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    Quote Originally Posted by Dana View Post
    Per a PM from the OP: Hex 8C Jetta (162/VW361) Rest if Word (ROW) fixed up the Byte 18 problem. That may be valuable to someone with a RoW 162 chassis sedan that needs to get factory functions re-enabled.


    I agree with iichel here. Installing a 55-Xenon range module is a requirement for assistance from us directly .. but more importantly having a fully functional AFS system is a much better driving experience and safer for all oncoming traffic. The conventional short coding he provided (1446940) would apply to the older CAN protocol 55 type. We have that Software Part Numbers 5M0-907-357 through 5M0-907-357-D split shown on this page: VW Golf (1K) Headlight Aim Control (Xenon with AFS)

    Software Part Numbers 5M0-907-357-E and above are the newer UDS type. What we see frequently is new UDS modules sourced from 3rd party suppliers that have No End of Line Programming DTCs which prevent coding and Basic Settings. For that reason I would try to retrofit the complete system from an older CAN setup if possible.

    Next, factory installed BCMs with part numbers other than ?K0-937-087-?? (i.e.087) rarely have the terminals inside the controller for proper high beam shutter activation. There are some exceptions to that rule .. but they are rare.

    This may not be the most up to date revision but PL24 shows this BCM as the direct replacement by VIN: 5K0-937-087-R/ZHB

    So, if you wanted to install a BCM that was guaranteed compatible with this vehicle and install all of the components required for a factory-like AFS system I would double check to make sure that number is the latest version and install the higher end BCM. You would still have to iron out the AFS details after a 55 module is installed and communicating.
    Hey Dana,

    Thanks for this information. I am currently looking into acquiring the wiring and modules required for the Automatic Leveling systems. I will work on this as soon as I acquire it. Thanks for this, so my headlight level would be pending until i acquire this.

    As for the CECM, i spoke to a friend in the UK with a VW bearing the same CECM who was able to get their headlights fully functional.

    I used some information they supplied me and was able to get my high beam flash working. using the following code "08000A3A802DE1C040880080100089640304000850808960E4 8400000040"

    However, the DRLs arent working still. I was able to get them on for a few seconds by disabling the "LED-Daytime Running Light (DRL) Module for Parking/Position Light & Daytime Running Light (DRL)" and saving (the DRLs came on for a second and then came off)

    Would you be able to advise me onto what codes i can look into to get the DRLs working?

    Thanks

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    No problem. One exception to the 087 BCM rule is my own 2012 Tiggys SEL that was born with a 086 BCM: WVGBV7AX1CW000438 The Xenon Headlights with LED DRLs (facelift in 2012) were factory installed so it is possible your BCM may have the proper terminals in it. I didn't want to give you false hope but someone else reporting success with the same BCM is optimistic.

    Please post the resulting scan with that coding entered including any fault codes that set after operation of the lights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dana View Post
    No problem. One exception to the 087 BCM rule is my own 2012 Tiggys SEL that was born with a 086 BCM: WVGBV7AX1CW000438 The Xenon Headlights with LED DRLs (facelift in 2012) were factory installed so it is possible your BCM may have the proper terminals in it. I didn't want to give you false hope but someone else reporting success with the same BCM is optimistic.

    Please post the resulting scan with that coding entered including any fault codes that set after operation of the lights.
    I totally understand.

    With the codes given, most of the faults were gone. I'm left with two pairs:-

    Here's a copy of the scan

    Code:
    Friday,26,January,2018,19:46:53:42155
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
    VCDS Version: 18.1.0.2 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4411.4
    Data version: 20180122 DS285.1
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: WVWZZZ16ZDM060166   License Plate: 
    Mileage: 30450km-18920mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    Chassis Type: 16-VW32 (7N0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 25 2E 42 44 46 4F 52 56 62 72
              77
    
    VIN: WVWZZZ16ZDM060166   Mileage: 30450km-18920miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
    77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (J623-CTHD)       Labels:. 03C-907-309-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 03C 906 026 BG    HW: 03C 907 309 Q
       Component: 1.4l R4 TSI   H02 3743  
       Revision: LMH02---    Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 00250012002400000000
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00189
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM14TSI01103C906026BG 001002
       ROD: EV_ECM14TSI01103C906026AB.rod
       VCID: 66954BA358ED8787F29-8032
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 1110 0101
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 0AM-927-769.clb
       Part No SW: 0AM 300 058 P    HW: 0AM 927 769 D
       Component: GSG DSG AG7     431 3652  
       Revision: 00043014    Serial number: CU501211266331
       Coding: 0000020
       Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
       VCID: 3E25C3C36C7DFF475A9-806A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BL    HW: 1K0 907 379 BL
       Component: ESP MK60EC1   H31 0152  
       Revision: 00H31001    
       Coding: A63B60F8212800FA650C06EA841F0080211800
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 7DA704CF2DFB245F033-8028
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 5K0-907-044.clb
       Part No SW: 3AA 907 044 AF    HW: 3AA 907 044 AF
       Component: Climatronic   H03 0303  
       Revision: 00001K02    
       Coding: 0010004002
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00119
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01010
       ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_VW32.rod
       VCID: 74B121EB1E3165177CD-8020
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 937 086 M    HW: 5K0 937 086 M
       Component: BCM PQ35 M    021 0068  
       Revision: BC021001    
       Coding: 08000A3A803FE1C040880080100089640304000850808960E48400000040
       Shop #: WSC 00066 123 12345
       VCID: 3E25C3C3607DFF475A9-806A
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 
       Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0104 
       Coding: 000000
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
       Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501 
       Coding: 000000
    
    2 Faults Found:
    02745 - Bulb for Daytime Running Light; Left 
                010 - Open or Short to Plus
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101010
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 249
                        Mileage: 30452 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2018.01.26
                        Time: 19:44:54
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            Term 15 On
                        Voltage: 12.20 V
                            ON
                            ON
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
    
    02746 - Bulb for Daytime Running Light; Right 
                010 - Open or Short to Plus
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101010
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 249
                        Mileage: 30452 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2018.01.26
                        Time: 19:44:54
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            Term 15 On
                        Voltage: 12.20 V
                            ON
                            ON
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
    
    
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    Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:| 1Q0-919-475.clb
       Part No SW: 5C6 919 475     HW: 7E0 919 475 A
       Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H10 0005  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 07381302100884
       Coding: 108101
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00119
       ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA18VW3610000 001003
       ROD: EV_EPHVA18VW3610000.rod
       VCID: 71BF28FF6123503F97B-8024
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 5C0 959 655 C    HW: 5C0 959 655 C
       Component: AirbagVW10    013 0613  
       Serial number: 003G6M085PSR  
       Coding: 00003241
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360 A01014
       ROD: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360.rod
       VCID: 323DE7F3A4A52B27AE1-8066
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354 
       Component: S.Sens.Fahr.V  H02 ---- 
       Serial number: 3572MSME560E1376ZZZZ
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354 
       Component: S.Sens.Beif.V  H02 ---- 
       Serial number: 3582MSME040C1376ZZZR
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 351 A    HW: 5K0 959 351 A
       Component: S.Sens.Fahr.H  H02 ---- 
       Serial number: 3516KSME6C726420ZZZS
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 351 A    HW: 5K0 959 351 A
       Component: S.Sens.Beif.H  H02 ---- 
       Serial number: 3526KSME0A096520ZZZM
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5K0-953-569.clb
       Part No SW: 1K5 953 507 T    HW: 5K0 953 549 B
       Component: Lenks.Modul   008 0090  
       Revision: --------    Serial number:  90422LKU0004X
       Coding: 088A140000
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00187
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGKUDS A05001
       ROD: EV_SMLSNGKUDS_A05.rod
       VCID: 42DDB73314059BA73E1-8016
    
       Multifunction steering wheel control module: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542 C    HW: 5K0 959 542 C  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
       Component: E221__MFL-TAS  H31 0037 
       Serial number: 0053220 FLE 20130103
       Coding: 820000
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
       Part No SW: 5C6 920 872     HW: 5C6 920 872 
       Component: KOMBI         H07 0705  
       Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 171B00
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00119
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04716
       ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW32.rod
       VCID: 6A8D3F934CF5A3E7D61-803E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
       Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 AH    HW: 7N0 907 530 AH
       Component: J533  Gateway H50 1634  
       Revision:   H50       Serial number: 04011303290002
       Coding: 351003
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 76B51BE308CD7707429-8022
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
       Component: IMMO          H07 0705  
       Serial number:               
       Coding: 000000
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03709
       ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
       VCID: 6A8D3F934CF5A3E7D61-803E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels:. 5N0-035-342.lbl
       Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 F    HW: 5N0 035 342 F
       Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H19 0550  
       Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7664004002    
       Coding: 010100
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 2A0DFF938CF563E7161-807E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
       Part No SW: 561 959 701     HW: 3C0 959 793 B
       Component: TUER-SG FT    002 0515  
       Revision: 13110009    Serial number: 0006013436
       Coding: 0002B5
       Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
       ROD: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X_VW32.rod
       VCID: 5BE36A5793AFCA6F5D7-800E
    
       Slave Driver: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C0 959 704 B    HW: 3C0 959 794 C  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
       Component: J389__TSG-HR  008 1508 
       Serial number: 00000007488986      
       Coding: 000290
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
       Part No: 1K0 909 144 P
       Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 69     3305  
       Revision: 00H22000    
       Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
       VCID: 372BD6E74347CE0F99F-8062
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II (J520)       Labels:. 1K0-907-532.clb
       Part No SW: 7N0 907 532     HW: 7N0 907 530 AH
       Component: EZE_2         H50 1634  
       Revision:   H50       Serial number: 04011303290002
       Coding: 01030100
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 6FBB2E87779746CF81F-803A
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 591     HW: 5K0 959 591 
       Component: J245 PS41.022  H10 0007 
       Serial number:     WRH0007POUD     
       Coding: 180000
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
       Part No SW: 561 959 702     HW: 3C0 959 792 B
       Component: TUER-SG BT    002 0515  
       Revision: 15110009    Serial number: 0006158935
       Coding: 0002B4
       Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
       ROD: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X_VW32.rod
       VCID: 5CE1694B96A1CD5754D-8008
    
       Slave Passenger: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C0 959 703 B    HW: 3C0 959 795 C  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
       Component: J388__TSG-HL  008 1508 
       Serial number: 00000007522919      
       Coding: 000290
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio (J0503)       Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 035 190 B    HW: 5K0 035 190 B
       Component: Radio RCD510  005 0236  
       Revision: 00000001    Serial number: VWZ1Z3M9873940
       Coding: 01000400040006
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 241111ABEED1B5972CD-8070
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels:| 7P6-035-730.clb
       Part No SW: 7P6 035 730 K    HW: 7P6 035 730 K
       Component: TELEFON       H15 3200  
       Revision: 1B001001    Serial number: 00007663943662
       Coding: 0A00000000010100
       Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVNA 002720
       ROD: EV_UHVNA_002.rod
       VCID: 3A2DCFD37CD5D367661-806E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:19, VBatt start/end: 12.3V/12.3V)-----------

    Thanks again
    Last edited by Uwe; 01-26-2018 at 05:57 PM. Reason: CODE tags

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    .......hello?

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    Seeing as it is a bulb fault thats popping up, im pretty sure the BCM is not aware of the fact you installed LED DRLs. Id focus my attention on that.

    Fault in coding, fault in adaptations and/or wrong module are all still on the table.
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    I agree with Tommy here. I would have expected coding such as this example to work:
    Code:
    08000A3A803FE1C040880080100089640304000850808960E48400040040
    You might want to make sure those headlights are equipped with LED DRL modules and then see which TFL/DRL terminals at the BCM connect to the factory side of the car harness to see if power is getting there. If the DRL power is present on the car side harness (with coding similar to my above example and handbrake off) but not at the headlight connector after the 3rd party adapter you may need to move wires in the adapter.

    Double check the factory level wiring diagrams for a Jetta in your market with LED DRLs but I think terminal 12 at each lamp is a blue/yellow trace wire. Assuming that applies to your car the BCM terminal positions should be T52a/7 and T52a/8 meaning terminals 7 and 8 in the "A" (black) main BCM connector.

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    So i've reviewed the points here and i believe we're on to something. The My vehicle is a Euro Spec jetta. The OEM Bi Xenons i've got are US Spec Lights.

    I've noticed from the adapter I got there are about 3 pins that are not covered on the headlights. Let me confirm what are working:-

    1) Both Indicators
    2) Both Low Beams
    3) Both High Beams Via Shutter
    4) Both Shutter Works
    5) Both High Beam Flash when lights are on
    6) Both Headlight Level Motors sounds when the car turns on (due to no AFS - Pending Install)

    What doesn't work (as we know) are the DRLs

    I am unable to get wiring diagrams for my vehicle after looking everywhere, i was hoping someone would be able to tell me which pins on the headlights are for which function since I am unable to get this info anywhere at the moment. I'm really hoping someone can guide me with the possible pins that may require moving to get these DRLs working.

    So for reference:-

    This is the 10 Pin Connector on my car



    The Pins



    Bi Xenon Plug on Headlights (One Pin is in the Dark)



    Kufatec Adapter 14 pin End



    Kufatec Adapter 10 pin End



    The Pins on the Kufatec Adapter

    14 pin Side





    10 pin Side




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    OK, I'm guessing that blue/yellow trace wire on the car side (which appears to be in terminal #4 of the 10 pin) is the DRL wire. To confirm I'd get an old-school incandescent test light, ground the test light to earth, stretch the VCDS laptop under the hood with the key on and handbrake off, prop the test light probe into that pin, connect to 09 and clear DTCs. If the test light bulb lights and you don't get a reoccurring DTC for whichever side of the car you are testing at that point you can confirm the wire is correct.

    You may be able to use a LED test light or a DVOM but I'm not sure what the BCM wants to see for a current draw before it flags a DTC and decides to stop sending power to the ckt.

    Either way, put the handbrake on and make sure power goes away.

    If we confirmed the proper terminal the next thing to do is see if that adapter happens to connect it to terminal 12 (T14r/12) on the headlight side or not. That should be the proper NAR pin. You may be able to use erWin VW RoW to obtain NAR wiring diagrams but if not I'd search RoW repair info for something close to this name:

    Headlamps Bixenon HID with range control, cornering lamp, LED daytime running lamps , (8IM)
    from June 2012
    which was diag No. 97

    We need to tread very lightly to avoid copyright police but this is a small snip from J519 to J861: http://ft.trillian.im/7a467daf265128...077d1gWBQi.jpg

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    Hey Dana,

    Your a God sent, thank you for this info. This saved me a lot of effort because i was just about to test each pin with my DVOM and do up an excel spread sheet with the info.

    As soon as i get back in, i will follow these instructions to check for power from the vehicle side and then i will check on the harness side for Terminal 12 as suggested.

    I will provide updates on this as soon as i try these.

    Thanks Dear

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    Hey Dana,

    So I tried the suggestion and here's the results.

    Still no DRLs...sigh

    I checked the #4 pin on the car harness and well there's power (12.01v) when the switch is off, and no power when the parking lights are on or headlights so I confirm that this is indeed the DRL Connection.

    I checked additionally and there's constant power on pin #1 (12.01v) and on pin 2 (10.0v)

    When the switch is placed in the Parking light position, there's 12,01v at pin 10

    I've just checked the Kufatec adapter and the #4 Terminal on the 10 pin side is indeed connected to the #12 Terminal on the 14pin side....

    Its either something is wrong with these lights or there's another pin responsible for the DRLs....sigh
    On the headlight side however, I tried connecting pin 4 on car side to pin 12 on the headlight side, and there's no DRL and the same with pin 14 on the headlight side.

    I did some reading and i'm understanding that some persons who weren't able to get their DRLs working, wired Terminal #13 to the BCM. In the Diagram, I am seeing a connection to the to Terminal #13 (T14r/13). Do you think this might be necessary?
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