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    UDS - Re-adapt Adaptive Suspension to default position -

    Hello....

    After a lot of trial/error and the help from our customer's feedback (Thank You!)
    I have a known working and revised procedure below for the re-adaptation of the UDS Level Controller.
    - Feedback is welcome! -

    This procedure is not for the 'older' non UDS vehicles, this procedure can be found here, 'Suspension Level Calibration'

    How can you tell if you have a 'UDS' Level Controller? Click here UDS vs. Non-UDS
    This is an example of a UDS Level controller when found in the Auto-Scan results:

    Code:
    Address 34: Level Control (J197)       Labels: 3Y0-907-533-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 3Y0 907 553     HW: 3Y0 907 553 
       Component: LUFE-DAEMPFER H16 1095  
       Coding: 008000
       Shop #: WSC 00083 790 00174
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirSuspe 003017
       ROD: EV_AirSuspe_AU64.rod
    This procedure is applicable for follow vehicles.

    Audi A6 (4G2) 2011 -->
    Audi A7 (4GA) 2012 -->
    Audi Q7 2011* -->
    Audi A8/A8L (4H2/4H8) 2011 -->
    Bentley Mulsanne (3Y2) 2011 -->


    Standard Ride Height in millimeter as per repair manual, use the correct PR-Code



    Brand Model:
    (PR Code) Suspension type
    Front axle Rear axle
    Audi A6 (C7 Saloon):
    (1BK) standard running gear
    384mm 382mm
    Audi A6 (C7 Avant):
    (1BK) standard running gear
    384mm 382mm
    Audi A6 (C7 Avant S):
    (2MB) sports running gear
    384mm 382mm
    Audi A6 (C7 Coupe):
    (1BK) standard running gear:
    386mm 384mm
    Audi A6 (C7 Coupe S):
    (2MB) sports running gear
    384mm 382mm
    Audi A6 (C7 Allroad):
    (1BY) heavy-duty running gear:
    393mm 390mm
    Audi Q7:*
    (1BK) standard running gear
    :
    442mm 454mm
    Audi Q7:*
    (2MA) Sports running gear:
    427mm 439mm
    Audi A4/S4|A5/S5:*
    (1BL) Suspension / Damping controlled:
    384mm 383mm
    Audi A4/S4|A5/S5:*
    (1BL) Suspension / Damping controlled:
    384mm 383mm
    Audi A4/S4|A5/S5:*
    (2MN) Suspension / Damping controlled:
    410mm 408mm
    Audi A8/S8 (4H2/4H8) 2011
    (1BK) Standard running gear:
    410mm 405mm
    Audi A8/S8 (4H2/4H8) 2011
    (2MA/2MB) Sports running gear:
    400mm 395mm
    Audi A8/S8 (4H2/4H8) 2011
    (1By) Heavy-duty running gear:
    418mm 413mm
    Bentley Mulsanne 2011]
    (1BK) Standard running gear:
    424mm 429mm
    Bentley Mulsanne 2011]
    (2MA/2MB) Sports running gear:
    414mm 419mm
    (* Certain vehicles with UDS Level controllers)
    (A4/A5 vehicles are unconfirmed at this time



    [Coding]
    - If there is an 'incorrectly coded' fault in the [34-Level Control], the controller will need to be coded first, before 'The Procedure' below can be completed!
    - If you have saved an [Auto-Scan] of the vehicle prior to the coding being lost, you can search the scan and copy/paste the coding into the controller.
    - In the unlikely event you have lost coding, create a new Ross-Tech forum thread in the Car Repair Support section and let's see if we can help.


    Special Notes, warnings, etc
    - Do not at any point in time select [Resetting of all adaptations] - If you choose to do so, you will need to make an appointment with your local dealer
    - Make sure you perform and save an [Auto-Scan] before beginning any work
    - If you are attempting to alter the ride height use this procedure at your own risk!
    - If you copy or post this procedure and/or any of its contents anywhere else, please be respectful and give credit where credit is due



    [The Procedure]

    ------------------------------------------------------
    - Re-adapt Adaptive Suspension to default position -
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    Prerequisites
    - Ignition [ON], Use a Battery maintainer
    - Vehicle on level surface
    - No persons or gear in Vehicle
    - Fuel Tank 50% or more
    - Nothing under vehicle
    - Door are to remain shut during the entire procedure

    Using the MMI (under [Car]/[Service] ) the following needs to be set-
    - Air Spring Wheel Change = [off] or Air Suspension Wheel Change
    - Automatic Drive Program = [auto] or Audi Drive Select (under Car menu)
    - Jacking mode, must be set to Off


    1) Select - [34-Level Control]
    Press [Login-11] or [Security Access-16] enter - [20103], [Do it!]


    2) Select - [Basic Settings - 04]
    - Choose - [Activate level control]
    - Wait for basic Settings to end, [FINISHED] (Should run for about 30 seconds), then press [Stop], [Go Back]


    3) In [34-Level Control]
    Press [Login-11] or [Security Access-16] enter - [20103], [Do it!]


    4) Select - [Basic Settings - 04]
    - Choose - [Delete calibration for level control] - Press [Go!]
    - Wait for basic Settings to end, [FINISHED] (Should run for about 30 seconds), then press [Stop], [Go Back]


    5) In [34-Level Control]
    Press [Login-11] or [Security Access-16] enter - [20103]


    6) Select - [Basic Settings - 04]
    - Choose - [Start up to reference level]- Press [Go!]
    - Wait for basic Settings to end, [FINISHED] (Should run for about 30 seconds), then press [Stop], [Go Back]


    7) In [34-Level Control]
    Press [Login-11] or [Security Access-16] enter - [20103], [Do it!]


    8) Measure the ride height, in millimeters, from the center of the wheel to the edge of fender, do this for all four wheels and record the values.




    Select [Adaptation - 10]
    Choose from the drop down menu and enter the [New value] recorded value for each of the wheels below, then press [Do it!]
    - [Body height left front wheel house edge]
    - [Body height right front wheel house edge]
    - [Body height left rear wheel house edge]
    - [Body height right rear wheel house edge]


    See the above table for standard values


    9) In [34-Level Control]
    Press [Login-11] or [Security Access-16] enter - [20103], [Do it!]


    10) Select - [Basic Settings - 04]
    - Choose - [Calibrate level control] - Press [Go!]
    - Wait for basic Settings to end, [FINISHED] (Should run for about 30 seconds), then press [Stop], [Go Back]


    11) In [34-Level Control]
    Press [Login-11] or [Security Access-16] enter - [20103], [Do it!]


    12) Select - [Basic Settings - 04]
    - Choose - [Activate level control] - Press [Go!]
    - Wait for basic Settings to end, [FINISHED] (Should run for about 30 seconds), then press [Stop], [Go Back]



    Quality check and house keeping:

    A.) Measure the ride height again and verify the values are within 3mm of the displayed values in Advanced Measuring Value Blocks.

    B.) Using the MMI verify the following setting -
    - Air Spring Wheel Change = [off]

    C.) Ignition Key On/Off Cycle must be completed.

    D.) Clear ALL fault codes and re-check for fault codes, road test vehicle.



    Reference:

    - You may have one or more of the fault codes listed below...
    Code:
    403201 - Function Shut-Off Active 
              C10C8 00 [009] -  - 
    
    403200 - Function Shut-Off Active 
              C10C8 00 [008] -  - 
    
    367877 - Ride Height Not Learned 
              C1044 00 [009] -  - 
    
    266752 - Control module not coded 
              U1013 00 [009] - -
    
    38144 - No End-of-Line Programming 
              B2013 00 [009] -  - 


    Again, feedback is welcome and you are encouraged to post your experiences here in the Ross-Tech forum.

    Thank you and as always, hope this helps,

    drpeter

    1st rev.20/12/2017
    22/12/2017-Updated chart, missing info
    Last edited by DrPeter; 01-11-2018 at 09:39 AM.

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    Small item, there is a redirect file, so label file should probably be 4G0-907-553
    Are you sure odis use that many logins?

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    Hi...
    Are you sure odis use that many logins?
    - The last time we received positive feedback, I had a caller on the phone and we did run through the rough draft of the procedure, it appeared that before each of the Basic Settings functions would complete successfully only if the Security Access was used.

    That is a good question though, is ODIS actually doing it the same way with the SA codes?? We have not tested that, ..yet.

    Thanks,

    drpeter

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    http://forums.ross-tech.com/showthre...help-pleeeease-)

    Yeah well this locked thread linked above is a great example of what not to do or how to act.

    The process above from Dr. Peter for me works very well in this thread.

    FYI: When I have tested it and I can confirm that sometimes sessions get dropped, further requiring a login again due to bad connectivity, otherwise it streamed right through.

    ADVANCED USERS!

    MANUAL RESETS........

    When after readings were in fact erased.
    I was able each time to input them by setting the sensors to full high in service position. I do this by disconnecting on lift and reinitiating the test path to do a final save.

    I find in some cases it is needed to have a second tech in the car to switch the ignition terminal 15 fast & between saving settings to eeprom in some controllers in steps or using a hand trigger wired if by yourself because there is limited time to lower car and get to the tester or switch!

    While some controllers will allow for function tests, adjustment or a first adaption to commence, you will find that after you have the EOLE or coding DTC's; that if you don't bypass an alarm zone or verify all the zones & battery voltage is at least 13.25 Volts at all times under load or you may get blocked in a routine.

    The main reason I disconnect ride sensors and lift the car, is to save the pump and not stress out the controller to get it done quick.

    If people marked the sensor positions front and back with timing marks, simply readjusting the position you can change height this way too much faster.
    In some cases I take the sensor rods off and make them adjustable with a double jam nuts for on the car mechanical connected calibrations for off road track use only!

    In this case a good FOD or test path for tweaked cars to obtain the specification.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NEtech View Post
    Are you sure odis use that many logins?
    Don't know about ODIS, but with VCDS, you only need to key security code once (on step #1 of post #1). Everything else is spot on. And I'd put to set suspension on AUTO in bold, especially when your intention is to lower the car, and you left it in 'dynamic'. That's what I did, and had to get the module reflashed by dealer. Mastec tech said programming was corrupted when suspension bottomed out during calibration, aborting the procedure. Nothing can fix that other than reflashing the module. By the way, I'm the one that Jack linked above, and I see he said I'm the example how not to act? He was the one who behaved like a jacka$$ first (judge by yourselves), and I just followed suit. I apologized to Uwe, and asked him to remove the thread, since nobody knew how to fix my issue... plus it couldn't be fixed by VCDS anyway.

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    Anyone tried this on a 7P Touareg? I had this plugged in to attempt and none of the basic settings existed on the module, it does hhve the UDS on the module in vcds. here is the code for that module

    Code:
    Address 34: Level Control (J197)       Labels:. 7P0-907-553.clb
       Part No SW: 7P0 907 553 N    HW: 7P0 907 553 N
       Component: PASM          H01 1550  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000121680815
       Coding: 14210000
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       ASAM Dataset: EV_PASMConti 001004
       ROD: EV_PASMConti.rod
       VCID: 428B3FFFD531EE544E-8016

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    Hi, i replaced the front Shock Absorbers and the lower arms on Audi A8 2013, after finishing the job i did the re-adaptation and everything went well but i have the right side higher than the left side, any suggestions please.

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