s*2,, ,, ,,
    210,0 km,,0 km,,0 km,,N/A,,
    231,Tire Pressure,,calibrated,,0x4210,,0x0040,,
    232,Tire Pressure,,Monitoring,,0,,0,,
    233,Tire Pressure,,Alarm delay,,0,,75830 km,,
    234,Tire Pressure,,14,,Enabled,,N/A,,
    241,Transmission,,Automatic,,N/A,,N/A,,
    Last edited by Uwe; 02-15-2018 at 08:37 AM. Reason: CODE tags

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    OK, I'm not sure why it doesn't show up in the Auto-Scan; sounds like a bug on our end. This ABS is a bit unusual in terms of the communication protocol in requires. But in the end, I see nothing wrong with the ABS itself.

    -Uwe-
    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    What if you create a custom autoscan entry and put 03 first? If that works, try putting it after addresses other than 02. Let us know if there's a pattern to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric View Post
    What if you create a custom autoscan entry and put 03 first? If that works, try putting it after addresses other than 02. Let us know if there's a pattern to it.
    Hello Eric,how do I go about creating this?

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