Octavia MKiii 2017 Starter system faulty workshop error

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Hi, new here
I've had the car (Octavia RS 220 TSI DSG6 2017) for about 4 months and recently I'm getting "Starter system faulty workshop!" error after I turn off the switch . If I turn off the engine and switch quickly at once, it doesn't appear.
So far I've been to the importer's service 3 times and they've yet to figure out the problem, although they're working according to Skoda's instructions (so they say) .
I don't have any ignition issue with the car what so ever. Here's a scan i took today:

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Friday,02,February,2018,15:20:47:12953
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86
VCDS Version: 18.1.0.2  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4411.4
Data version: 20180122 DS285.1
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VIN: TMBAE7NE4H01XXXXX   License Plate: 
Mileage: 3445km-2140mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: NE-SK37 (5Q0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 42 44 52 55 5F A9

VIN: TMBAE7NE4H01XXXXX   Mileage: 3445km-2140miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: Cannot be reached 0100
A9-Struct. Borne Sound -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CHHB)       Labels:. 06K-907-425-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 5G0 906 259 C    HW: 06K 907 425 B
   Component: 2.0l R4 TFSI  H13 0002  
   Revision: --H13---    
   Coding: 0C1D00124424010B0000
   Shop #: WSC 19383 002 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TFS0205G0906259C 001005
   ROD: EV_ECM20TFS0205G0906259C.rod
   VCID: 2E05F397B0946CE7CA9-807A

No fault code found.
Readiness: 1000 0001

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Address 02: Auto Trans (J743)       Labels: 0D9-927-770.clb
   Part No SW: 0D9 300 042 S    HW: 02E 927 770 AS
   Component: DQ250-6F MQB  H54 5010  
   Revision: 06454104    Serial number: TFK01610120525
   Coding: 0014
   Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00063
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDQ250021 001001
   ROD: EV_TCMDQ250021.rod
   VCID: 290F008B897A0BDF1FB-807C

1 Fault Found:
10763 - Starter Enable from Selector Lever Sensor System 
          P1734 00 [002] - -
          Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear


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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:| 5Q0-907-379-ESP-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 614 517 AF    HW: 5Q0 614 517 AF
   Component: ESC           H62 0398  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 63006000001556
   Coding: 1A076B91542119704078060241CB2958D62A98026082947600410070C00903
   Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00063
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100ESP 035019
   ROD: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100ESP_035_SK37.rod
   VCID: 75B71CFB15421F3F4B3-8020

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 5G0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 5E0 907 044 AB    HW: 5E0 907 044 AB
   Component: Climatronic   H04 1601  
   Revision: 00001K07    
   Coding: 01010004000110011005000000101002
   Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00063
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACClimaBHBVW37X 006142
   ROD: EV_ACClimaBHBVW37X_006_SK37.rod
   VCID: 65974CBBA5E2EFBFFB3-8030

   Fresh Air Blower Front: 

   Refrigerant Pressure And Temperature Sender: 

   Air quality sensor: 

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:| 5Q0-937-08X-HV1.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 937 084 CL    HW: 5Q0 937 084 AN
   Component: BCM MQBAB H   H24 0175  
   Serial number: 01061629000275
   Coding: 0C101A42C24722FB47E04000000C07280000000000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_BCMMQB 015001
   ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_015.rod
   VCID: 0451713F4E9836B74CD-8050

   Control Unit For Wiper Motor: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5E1 955 119     HW: 5E1 955 119   Labels: 5QX-955-119-V1.CLB
   Component: WWS371 161004  041 0570 
   Serial number:         161018094438
   Coding: 065DDD

   Rain Light Recognition Sensor: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5Q0 955 547 B    HW: 5Q0 955 547 B  Labels: 5Q0-955-547.CLB
   Component: RLHS  042 0105 
   Serial number: S3Y16M10D31H09M51S07
   Coding: 00885D

   Sun Roof: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 591 D    HW: 6R0 959 591 D
   Component: J245 PS72.403  H03 0004 
   Serial number: 0000FST0018NRYL00000
   Coding: 981803

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:| 5Q0-919-283.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 919 283 F    HW: 5Q0 919 283 
   Component: PARKHILFE 4K  H10 0054  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 39261629502863
   Coding: 0001050011
   Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00063
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA14AU3700000 002024
   ROD: EV_EPHVA14AU3700000_002_VW27.rod
   VCID: 3C21C9DF76E88E7774D-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5Q0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 3Q0 959 655 AS    HW: 3Q0 959 655 AS
   Component: Airbag VW20   013 0200  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003SQPMWG67-
   Coding: 98CCC000000000005C5400CC000800000065
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20TS6VW48X 001116
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW20TS6VW48X.rod
   VCID: 0F7B4E1317DE45EFE1F-805A

   Side Sensor Driver Front: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 454 000 710 16
   Component: SideSensor_Df  008 0887 
   Serial number: 3576U000000241E8BD1J
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Passenger Front: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 454 000 310 16
   Component: SideSensor_Pf  008 0887 
   Serial number: 3586U000000235244E11
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Driver Rear: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 454 800 610 16
   Component: SideSensor_Dr  301 0148 
   Serial number: 3516REB80310D0000006
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Passenger Rear: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 454 801 310 16
   Component: SideSensor_Pr  301 0148 
   Serial number: 3526RF8242F0C000000F
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Front Sensor Driver: 
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 454 800 810 16
   Component: FrontSensor_D  304 0149 
   Serial number: 3556V422EF90C000000M
   Coding: 2D2D2D

1 Fault Found:
10492928 - Supply Voltage 
          B201C 00 [008] - Implausible Signal
          [Powersupply implausible signal]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 26
                    Mileage: 3445 km
                    Date: 2018.02.02
                    Time: 15:17:18


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Address 16: Steering wheel (J524)       Labels:| 5Q0-953-549.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 953 521 T    HW: 5Q0 953 569 A
   Component: Lenks.Modul   075 0235  
   Revision: FF034034    Serial number: 20161026500471
   Coding: 1410
   Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSVALEOMQB 001015
   ROD: EV_SMLSVALEOMQB.rod
   VCID: 43D3B2230B16F18F357-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb-SRI3
   Part No SW: 5E0 920 746 C    HW: 5E0 920 746 C
   Component: KOMBI         205 8311  
   Coding: 07A5010829800008010A2A001000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 009051
   ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_009_VW37.rod
   VCID: 290F008B897A0BDF1FB-807C

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:| 5Q0-907-530-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 907 530 AM    HW: 5Q0 907 530 F
   Component: GW MQB High   128 1265  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 0005454104
   Coding: 030100047F085900EB00026A1C0F00010001050000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewLear 013020
   ROD: EV_GatewLear_013_SK37.rod
   VCID: 7CA109DF36684E7734D-8028

   Alternator: 

   Multi Function Steering Wheel Control Module: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 3V0 919 719 B    HW: 3V0 919 719 B
   Component: E221__MFL-PR6  H02 0160 
   Serial number: 000000000A0320111016

   Battery Monitoring Control Module: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5Q0 915 181 J    HW: 5Q0 915 181 J
   Component: J367-BDMConti  H03 1050 
   Serial number: 75410803001610260561

2 Faults Found:
131699 - Control unit for information electronics 1 
          U1054 00 [009] - No Communication
          [Timeout Knoten 0x73 / 5F - Steuerger\E4t f\FCr Informationselektronik 1]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 238
                    Mileage: 3429 km
                    Date: 2018.01.30
                    Time: 15:28:43

                    Supply voltage: Terminal 30: 12.1 V
                    Terminal 15: On

8531970 - Quiescent Current 
          U1406 00 [008] - Too High
          [Ruhestrom oberer Grenzwert \FCberschritten]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 26
                    Mileage: 3436 km
                    Date: 2018.01.30
                    Time: 22:28:17

                    Supply voltage: Terminal 30: 12.4 V
                    Terminal 15: OFF


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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X93-42.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q4 959 593 E    HW: 5Q4 959 593 B
   Component: TSG FS        010 0032  
   Serial number: 0000223728077 
   Coding: 001D0120D000040000001100
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT 006001
   ROD: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT.rod
   VCID: 47CBA6333F2EDDAFE9F-8012

   Drivers Door Rear Control Module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q0 959 811 A    HW: 5Q0 959 811 A  Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
   Component: FOND_FHSG_DRV  005 0005 
   Serial number: 00000000000011987022
   Coding: 010200

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels:| 5Q0-909-144.clb
   Part No SW: 3Q0 909 144 K    HW: 3Q0 909 144 H
   Component: EPS_MQB_ZFLS  506 5072  
   Coding: 8107
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisMQB 013144
   ROD: EV_SteerAssisMQB_013.rod
   VCID: 3A2DCFC77CDCB047661-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X92-52.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q4 959 592 E    HW: 5Q4 959 592 B
   Component: TSG BFS       010 0032  
   Serial number: 0000225193883 
   Coding: 001D0120D000040000001100
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT 006001
   ROD: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT.rod
   VCID: 46D5AB373824C4A7129-8012

   Passengers Rear Door Control Module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q0 959 812 A    HW: 5Q0 959 812 A  Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
   Component: FOND_FHSG_PSG  005 0005 
   Serial number: 00000000000012042926
   Coding: 190200

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range (J745)       Labels:| 7P6-907-357.clb
   Part No SW: 7P6 907 357 D    HW: 7P6 907 357 A
   Component: AFS-ECU       H07 0090  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 03DA00003F000000
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00063
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWAFSMQB 001120
   ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWAFSMQB.rod
   VCID: 40D9BD2F1A00EA97285-8014

   Left Headlamp Power Output Stage: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1T0 941 329 B    HW: 1T0 941 329 B  Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
   Component: LeiMo links  H06 0009 
   Coding: 3E0000

   Right Headlamp Power Output Stage: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 1T0 941 329 B    HW: 1T0 941 329 B  Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
   Component: LeiMo rechts  H06 0009 
   Coding: 3E0000

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 5F: Information Electr.
Cannot be reached

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Address A9: Struct. Borne Sound (J869)       Labels: 4H0-907-159.clb
   Part No SW: 5E0 907 159     HW: 4H0 907 159 A
   Component: SAS-GEN 2     H06 0001  
   Serial number: 161008200130
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SoundActuaGen2AU64X 003010
   ROD: EV_SoundActuaGen2AU64X.rod
   VCID: 698F408B49FACBDFDFB-803C

No fault code found.

End----(Elapsed Time: 01:31, VBatt start/end: 12.0V/12.0V. VIgn 12.0V)-----

I think the "10763 - Starter Enable from Selector Lever Sensor System" error has something to do with this issue, as I'm not getting it every scan.
I've replaced the original stereo system with aftermakret Alpine multimedia so i guess some of the Can bus errors have to do with that ,
no idea where the airbag "Supply Voltage
B201C 00 [008] - Implausible Signal" comes from - should this be a concern?

Any advise or lead would be most appreciated
 
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Gear selector switch problems are not uncommon on the Octavia III, that's the first thing I would check.
 
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I couldn't find anything relevant with the word "lever", "selector" or "shift" under advanced measurements , when searching for "gear" i found:
selected gear
Gear position sensor. raw value
Gear position sensor. current value
Gear position sensor. last valid value
Gear position sensor. gear position valid
none of the measurements in the above made any sense while measuring and changing gears - should i be getting a letter (d,p,r ) ?
 
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How about:

IDE00095-ENG101643 -- Status of selector lever lock - Status Shift Lock
IDE00096-ENG100569 -- Selector lever position - Shift Position
IDE02719-ENG99606 -- Selector lever position made plausible - Shift Position Plausible

These should all turn up with 'selector' in the search/filter box...

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i searched for the word selector and don't recall any of these come up. what am i missing?
 
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i searched for the word selector and don't recall any of these come up. what am i missing?
I'm not sure what you're missing. Is it possible you made a typo?

In any case, since I've given you the database identifiers, you should be able to find these. :)

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ok got it - i was looking under engine adv. measurements instead of auto trans..
anyways, the values i get match the gear lever position.
any other ideas?
thanks
 
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I think the "10763 - Starter Enable from Selector Lever Sensor System" error has something to do with this issue, as I'm not getting it every scan.
Sounds like you may have an intermittent fault...
 
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yes, for sure, if i close the switch quickly, I'm not getting the error message
 
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Also, in my last visit to the imprter's workshop, they replaced the battery as I complained i was getting "12v battery low" warning messages before starting the car.
I noticed they didn't recode the battery's serial number . all the other details were correct (battery type, manufacturer, capacity). is this critical ?
 
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I think a change to the serial number is what tells the BEM that a new battery has been installed. Post your Battery History Data and let's see what it shows.

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Pasting only the relevant part (i hope that's the right part..)

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Record 4/16: Battery change history
2018-01-17-00:08*03*069*BA2*BA21H9VBDN*09989*00105*0000*0000*0000**
       0000000km*02*069*JCB*1111111111*09989*00795*0013*0001*0000**
       0000000km*01*069*JCB*1111111111*10000*00000*0000*0000*0000**
17/1/18 is the date I've been in the garage . the serial number is wrong though, the one on the (new) battery is longer - BA2170930U0DN
 
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Pasting only the relevant part (i hope that's the right part..)

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Record 4/16: Battery change history
2018-01-17-00:08*03*069*BA2*BA21H9VBDN*09989*00105*0000*0000*0000**
       0000000km*02*069*JCB*1111111111*09989*00795*0013*0001*0000**
       0000000km*01*069*JCB*1111111111*10000*00000*0000*0000*0000**
17/1/18 is the date I've been in the garage . the serial number is wrong though, the one on the (new) battery is longer - BA2170930U0DN
Then it seems your BEM knows the battery has been changed. If it was mine, I wouldn't try "correct" the serial number at this point.

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Thanks, i won't touch it.
Any other thought about the "starter system" error message?
I forgot to mention, that as part of the multimedia upgrade, I installed Connects2 Infodapter which allows me to control the car's settings through the Alpine screen and use the wrs button to change driving modes.
I don't think it has anything to do with the error as it started to appear some time after the Infodapter installation.
 
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Also, I'm trying to figure out this under airbags
Code:
 Supply Voltage 
          B201C 00 [008] - Implausible Signal
          [Powersupply implausible signal]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4

From what I understand, 4 fault priority is kind of high. Any thought what could this be?
 
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Also, I'm trying to figure out this under airbags
Code:
 Supply Voltage 
          B201C 00 [008] - Implausible Signal
          [Powersupply implausible signal]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4

From what I understand, 4 fault priority is kind of high. Any thought what could this be?
If you clear it, does it come back?

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yes, just found a scan from November, same error there. I've cleared all the errors several times since
 
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Manged to solve the problem - it was the VW Infodapter causing this error http://www.connects2.co.uk/Product/ProductItem/CTUSK02
once disconnected, warning message and beeping gone.

Still getting the selector error under gearbox though
Code:
10763 - Starter Enable from Selector Lever Sensor System 
          P1734 00 [002] - -
          Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
 
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Still getting the selector error under gearbox though
Code:
10763 - Starter Enable from Selector Lever Sensor System 
          P1734 00 [002] - -
          Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
From the multiple posts about this intermittent error on briskoda.net it would appear that a faulty selector switch is a common problem on the Octavia III.
 
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