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    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitpower View Post
    They all read ok when I’m moving. Logically speaking in the output boxes. That red one is screwed up on the graph. The measuring block reads 0. The graph reads moving.
    Is the scaling for all four the same? It would be good if you posted a proper screen shot rather than a photo of the screen.

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitpower View Post
    Which color goes with which wheel? I want to make sure I’m looking at the correct sensor.
    Do the colors follow the order from left to right same as the measuring block values for g46,47, etc?
    Yes, the data boxes in VC-Scope are in the same order as the four fields in the measuring block, so red should be front, left.

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    I wasnít aware scaling could be changed per sensor value. I havenít changed anything from the default it was set at from Ross tech. I guess I thought all 4 sensors shared the same global scaling factor?

    Iíll try to get a screen shot of it next time.

    By front left, you mean passenger front correct?

    Sorry for the confusion I just want to make sure if Iím out sitting in the snow in working on the correct wheel lol.

    First order is to check scaling
    Second order is to check the bearing/sensor/wire for damage.

    Thanks!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitpower View Post
    I wasn’t aware scaling could be changed per sensor value. I haven’t changed anything from the default it was set at from Ross tech. I guess I thought all 4 sensors shared the same global scaling factor?
    If you haven't changed it, I would think so to0, but like I said, your picture doesn't show the Y-axis values, so I can't be sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitpower View Post
    By front left, you mean passenger front correct?
    No, left/right is defined form the perspective of the car's direction of travel. So that would be the driver's side in a US-model car.

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    The values are all 250kmh if I remember correctly. One for each color.

    As soon as I start scope the red line just takes off, while Iím sitting still.
    Last edited by rabbitpower; 02-09-2018 at 01:06 PM.

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    I checked the scaling and it is the same for all 4 wheels. What should I try next?

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    Log it and post actual log data?

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    **********************LATEST AUTOSCAN:******************

    Code:
    Friday,16,February,2018,19:07:57:45755
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86
    VCDS Version: 18.2.0.3  HEX-NET CB: 0.4411.4
    Data version: 20180212 DS287.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    
    VIN: 3VWST71KX6M783890   License Plate: 
    Mileage: 303230km-188418mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0F 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 47 52 56 62 72 7D
             
    
    VIN: 3VWST71KX6M783890   Mileage: 303230km-188418miles
    
    00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    0F-Digital Radio -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    47-Sound System -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
    7D-Aux. Heat -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine        Labels: 038-906-016-BEW.lbl
       Part No SW: 03G 906 016 AC    HW: 028 101 223 9
       Component: R4 1,9L EDC G000DG  7551  
       Revision: --H02---    Serial number: VWZ7Z0F3428799
       Coding: 0050078
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 64844C78A7E904649C-8030
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 02E-927-770.clb
       Part No SW: 02E 300 043     HW: 02E 927 770 AE
       Component: GSG DSG         070 1126  
       Revision: 04507000    Serial number: 00000601121333
       Coding: 0000020
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 51EA95ACC85B81CCC7-8004
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AA    HW: 1K0 907 379 AA
       Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0102  
       Revision: 00H13001    
       Coding: 0021122
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 71AA352C681BA1CCE7-8024
    
    2 Faults Found:
    01487 - System Function Test 
                000 -  -  - Intermittent
    01486 - System Function Test Activated 
                000 -  - 
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
       Part No: 1K0 820 047 EC
       Component: Climatic PQ35   090 0505  
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 699A5D4C40CB590CAF-803C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-23-M.lbl
       Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 D    HW: 3C0 937 049 D
       Component: Bordnetz-SG     H37 1002  
       Revision: 00H37000    Serial number: 00000000275564
       Coding: 14018E234004150000140000001400000008730B5C
       Shop #: WSC 02415 444 57278
       VCID: 2A18E240854D921466-807E
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K1 955 119 C  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: Wischer VW350  013  0402  
       Coding: 00063445
       Shop #: WSC 02415  
    
    1 Fault Found:
    02381 - Windshield Wiper Motor; Overload 
                003 - Mechanical Failure - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100011
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 171
                        Reset counter: 13
                        Mileage: 303221 km
                        Time Indication: 0
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            ON
                        Voltage: 14.20 V
                            ON
                            ON
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 0F: Digital Radio
    Cannot be reached
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 P    HW: 1K0 909 605 P
       Component: 39 AIRBAG VW8R  032 7900  
       Revision: 03032000    Serial number: 0038FD04TWK   
       Coding: 0013113
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 393ACD0C70EB298C1F-806C
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 959 339 E
       Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 006 0005
    
       Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6332MSME0E461277C
    
       Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6342MSME0F0334524
    
       Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6351HSME0924213F3
    
       Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 6361HSME09284A5AG
    
       Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 63727SME08794A053
    
       Subsystem 7 - Serial number: 63827SME0B161071V
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AH    HW: 1K0 953 549 AH
       Component: J0527           034 0070  
       Coding: 0010021
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 78BC08080B61F08420-802C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
       Part No: 1K0 920 953 D
       Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT 3HL 4312  
       Coding: 0023203
       Shop #: WSC 03083 444 83886
       VCID: 2C14E4588FB98C2494-8078
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 F    HW: 1K0 907 951 
       Component: Gateway         H10 0120  
       Revision:   H10       Serial number: 28001061020206
       Coding: 3F3F0B62071002
       Shop #: WSC 00066 123 12345
       VCID: 2A18E240854D921466-807E
    
    2 Faults Found:
    00463 - Control Module for Digital Sound Package (J525) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 42
                        Reset counter: 229
                        Mileage: 303205 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 02:42:53
    
    02649 - Digital Radio Tuner 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 42
                        Reset counter: 229
                        Mileage: 303205 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 02:42:53
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No: 1K0 920 953 D
       Component: IMMO            3HL 4312  
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 2C14E4588FB98C2494-8078
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN2.lbl
       Part No: 1K0 959 701 K
       Component: Tuer-SG         024 2377  
       Coding: 0001269
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 3620C63041F5C6F4F2-8062
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00928 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Front Driver Side (F220) 
                008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V2.clb
       Part No: 1K1 909 144 K
       Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.5   D06 1701  
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 3326FF245287D3DCD5-8066
    
    2 Faults Found:
    02546 - Steering Limit Stop 
                005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Mileage: 3200 km
                        Temperature: 11.0įC
                        Voltage: 14.00 V
                        Voltage: 13.80 V
    
    00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 
                000 -  - 
                 Freeze Frame:
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MIN.clb
       Part No: 1K0 959 433 AF
       Component:    KSG              0401  
       Coding: 137803281B09058F880F048051A0
       Shop #: WSC 02415 444 66564
       VCID: 74A43C38170994E40C-8020
    
       Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted     
    
       Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     
    
       Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted     
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 47: Sound System
    Cannot be reached
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN2.lbl
       Part No: 1K0 959 702 K
       Component: Tuer-SG         024 2377  
       Coding: 0001269
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 373ECB3446FF3FFCE9-8062
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio        Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 035 180 C    HW: 1K0 035 180 C
       Component: Radio DE2       011 0014  
       Revision: 00011000    Serial number: VWZ4Z7E2036123
       Coding: 0040400
       Shop #: WSC 02415 444 84652
       VCID: 200C0068F371584438-8074
    
    1 Fault Found:
    02218 - Satellite Radio (R146) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN2.lbl
       Part No: 1K0 959 703 D
       Component: Tuer-SG         021 2434  
       Coding: 0000144
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 312AF52CA89BE1CCA7-8064
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN2.lbl
       Part No: 1K0 959 704 D
       Component: Tuer-SG         021 2434  
       Coding: 0000144
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 3228FA20AD9DDAD4DE-8066
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 7D: Aux. Heat        Labels: 1K0-963-235.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 963 235 E    HW: 1K0 963 235 E
       Component: PTC-Element         0404  
       Revision: 00800000    Serial number:               
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 2D12E95CB4A3852C83-8078
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00361 - Heater Element for Auxiliary Heater (Z35) 
                014 - Defective
    
    End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:11, VBatt start/end: 14.3V/14.4V)-----------
    ************************************************** *************


    *********************ABS MEASURING BLOCK STATUS****************




    *********************ACTUAL GRAPH OF MEASURING BLOCK 1***********


    ************************************************** ******************


    It never changes. If I turn off the drivers side front [red] the line goes away. As soon as I click on "graph" the horizontal line takes off. The other 3 sensors graph correctly. Changing the scale will shift the red line but will not change its behavior. The live dynamic output of the sensor corresponding to the red line appears to keep up with the other 3 when driving, but the graph and the actual output do not in any way match as far as I can see? Am I doing something wrong?
    Last edited by rabbitpower; 02-16-2018 at 07:49 PM.

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    Again, please do an actual log while driving slowly in a straight line (starting from 0 km/h) and post the raw log data.

    Using VC-Scope, the scaling you have seems a bit inappropriate for the purpose at hand. Try -5 as the min and 50 as the max for all four items, or maybe even -2 and 20. We're looking for small differences at low speeds.

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