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First of all I'm really really sorry towards Ross-Tech that I'm using the space here to tell about this what is happening, but I thought it would be important in a sense that if they subdue one tool, nothing prevents them on to moving on to next one which could very well be VCDS.
So long story short. VW AG Germany has sued VCP manufacturer in Poland and their knowledgebase forum in Germany for using VAG name in their product line. As what I understood that the product itself isn't against their brand, using the VAG brand name in the product is not ok.
Now VCP forum owner has decided not to give in and is asking for donations to fight against the big faceless corporation. The liabilities they are demanding are from 5 to 6 digit figure so quite big.
This is a direct quote from VCP forum posted by mh254 :
"So, here are a few details on the warning and the current state of affairs:
The amount in dispute was stated with 250000 €, which has ever led to 3000 € cost for the opposing lawyer, which I have to pay until 03.01.2018. In addition, there is still a punished cease and desist order, which I should also signed back to 03.01.2018.
In addition, I have to specify how many of the warned interfaces I sold to whom and where I got the goods. From this then the compensation to be paid is calculated, a five-figure sum is likely to come out.
Because of the great response on Friday, I immediately had a specialist lawyer recommend me and phoned him on Friday. He then made me a modified omission statement, which we then faxed signed to the opposing lawyers. The bill was then already on Saturday in the mailbox."
I am personally not affiliated with this matter in any other way than supported the cause already by donating. Even though the tools are seen as competitive tools at least a little, but anyone who has used them know this is not the case. They are different tools and they serve different user bases but both are very useful and most welcome tools for both everyday diagnosis and much more in-deep retrofitting scene. Both tools are needed and now if VW AG is successful in subduing the other, we have a big hit on retrofitting area and is a setback to the whole modding scene. And in worst case also opens the door for more lawsuits against other modding tools.
So if you feel that supporting modding scene against big corporation is a just cause, you can send your donations here : https://paypal.me/VCPforumHilfe
Again, Sorry Uwe and others that I'm using this space for this message. If you feel that this is not belonging here, then please free feel to delete it. No hard feelings if that is done either. I just wanted to try help and bring this information to bigger audience.
So long story short. VW AG Germany has sued VCP manufacturer in Poland and their knowledgebase forum in Germany for using VAG name in their product line. As what I understood that the product itself isn't against their brand, using the VAG brand name in the product is not ok.
Now VCP forum owner has decided not to give in and is asking for donations to fight against the big faceless corporation. The liabilities they are demanding are from 5 to 6 digit figure so quite big.
This is a direct quote from VCP forum posted by mh254 :
"So, here are a few details on the warning and the current state of affairs:
The amount in dispute was stated with 250000 €, which has ever led to 3000 € cost for the opposing lawyer, which I have to pay until 03.01.2018. In addition, there is still a punished cease and desist order, which I should also signed back to 03.01.2018.
In addition, I have to specify how many of the warned interfaces I sold to whom and where I got the goods. From this then the compensation to be paid is calculated, a five-figure sum is likely to come out.
Because of the great response on Friday, I immediately had a specialist lawyer recommend me and phoned him on Friday. He then made me a modified omission statement, which we then faxed signed to the opposing lawyers. The bill was then already on Saturday in the mailbox."
I am personally not affiliated with this matter in any other way than supported the cause already by donating. Even though the tools are seen as competitive tools at least a little, but anyone who has used them know this is not the case. They are different tools and they serve different user bases but both are very useful and most welcome tools for both everyday diagnosis and much more in-deep retrofitting scene. Both tools are needed and now if VW AG is successful in subduing the other, we have a big hit on retrofitting area and is a setback to the whole modding scene. And in worst case also opens the door for more lawsuits against other modding tools.
So if you feel that supporting modding scene against big corporation is a just cause, you can send your donations here : https://paypal.me/VCPforumHilfe
Again, Sorry Uwe and others that I'm using this space for this message. If you feel that this is not belonging here, then please free feel to delete it. No hard feelings if that is done either. I just wanted to try help and bring this information to bigger audience.