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    Question 2008 GTI (Canadian) - TPMS import to USA

    My new wife (Canadian) and I are in the middle of a few stressful issues.
    K1 (marriage) immigration to USA for her, 9 month old boy, and trying to import her 2008 Canadian GTI only to find out that TPMS is required.

    From what I gather, her GTI has ABS and ESP. A VIN search at https://vpic.nhtsa.dot.gov/ show that "Active TPMS" is null.

    We are really hoping that the indirect TPMS can be turned on with VCDS, but I'm unsure how to confirm whether it is possible .

    I have an 05 Golf TDI and 93 Eurovan so I have a shop that might be able to help with the VCDS to turn on the TPMS. But I want to be informed and know what I'm talking about, at least slightly.

    Is there a particular model/part number of ABS that would verify that TPMS can be turned on? Or would a full AutoScan and post here allow some benevolent dictator to confirm?

    This car TPMS issue is really stressing my wife out (and me too)... her GTI is in great condition with ridiculously low miles... plus I love driving it too.

    Any advice greatly appreciated!

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    My little boy is not and issue... haha. Whoops. That sounded wrong. I'll blame that on lack of sleep.

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    Although some ABS modules were capable of supporting TPMS back then, the algorithms in them weren't sophisticated enough to meet all the US regulatory requirements, most likely the requirement that it detect a condition where all the tires are under-inflated equally. So all the US cars that had TPMS back then used a direct system....

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    I would say adding tpms to mk5 is too simple to stress about it.

    Change CCM and add sensors. Do the coding and should be enough.
    Autoscan would be helpful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
    Although some ABS modules were capable of supporting TPMS back then, the algorithms in them weren't sophisticated enough to meet all the US regulatory requirements, most likely the requirement that it detect a condition where all the tires are under-inflated equally. So all the US cars that had TPMS back then used a direct system....

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    Ughh. Well, Ive got an appt to get an Autoscan and find out more about the ABS tomorrow. Ill post back what I find.

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    Quote Originally Posted by golfi_vend View Post
    I would say adding tpms to mk5 is too simple to stress about it.

    Change CCM and add sensors. Do the coding and should be enough.
    Autoscan would be helpful.
    I wish I felt unstressed about it. From what you are saying, it sounds easy. But I see that there are many different CCMs for MK5s. And is there any concern that a USA spec CCM might cause an issue with a Canadian spec vehicle?

    If you know what part number for the correct CCM or can advise me where/who to ask to spec it, I would be very grateful.
    As for sensors, I see some like this that would presumably work with the CCM. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009YWG2RA

    I will post Autoscan results tomorrow.

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    A bit more info. We used the change noted by BlakH00 in this thread
    Following the change, the TPMS indicator shows on the dash when turning the key before starting.

    Yet, I took the GTI to the dealer, and he said that their scanner isn't picking up on it. I don't know what scanner he is using, and he didn't want to be advising code changes to a customer. Does anybody know if VW dealers typically use an inhouse scan tool and what it is? He did state that in CAN Gateway, Coding/Long, #19, that a checkbox for TPMS should be checked in order for his scanner to see TPMS as active.

    Maybe the procedure (above) I used doesn't check that box. I will investigate, but I thought I'd share.
    Any advise or input greatly appreciated...

    The Scan after change.

    Code:
    Friday,29,December,2017,11:36:49:49819
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86
    VCDS Version: 17.8.1.0
    Data version: 20171130 DS276.6
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: WVWEV71K88W168445   License Plate: 
    Mileage: 107460km-66772mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
    Scan: 01 03 08 09 0F 15 16 17 19 1C 25 42 44 46 52 55 56
    
    VIN: WVWEV71K88W168445   Mileage: 107460km-66772miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    0F-Digital Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    1C-Position Sensing -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
     
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine        Labels:. 06F-907-115-AXX.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 115 S    HW: 8P0 907 115 B
       Component: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI     0020  
       Revision: 5BH16---    Serial number: VWX7Z0GN3N67YR
       Coding: 0403010A18070160
       Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
       VCID: 366302674185E6F67B-8062
    
    1 Fault Found:
    008577 - Performance Malfunction in Cooling System 
                   P2181 - 008 -  - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00101000
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 106103 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 02:03:52
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 3159 /min
                        Load: 39.6 %
                        Speed: 108.0 km/h
                        Temperature: 75.0C
                        Temperature: 24.0C
                        Absolute Pres.: 1000.0 mbar
                        Voltage: 14.351 V
    
    Readiness: 0000 0000
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AC    HW: 1K0 907 379 AC
       Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0101  
       Revision: 00H11001    
       Coding: 0004738
       Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
       VCID: 73E5FB731277B3DE9C-8026
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 044 CQ    HW: 1K0 907 044 CQ
       Component: ClimatronicPQ35 130 1212  
       Revision: 00130022    Serial number: 00000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 78FFCC5F0B11D086A9-802C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-30-H.lbl
       Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 AJ    HW: 3C0 937 049 AJ
       Component: Bordnetz-SG     H54 2202  
       Revision: 00H54000    Serial number: 01000007715840
       Coding: 178D8F214004150047140000001400000028770B5C000100000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 91511 999 72883
       VCID: 71E9F17B686B81CE6E-8024
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K1 955 119 E  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: Wischer 071107 021  0501  
       Coding: 00038805
       Shop #: WSC 91511  
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 0F: Digital Radio        Labels: 8E0-035-593-SIR.lbl
       Part No SW: 8E0 035 593 H    HW: 8E0 035 593 H
       Component: SDAR SIRIUS     H06 0080  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: AUZ4Z7G0179201
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 2E532A07B9D5DE3633-807A
    
    1 Fault Found:
    02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated 
                000 -  - 
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100000
                        Fault Priority: 7
                        Fault Frequency: 20
                        Reset counter: 182
                        Mileage: 104495 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 13:35:22
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 AB    HW: 1K0 909 605 AB
       Component: 6L AIRBAG VW8R  034 8000  
       Revision: 05034000    Serial number: 003B6D09VZWB  
       Coding: 0013900
       Shop #: WSC 01269 785 00200
       VCID: 6CD7E00F4F496C265D-8038
    
       Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME315748627
    
       Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME31530F087
    
       Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6352QSME42232131 
    
       Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6362QSME446E0A0FV
    
       Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 63727SME107C4807%
    
       Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 63827SME0F1F2E61F
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 BD    HW: 1K0 953 549 BD
       Component: J0527           036 0070  
       Coding: 0002022
       Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
       VCID: 75E1C56B1C03ADEEB2-8020
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
       Component: E0221           002 0010
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K6 920 874 A    HW: 1K6 920 874 A
       Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 1216  
       Revision: V0002000    Serial number: VWX7Z0GN3N67YR
       Coding: 0007303
       Shop #: WSC 19410 444 98964
       VCID: 3169317BA8EBC1CE2E-8064
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V3.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 L    HW: 1K0 907 951 
       Component: J533__Gateway   H15 0180  
       Revision:   H15       Serial number: 1400K07A27014F
       Coding: E9811F060013020000
       Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
       VCID: 306F347FA3E1C8C621-8064
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 1C: Position Sensing        Labels: 1Kx-919-xxx-1C.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K6 919 879     HW: 1K6 919 879 
       Component: Kompass         001 0003  
       Revision: 00001000    Serial number: 1225223T28PM03
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 7DF1DD4B2433F5AEFA-8028
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No SW: 1K6 920 874 A    HW: 1K6 920 874 A
       Component: IMMO            VDD 1216  
       Revision: V0002000    Serial number: VWX7Z0GN3N67YR
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 3169317BA8EBC1CE2E-8064
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MIN3.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 959 701 M    HW: 1K0 959 701 M
       Component: Tuer-SG         006 1207  
       Coding: 0001077
       Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
       VCID: 387F0C5F4B91108669-806C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V3.clb
       Part No: 1K1 909 144 M
       Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.074 H08 1901  
       Shop #: WSC 00000 028 00001
       VCID: 3561056B5C83EDEE72-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 CA    HW: 1K0 959 433 CA
       Component:    KSG PQ35 G2  020 0204  
       Revision: 00020000    Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 939006885103281B0904058FB0080A0488BC00
       Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
       VCID: 71E9F17B686B81CE6E-8024
    
       Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted     
    
       Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     
    
       Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted     
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MIN3.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 959 702 M    HW: 1K0 959 702 M
       Component: Tuer-SG         006 1207  
       Coding: 0001076
       Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
       VCID: 3979095B709B098E96-806C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 1T0-907-357.lbl
       Part No: 1T0 907 357 
       Component: Dynamische LWR      0003  
       Coding: 0000003
       Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
       VCID: 74E7F86F1779B4E685-8020
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio        Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 035 180 L    HW: 1K0 035 180 L
       Component: Radio PM6       130 0037  
       Revision: 00130000    Serial number: VWZ5Z7I2297042
       Coding: 0040401
       Shop #: WSC 39612 828 149130
       VCID: 2959D91B803BB90EE6-807C
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00870 - Bass Speaker Front Left (R21) 
                011 - Open Circuit
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101011
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 33
                        Mileage: 107460 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 11:44:21
    
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:02)--------------------------
    Last edited by Uwe; 01-09-2018 at 09:58 PM. Reason: CODE tags

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