A6 Oem towbar install.

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OK so I have an end to my story.


Swivel Bar off Ebay. £200

Westfalia Electrics kit for 13 pin electrics (facelift version) £170. It comes with the exact same module Audi will sell you for £250 but with the Audi branding removed. It was a gamble, VCDS proves the guts are identical.

Wibutec Harness (only required if you really want the light on the release handle to work and don't want to cut connectors off the OEM harness and Westfalia harness and solder them together. I didn't really want to do that. I wasn't really bothered about the LED working.


So, I tried coding it all with VCDS and although the guides I got off another forum gave the correct byte/bit info I was unable to code the ABS module as the security login didn't work in the current version of VCDS, the light on the release handle didn't work and I got no indication on the dash that the bar was hanging down (not locked in either position).

Being a bit impatient I took the car to a Westfalia dealer whose coding attempt was shocking. The only thing they did was to add the trailer module at address 69 and change the trunk module code. No change to engine, brakes, central convenience of central electrical. The trailer board lights worked but it didn't disable the reversing sensors etc. I got a refund then put it back to as before.

I bit the bullet and took it to AUDI. They charged me £120 and it was 100% successful. If the bar is swinging I get a "check tow bracket" warning on the instruments. I get a trailer behind the car on the MMI when I select reverse (as did I with VCDS), and the release bracket lights work. Best of all I'm confident that all the other functions such as trailer stability program etc will now work if I need it.

I really don't get why the VCDS coding did not get the release bracket lights working. Clearly the wiring was all correct, so something in the way AUDI code it makes a difference, even off all the bits are the same as vcds suggest it should be afterwards. Plus the database for my car at AUDI now has the changes stored and my warranty is intact. It cost me a bit more in the long run but as I only paid £170 for the control module rather than £250-ish Audi would charge, it offset the coding cost a bit.

Hope this helps others with choosing a path if they choose to give this a go. Incidentally I saw someone selling 3 brand new swivelling bars for £200 each last week on ebay.

Dave
 
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Mind posting a fresh Auto-Scan? Something has to be different!

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Sorry, for some reason I didn't get a notification of your post Uwe. I'll get a scan off it in the next day or so.

I did copy/ past all the coding so they were next to one another and checked every module and after Audi coding it looked identical to my post VCDS code attempt for all modules with the exception of the ABS module - remember I could not get a working security access for that module. I cannot see the ABS module having an effect on that LED but stranger things have happened at sea as they say.

There were changes to the workshop code obviously as the AUDI garage doing the work put their stamp on it. Also VCID had changed on some but not all modules. I never really investigated what exactly what the VCID is. Could you elaborate on that?

I'll get the scan to you soon.

Cheers

Dave
 
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Here you go UWE. Note how since Audi coded it the error I was getting with the CAN gateway after my VCDS coding attempt has also gone away...

If you can find anything please do share :)

Code:
Wednesday,28,March,2018,19:00:54:28626
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 18.1.0.2 (x64)
Data version: 20180122 DS285.1
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WAUZZZ4G0FN0
Mileage: 55135km-34259mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 4G-AU57 (4G8)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 15 16 17 19 20 28 3B 42 44 46 52 53 55 5F
          62 69 6D 72 A9 AC C0

VIN: WAUZZZ4G0FN094141   Mileage: 55135km-34259miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
20-High Beam Assist. -- Status: OK 0000
28-HVAC, Rear -- Status: OK 0000
3B-Sensor Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
6D-Trunk Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
A9-Struct. Borne Sound -- Status: OK 0000
AC-Reductant Control -- Status: OK 0000
C0-Act. for Ext. Noise -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CVUA)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4G0 907 589 D    HW: 4G0 907 589 B
   Component: 3.0BTD EDC17  H23 0002  
   Revision: 54H23---    
   Coding: 122A4032253603030000
   Shop #: WSC 62192 001 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM30BTD0114G0907589D 001002
   ROD: EV_ECM30BTD0114G0907589D.rod
   VCID: 35671C0E942EA4ED56-8060

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 

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Address 02: Auto Trans (J217)       Labels:| 0BK-927-156.clb
   Part No SW: 4G0 927 158 AK    HW: 0BK 927 156 AM
   Component: 0BK 30RTDIRdW H19 1003  
   Revision: --H19---    
   Coding: 000001
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMAL551211 002022
   ROD: EV_TCMAL551211_002_AU48.rod
   VCID: 77FBD606CEA296FD84-8022

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 4G0 907 379 S    HW: 4G0 907 379 S
   Component: ESP9 Premium  H01 0530  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 49A79E4192E57982BB00
   Shop #: WSC 62192 001 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ESP9BOSCHAU57X 004018
   ROD: EV_ESP9BOSCHAU57X.rod
   VCID: 418F78DED0E6184DFA-8014

No fault code found.

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J393)       Labels:. 8K0-907-064-05.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 907 064 FN    HW: 4H0 907 064 EN
   Component: BCM2 2.0      H36 0560  
   Revision: 00002001    
   Coding: 01B9704E000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   VCID: 7AFDCF32F5B08B95FB-802E

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 4H0 905 852 C    HW: 4H0 905 852 C
   Component: J764 ELV MLB  H40 0046 
   Serial number: 3215000077200013    

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 4G0-820-043-4Z.clb
   Part No SW: 4G0 820 043 CD    HW: 4G0 820 043 CD
   Component: KLIMA 4 ZONEN H14 0112  
   Serial number: 24041500041105
   Coding: 36221178210000
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirCondiComfoUDS 003008
   ROD: EV_AirCondiComfoUDS_003.rod
   VCID: 63C392566A3A6A5DC8-8036

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 4H0 907 063 DH    HW: 4H0 907 063 AH
   Component: BCM1 2.0      H20 0311  
   Revision: 15020001    Serial number: 00001057617501
   Coding: 0105001440349FE0410140C3000018000F9DE7082F08020100000894E100150200400024030000
   Shop #: WSC 62192 001 1048576
   VCID: 71EFE81EA8C6C8CD4A-8024

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4G2 955 119     HW: 4G8 955 119 A  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: WWS57X 150319  H37 0080 
   Serial number:         150326222926
   Coding: 0045F7

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8U0 955 559 B    HW: 8U0 955 559 B  Labels: 8U0-955-559.CLB
   Component: G397_RLFS  H06 0002 
   Serial number: 23915170            
   Coding: 02006D

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 4G0 941 531 BE    HW: 4G0 941 531 BE
   Component: E1 - LDS  H07 0044 
   Serial number: 17 04 2015  00000475

   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 4H0 907 658     HW: 4H0 907 658 
   Component: AQ_Hum_Sensor  H03 0003 
   Serial number: 002944A7000000000001

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 4H0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 959 655 H    HW: 4H0 959 655 H
   Component: Airbag10.43   H82 0086  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003P1004DVPG
   Coding: 30333130313730323737554A305234473053
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaAU10BPAAU64X 001014
   ROD: EV_AirbaAU10BPAAU64X_VW51.rod
   VCID: 3B730A36B20A729DA0-806E

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3575HRB401A5312UGGH8

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3585HRB404T3761S6PM$

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3515JRB405P370PIIORC

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3525JRB400U54Q465P7G

   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3554VRB400254Q46NGMQ

   Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3564VRB400254Q46M0MA

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:. 4H0-953-568.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 953 568 K    HW: 4H0 953 568 K
   Component: Lenks.Modul   H06 0005  
   Revision: C0068538    Serial number: 90862ODI000RH 
   Coding: 000035
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   VCID: 3B730A36BA0A729DA0-806E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4G0 951 528 A    HW: 4G0 951 528 A
   Component: E221 - MFL  H08 0010 
   Serial number: 04 04 2015  A0012114

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:. 4H0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 4G8 920 985 L    HW: 4G8 920 985 L
   Component: TDieGb        H08 0043  
   Revision: 04001037    Serial number: 658220415596032
   Coding: 33AE12000B412600010000
   Shop #: WSC 63606 001 104857
   ASAM Dataset: EV_RBD4K 004048
   ROD: EV_RBD4K_AU57.rod
   VCID: 40897DDADBEC1145F5-8014

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4G8 907 468     HW: 4G8 907 468 
   Component: J533--Gateway H13 0075  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 00000001818093
   Coding: C0CD078118
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewPkoUDS 001024
   ROD: EV_GatewPkoUDS_001_AU57.rod
   VCID: 75E7DC0ED4AEE4ED96-8020

   Battery Monitoring Control Module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8T0 915 181     HW: 8T0 915 181 
   Component: J367-BDMHella  H03 8041 
   Serial number: 9703916203          

   Voltage stabilizer: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 663 F    HW: 8K0 959 663 F
   Component: J532_DCDCStab  H23 0022 
   Serial number: 1502080000000000019F

No fault code found.

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Address 20: High Beam Assist. (J844)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4H0 857 511     HW: 4H0 857 511 
   Component: FLA           H04 0021  
   Revision: AA001002    
   Coding: 04028264747464545425363E00
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   VCID: 67DB86469602067D14-8032

No fault code found.

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Address 28: HVAC, Rear (E265)       Labels:* 4G0-919-158.clb
   Part No SW: 4G0 919 158 Q    HW: 4G0 919 158 Q
   Component: KLIMA FOND    H08 0112  
   Serial number: 28041500041962
   Coding: 22
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ClimaContrUnitRearUDS 003004
   ROD: EV_ClimaContrUnitRearUDS_003.rod
   VCID: 3D77042EAC1E7CAD9E-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 3B: Sensor Elect. (J849)       Labels: 4G0-907-637.clb
   Part No SW: 4G0 907 637 H    HW: 4G0 907 637 D
   Component: SARA 3D       H04 0056  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: EJ1BPA720H16ZJ
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SARA2 005012
   ROD: EV_SARA2.rod
   VCID: 336322169A5ABADD78-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4G8 959 793 J    HW: 4G8 959 793 G
   Component: TSG FA        H03 0507  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 011C16014001620002080002
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   VCID: 479B66C6F6C2267D34-8012

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels:| 4G0-909-144.clb
   Part No SW: 4G0 909 144 S    HW: 4G0 909 144 G
   Component: RCEPS         H43 0012  
   Revision: 00001000    Serial number: 0013709395
   Coding: 101000010001
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_RCEPS 009013
   ROD: EV_RCEPS_009.rod
   VCID: 397F103EB836408DB2-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv. (J393)       Labels:. 4H0-907-064-46.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 907 064 FN    HW: 4H0 907 064 EN
   Component: BCM2 2.0      H36 0560  
   Revision: 00002001    Serial number: 0367213645    
   Coding: 013B0622A0B93000C320090420010F470000000000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 62192 001 1048576
   VCID: 7AFDCF32F5B08B95FB-802E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4G0 951 177 
   Component: DWA-Sensor  H01 0010 

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501 

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4G8 959 792 J    HW: 4G8 959 792 G
   Component: TSG BF        H03 0507  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 011C16014401620002080002
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   VCID: 46856BC2F1C83F75CF-8012

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake (----)       Labels: 4H0-907-801.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 907 801 H    HW: 4H0 907 801 A
   Component: EPB-4         H04 0015  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 00000001443451
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ParkiBrake 001028
   ROD: EV_ParkiBrake_VW51.rod
   VCID: 2D57346E7C7EEC2D2E-8078

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range (J745)       Labels:| 4H4-907-357-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 4H4 907 357 E    HW: 7P6 907 357 B
   Component: MxB-ECU       001 0100  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 04FE02102A630200
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulAUDIMXBAU64X 005009
   ROD: EV_HeadlRegulAUDIMXBAU64X_005_AU57.rod
   VCID: 3461210A9F54BDE561-8060

   Led Headlamp Powermodule Left: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 7PP 941 472 J    HW: 7PP 941 472 J  Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
   Component: LED LeiMo li.  H07 7560 
   Coding: E01E00

   Led Headlamp Powermodule Right: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 7PP 941 472 J    HW: 7PP 941 472 J  Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
   Component: LED LeiMo re.  H07 7560 
   Coding: E01E00

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 4G1 035 021 H    HW: 4G1 035 021 
   Component: MU-H-LND-EU   041 0924  
   Serial number: A588D0F7511415
   Coding: 017502010000000013111102000A00132F0006E7F1700100DF
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MUHig6C3Gen2HBAS 001115
   ROD: EV_MUHig6C3Gen2HBAS_AU49.rod
   VCID: 1F4BDEA606D20EBDAC-804A

   Data medium: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: V03 959 801 FD    HW: -----------
   Component: ECE 2017/2018  --- 0161 
   Serial number: --------------------

   Display unit 1 for multimedia system: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 4G1 919 605 A    HW: 4G1 919 605 A
   Component: DU8 C7 SV  H63 0007 
   Serial number: AUZ8Z9FY801EKQ      

   Multimedia Operating Unit: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 4G2 919 610 F    HW: 4G2 919 610 F
   Component: E380 BDT C7  H20 0250 
   Serial number: 90349ODM0007G       

   Compact Disc Database: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: V03 959 800 EG    HW: -----------
   Component: Gracenote2  --- 1012 
   Serial number: --------------------

2 Faults Found:
3083 - GSM antenna 2 
          B1533 11 [009] - Short to Ground
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 4
                    Reset counter: 132
                    Mileage: 52751 km
                    Date: 2018.02.21
                    Time: 09:18:39

                    Voltage terminal 30: 14.2 V

3086 - Antenna for Telephone Mount 
          B1564 01 [008] - Electrical Failure
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 103
                    Reset counter: 172
                    Mileage: 52751 km
                    Date: 2018.02.21
                    Time: 09:18:38

                    Voltage terminal 30: 14.2 V
                    Status of telephone-Antenna diagnostic: OK
                    Status of telephone-Telephone baseplate diagnostic: not connected
                    Status of telephone-Handset in handset holder (cradle): not selected
                    Status of telephone-Handset holder (cradle): not connected


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Address 62: Door, Rear Left (J388)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4G8 959 795 J    HW: 4G8 959 795 G
   Component: TSG HL        H03 0507  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 010814004001620002080002
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   VCID: 499F60FEE0D6D00D22-801C

No fault code found.

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Address 69: Trailer (J345)       Labels:| 4H0-907-383-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 4G8 907 383 B    HW: 4G8 907 383 B
   Component: Anhaenger     H20 0160  
   Revision: 7B001003    Serial number: 0439624912
   Coding: 0100000202000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TrailFunctGener2Hella 001005
   ROD: EV_TrailFunctGener2Hella_VW26.rod
   VCID: 336322169A5ABADD78-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 6D: Trunk Elect. (----)       Labels:* Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 4G9 959 107 C    HW: 4G9 959 107 B
   Component: HDSG-Modul    H05 0151  
   Revision: 14005001    Serial number: 102500545
   Coding: 093205C011
   Shop #: WSC 62192 001 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HDSGAu572 001022
   ROD: EV_HDSGAu571.rod
   VCID: 36651B028928AFF55F-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right (J389)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4G8 959 795 J    HW: 4G8 959 795 G
   Component: TSG HR        H03 0507  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 010814004001620002080002
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   VCID: 499F60FEE0D6D00D22-801C

No fault code found.

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Address A9: Struct. Borne Sound (J869)       Labels: 4H0-907-159.clb
   Part No SW: 4G0 907 159 D    HW: 4H0 907 159 A
   Component: SAS-GEN 2     H07 0007  
   Serial number: 150408200359
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SoundActuaGen2AU64X 003010
   ROD: EV_SoundActuaGen2AU64X.rod
   VCID: 2E5533627178973517-807A

No fault code found.

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Address AC: Reductant Control (J880)       Labels: 4G0-907-355.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 907 355 D    HW: 4G0 907 355 B
   Component: SCR-Stg-G2    H10 0012  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 150980914
   ASAM Dataset: EV_RDCMA00100 008040
   ROD: EV_RDCMA00100_008.rod
   VCID: 2D57346E7C7EEC2D2E-8078

No fault code found.

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Address C0: Act. for Ext. Noise (J943)       Labels: 4G0-907-160.clb
   Part No SW: 4G0 907 160 E    HW: 4G0 907 160 B
   Component: SAS-GEN 2 AGA H09 0011  
   Serial number: 150416200006
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ActuaForExterNoiseUDS 003013
   ROD: EV_ActuaForExterNoiseUDS.rod
   VCID: 275BC6465E82C67DD4-8072

No fault code found.

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Differences are listed as before followed by after. I compared the scan from Sunday,15,October,2017,17:50:47:28626 to the one posted Wednesday,28,March,2018,19:00:54:28626. (The VCIDs don't matter, those are for support and debugging, so I'm excluding them)
Code:
Address 01: Engine (J623-CVUA)       Labels: None
   Coding: 122A4032252603030000
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200

Address 01: Engine (J623-CVUA)       Labels: None   
   Coding: 122A4032253603030000
   Shop #: WSC 62192 001 1048576

Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels: Redir Fail! Coding: 49A79E4192E579829B00 Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200 Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels: Redir Fail! Coding: 49A79E4192E57982BB00 Shop #: WSC 62192 001 1048576 Side note. I believe those 03 modules require a special diagnostic step before they can be re-coded even to the same value.
Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels: Redir Fail! Coding: 0105001440349FE0410140C3000018000F9DC7082F08020100000894E100150200400024030000 Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200 Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels: Redir Fail! Coding: 0105001440349FE0410140C3000018000F9DE7082F08020100000894E100150200400024030000 Shop #: WSC 62192 001 1048576
Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels:| 4H0-920-xxx-17.clb Coding: 33A612000B412600010000 Shop #: WSC 63606 001 1048576 Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels:. 4H0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1 Coding: 33AE12000B412600010000 Shop #: WSC 63606 001 104857
Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels: None picked up a new slave Voltage stabilizer: Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 663 F HW: 8K0 959 663 F Component: J532_DCDCStab H23 0022 Serial number: 1502080000000000019F That may be related to the VCDS version rather than Trailer related config. The WSC did not change in 19.
Address 46: Central Conv. (J393) Labels:. 4H0-907-064-46.clb Coding: 013B0622A0B93000C320090400010F470000000000000000000000000000 Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200 Address 46: Central Conv. (J393) Labels:. 4H0-907-064-46.clb Coding: 013B0622A0B93000C320090420010F470000000000000000000000000000 Shop #: WSC 62192 001 1048576
Address 6D: Trunk Elect. (----) Labels:* Redir Fail! Coding: 093205C010 Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200 Address 6D: Trunk Elect. (----) Labels:* Redir Fail! Part No SW: 4G9 959 107 C HW: 4G9 959 107 B Coding: 093205C011 Shop #: WSC 62192 001 1048576
69 was not in the oldest scan I used for the baseline but the final was: Address 69: Trailer (J345) Labels:| 4H0-907-383-V2.clb Part No SW: 4G8 907 383 B HW: 4G8 907 383 B Component: Anhaenger H20 0160 Revision: 7B001003 Serial number: 0439624912 Coding: 0100000202000000 Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000 ASAM Dataset: EV_TrailFunctGener2Hella 001005 ROD: EV_TrailFunctGener2Hella_VW26.rod VCID: 336322169A5ABADD78-8066

We can go back through this thread and compare the suggestions to the final values. (I'm working on this while our phones are on and can't do that at the moment.)
 
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Hi Dana,

I think what Uwe was interested in was comparing the scan after my coding attempt posted on Jan 28 and what it’s like now to see what if anything the Audi garage did that I did not (apart from the Abs module which we already know about. No real point comparing it to prior the trailer module fitted.

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Continued, I compared the above to Niels' suggestions and he had each of the new values perfect but 17 wasn't in the list. After looking at the WSC and which bit was tweaked I suspect that's unrelated (Lap Timer) and likely tweaked with VCDS for unrelated reasons. In conclusion his original instructions appear to match the SVM config perfectly. I believe the lack-of ABS coding is related to the missing label file. VCDS needs a label before a special SA code such as S11820 can be used. I'll make sure that ABS module is on the to-do list.

Please install the VCDS Beta 17.12.0

Disable start/stop with button (if installed - placed at gearshift or middle of instrument)

Change WSC etc. to none zero in VCDS, see here.

[19-CAN Gateway] > [Installation list] > marker on [69] > [Save coding] (see here)

Explanation
[Controller number] > New coding
Code:
[09] > 0105001440349FE0410140C3000018000F9DE7082F08020100000894E100150200400024030000 (Byte 18 Bit 5)
[46] > 013B0622A0B93000C320090420010F470000000000000000000000000000 12.5)
[01] > 122A4032253603030000 (Byte 5 Bit4)
[03] > 49A79E4192E57982BB00 (Byte 8 Bit 5)
[6D] > 093205C011 (Byte 4 Bit 0)

For [ABS-03] you must enter Secure Access before enter new coding, use: S11820

Address 69: Trailer (J345) was coded to 0100000202000000 in the earlier scans and that matches the newest configuration so I don't believe that was incorrect the entire time. In conclusion I believe the lack of Trailer Installed ABS coding might have been to blame.

Edit, FS#1490 created.

I also failed to thank Dave for the final post-SVM scan. It was very helpful!
 
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Hi Dana,

Yes the addition of the lap timer was subsequent to all the trailer thing so can be ignored. If the only other thing you can find is the anomaly with the ABS module then that would suggest it is to blame for the lack of indication however please bear in mind I’m not the only one to have had this problem when using vcds to code this. Others who have successfully coded the ABS module have also experienced the same anomalies so I’m not convinced. I also don’t see a logical connection between ABS and the position of the swivel bar but accept that software can be intertwined and dependant on lots of conditions.

Short of trying this again I guess we’ll never know, and I’m not in a rush to risk breaking what is working now. Maybe someone else trying this in future can learn something from it.

There are lots of things on my car without label files. If there’s anything I can do to help you guys build some then don’t hesitate. I once did something for your uk reseller Ilexa on my daughters Bora and my Passat to help build label files for those marques so happy to do so again.

Just tonight when getting you the auto scan I went to alter the speed at which the high beam assist cut in but the adaptations drop down was empty of text, contrary to several posts on the subject. I figured it out on this module based on the numbers in the few populated channels but it’s not always so obvious and as I intend keeping the motor several years, the more info I have the better it is for me and everyone else with a similar motor.

I really value what you guys do for us.

Regards,

Dave
 
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Thinking about parameters that were uploaded by ODIS that solved the problem?
 
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I don't think so in this case, it looks like [69] is not touched/programmed.
Just coding for [03] was missing.
 
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Kind of off topic but related if you look at one of my first posts in the thread.

I’ve said that at some point my car developed a fault code related to mobile phone antennas and that after fitting the towbar another appeared. They are both shown in my scans above. Cardiff Audi tried several times to sort it and they kept telling me they had done it despite vcds telling me it was still faulty. They even showed me a clean ODIS report.

I recently put the car into Bridgend Audi for a warranty service and asked them to look at the problem with module 5F. There was no argument about my use of Vcds to see the fault. They checked it out for me and in two days it’s sorted. Both antenna behind the rear bumper were faulty and they’ve fitted a newer up rev of them. Vcds gives a clear scan now.

Difference in attitude between the two service receptionists is remarkable. I now have a car with a totally clear scan. Result!

Im guessing that Cardiff were able to mask the fault on the ODIS scan they gave me? Maybe change the fail threshold or something?

If anyone else has the same codes they may now know which antenna to look at. Cardiff claimed to have changed the shark fin on the roof twice but the fault remained and wasn’t even related to that item.
 
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Cardiff claimed to have changed the shark fin on the roof twice but the fault remained and wasn’t even related to that item.
Sounds like yet another case of serious lack of product knowledge by the dealer - in my experience of UK Audi dealers (having owned Audis for 17 years) there are a few good dealers but many useless dealers who get completely confused by car electronics.
 
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Sounds like yet another case of serious lack of product knowledge by the dealer - in my experience of UK Audi dealers (having owned Audis for 17 years) there are a few good dealers but many useless dealers who get completely confused by car electronics.
This sort of thing is not unique to the UK. ;)

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It all went pear shaped when my son, who'd just spent 3 days polishing the A6 before it went to Cardiff for the first time pointed out a scratch on the bonnet which they had clearly done. It was mint going in. Damaged on collection. the service receptionist took an instant dislike to me after that. He hissed every time I used the VCDS term and didn't like the fact that I knew a bit about technology. OK Maybe his hands were tied by "The brand" insisting that they only go by what ODIS shows them, but to go to the extent of making their ODIS printout clear when another branch showed a fault - that's taking it a bit far. I wont be going to Cardiff again any time soon.
 
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