HEX-NET unable to talk to engine ECU (HEX-CAN works fine)

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Hi,

Not sure if this is a bug or car issue?

Seat Ibiza 2008 BWX engine

HEX-NET wont scan Engine ECU
Code:
Thursday,09,November,2017,08:35:48:06091
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 17.8.0.1 (x64)  HEX-NET CB: 0.4407.4
Data version: 20170721 DS276.2
www.Ross-Tech.com

Dealer/Shop Name: DG Motor Services

VIN: VSSZZZ6JZ9R044368   License Plate: 


Chassis Type: 6J-SE25 (6N0)
Scan: 01 03 04 08 09 15 17 19 25 44 4B 56

VIN: VSSZZZ6JZ9R044368   Mileage: 97700km-60707miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
4B-Multifunc. Module -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine
Cannot be reached

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 6R0-907-37x-ABS82.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 379     HW: 6R0 907 379 
   Component: ABS8.2 front  H03 0004  
   Revision: --------    
   Coding: 100224DB017100B6082824E880D900000000
   Shop #: WSC 04941 000 00000
   VCID: FBB6A1ED7EF22B9E5F-80AE

2 Faults Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module 
            013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101101
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 139
                    Mileage: 97697 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2012.03.31
                    Time: 13:00:35

             Freeze Frame:
                    Hex Value: 0x0005
                    Hex Value: 0x0000
                    Hex Value: 0x3012
                    Hex Value: 0x138D
                    Hex Value: 0x00FF
                    Hex Value: 0x007F
                    Hex Value: 0x7E00
                    Hex Value: 0x0000

18265 - Load Signal 
            P1857 - 008 - Error Message from ECU - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 139
                    Mileage: 97697 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2012.03.31
                    Time: 13:00:35

             Freeze Frame:
                    Hex Value: 0x0005
                    Hex Value: 0x0000
                    Hex Value: 0x301A
                    Hex Value: 0x138D
                    Hex Value: 0x00FF
                    Hex Value: 0x007F
                    Hex Value: 0x7E00
                    Hex Value: 0x0000


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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 6R0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 6J0 820 043     HW: 6J0 820 043 
   Component: Climatronic   H07 0203  
   Revision: S0000000    
   VCID: E18AF385F85EE14E65-80B4

2 Faults Found:
00447 - Function Limitation due to Over-Voltage 
            001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100001
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 11
                    Reset counter: 139
                    Mileage: 73169 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2010.10.02
                    Time: 00:02:22

00446 - Function Limitation due to Under-Voltage 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 139
                    Mileage: 97558 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2012.03.29
                    Time: 07:17:48


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 937 087     HW: 6R0 937 087 
   Component: PQ25 BCM      H06 0011  
   Revision: BF006001    Serial number: 9425A185080124
   Coding: 7C8829A88861010000200000660B1CC800C0400F608C00002000
   Shop #: WSC 64564 324 38760
   VCID: FAB8A4E975C8129644-80AE

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 A    HW: 6R0 959 802 A  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  001 0232 
   Serial number: --------------------
   Coding: 030000

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 C    HW: 6R0 959 801 C  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  001 0236 
   Serial number: --------------------
   Coding: 020000

1 Fault Found:
01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded 
            000 -  -  - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 15
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 61585 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2009.02.24
                    Time: 11:52:26


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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 655     HW: 6R0 959 655 
   Component: VW10AirbagA0D H07 0013  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003000000000
   Coding: 003044
   Shop #: WSC 06401 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250_VW31.rod
   VCID: FF4E55FD66EA37BE73-80AA

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3492ERB40335G3476SJ$

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3502ERB40315G346VJ2R

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 6J0 920 900 K    HW: 6J0 920 900 K
   Component: KOMBI         017 0018  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 410A00
   Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04020
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_SK46.rod
   VCID: AF2E45BDF60A073EA3-80FA

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
   Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 6R0 937 087 
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 0011  
   Coding: 422100
   Shop #: WSC 64564 324 38760
   VCID: F0AC86C123B458C6FA-80A4

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:. 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 6J0 920 900 K    HW: 6J0 920 900 K
   Component: IMMO          017 0018  
   Serial number:               
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03002
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
   VCID: AF2E45BDF60A073EA3-80FA

2 Faults Found:
9456128 - Engine Control Module (ECM) not authorized 
          B104A 00 [008] -  - 
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 13

9456681 - Key 
          B104C 29 [008] - Implausible Signal
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Mileage: 72945 km
                    Date: 2016.03.14
                    Time: 00:00:01


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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 6Q0-423-156.clb
   Part No: 6R0 423 156 
   Component: LenkhilfeTRW        V272  
   Coding: 10121
   Shop #: WSC 06402  
   VCID: ED929FB5A086B52ED1-80B8

No fault code found.

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Address 4B: Multifunc. Module        Labels: 6J0-959-441.clb
   Part No: 6J0 959 441 
   Component: MF-Modul       0007 0001  
   Coding: 0000001
   Shop #: WSC 77005 000 00000
   VCID: F0AC86C1E3B458C6FA-80A4

1 Fault Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent

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Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels:. 6J0-035-153.clb
   Part No SW: 6J0 035 153 B    HW: 6J0 035 153 B
   Component: Radio G3 UL   H55 0033  
   Revision: 0H001001    Serial number: SEZ1Z2H5681130
   Coding: 0501040002
   Shop #: WSC 04941 000 00000
   VCID: A306B98DA2C2B35E37-80F6

No fault code found.

End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:12, VBatt start/end: 14.2V/14.3V)-----------
Check engine direct - using 01-engine (No luck)
Check CAN gateway MVB 125 - Engine shows as being online

Tried with the wired HEX-CAN lead and this scan the engine no problem
Code:
Thursday,09,November,2017,09:43:38:63837
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86
VCDS Version: 17.8.0.1
Data version: 20170721 DS276.2
www.Ross-Tech.com

Dealer/Shop Name: DG Motor Services

VIN: VSSZZZ6JZ9R044368   License Plate: 


Chassis Type: 6J-SE25 (6N0)
Scan: 01 03 04 08 09 15 17 19 25 44 4B 56

VIN: VSSZZZ6JZ9R044368   Mileage: 97700km-60707miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
4B-Multifunc. Module -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine        Labels: 03C-906-024-BXW.lbl
   Part No SW: 03C 906 024 BK    HW: 03C 906 024 BH
   Component:             MM4HV G 3052  
   Revision: --H05---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0000071
   Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
   VCID: E8D5FDFBD88A0606A2-5140

5 Faults Found:
17769 - Cylinder 3 Ignition Circuit 
            P1361 - 000 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 99
                    Mileage: 97700 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2012.04.01
                    Time: 09:13:04

             Freeze Frame:
                    Bin. Bits: 00000000
                    Load: 98.9 %
                    Lambda: 0.0 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 51.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1005.8 mbar
                    RPM: 325 /min

17772 - Cylinder 4 Ignition Circuit 
            P1364 - 000 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 99
                    Mileage: 97700 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2012.04.01
                    Time: 09:13:04

             Freeze Frame:
                    Bin. Bits: 00000000
                    Load: 98.9 %
                    Lambda: 0.0 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 51.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 958.8 mbar
                    RPM: 340 /min

17766 - Cylinder 2 Ignition Circuit 
            P1358 - 000 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 99
                    Mileage: 97700 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2012.04.01
                    Time: 09:13:04

             Freeze Frame:
                    Bin. Bits: 00000000
                    Load: 90.8 %
                    Lambda: 0.0 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 51.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 999.6 mbar
                    RPM: 318 /min

17763 - Cylinder 1 Ignition Circuit 
            P1355 - 000 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 99
                    Mileage: 97700 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2012.04.01
                    Time: 09:13:04

             Freeze Frame:
                    Bin. Bits: 00000000
                    Load: 97.9 %
                    Lambda: 0.0 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 51.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1001.9 mbar
                    RPM: 339 /min

17071 - ECM Power Relay Control Circuit 
            P0687 - 000 - Short to Plus - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 97700 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2012.04.01
                    Time: 09:13:52

             Freeze Frame:
                    Bin. Bits: 00000000
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Lambda: 0.0 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 51.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1009.8 mbar
                    RPM: 0 /min

Readiness: 0110 0101

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 6R0-907-37x-ABS82.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 379     HW: 6R0 907 379 
   Component: ABS8.2 front  H03 0004  
   Revision: --------    
   Coding: 100224DB017100B6082824E880D900000000
   Shop #: WSC 04941 000 00000
   VCID: FBFFB2B77E1CBD9E5F-80AE

2 Faults Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module 
            013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101101
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 139
                    Mileage: 97700 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2012.04.01
                    Time: 09:13:05

             Freeze Frame:
                    Hex Value: 0x0000
                    Hex Value: 0x0000
                    Hex Value: 0x3012
                    Hex Value: 0x1384
                    Hex Value: 0x00FF
                    Hex Value: 0x007F
                    Hex Value: 0x7E00
                    Hex Value: 0x0000

18265 - Load Signal 
            P1857 - 008 - Error Message from ECU - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 139
                    Mileage: 97700 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2012.04.01
                    Time: 09:13:05

             Freeze Frame:
                    Hex Value: 0x0000
                    Hex Value: 0x0000
                    Hex Value: 0x301A
                    Hex Value: 0x1384
                    Hex Value: 0x00FF
                    Hex Value: 0x007F
                    Hex Value: 0x7E00
                    Hex Value: 0x0000


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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 6R0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 6J0 820 043     HW: 6J0 820 043 
   Component: Climatronic   H07 0203  
   Revision: S0000000    
   VCID: E1C3E0DFF8B0774E65-80B4

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 937 087     HW: 6R0 937 087 
   Component: PQ25 BCM      H06 0011  
   Revision: BF006001    Serial number: 9425A185080124
   Coding: 7C8829A88861010000200000660B1CC800C0400F608C00002000
   Shop #: WSC 64564 324 38760
   VCID: FAF1B7B37526849644-80AE

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 A    HW: 6R0 959 802 A  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  001 0232 
   Serial number: --------------------
   Coding: 030000

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 C    HW: 6R0 959 801 C  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  001 0236 
   Serial number: --------------------
   Coding: 020000

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 655     HW: 6R0 959 655 
   Component: VW10AirbagA0D H07 0013  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003000000000
   Coding: 003044
   Shop #: WSC 06401 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250_VW31.rod
   VCID: FF0746A76604A1BE73-80AA

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3492ERB40335G3476SJ$

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3502ERB40315G346VJ2R

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 6J0 920 900 K    HW: 6J0 920 900 K
   Component: KOMBI         017 0018  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 410A00
   Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04020
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_SK46.rod
   VCID: AF6756E7F6E4913EA3-80FA

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
   Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 6R0 937 087 
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 0011  
   Coding: 422100
   Shop #: WSC 64564 324 38760
   VCID: F0E5959B235ACEC6FA-80A4

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:. 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 6J0 920 900 K    HW: 6J0 920 900 K
   Component: IMMO          017 0018  
   Serial number:               
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03002
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
   VCID: AF6756E7F6E4913EA3-80FA

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 6Q0-423-156.clb
   Part No: 6R0 423 156 
   Component: LenkhilfeTRW        V272  
   Coding: 10121
   Shop #: WSC 06402  
   VCID: EDDB8CEFA068232ED1-80B8

No fault code found.

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Address 4B: Multifunc. Module        Labels: 6J0-959-441.clb
   Part No: 6J0 959 441 
   Component: MF-Modul       0007 0001  
   Coding: 0000001
   Shop #: WSC 77005 000 00000
   VCID: F0E5959BE35ACEC6FA-80A4

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels:. 6J0-035-153.clb
   Part No SW: 6J0 035 153 B    HW: 6J0 035 153 B
   Component: Radio G3 UL   H55 0033  
   Revision: 0H001001    Serial number: SEZ1Z2H5681130
   Coding: 0501040002
   Shop #: WSC 04941 000 00000
   VCID: A34FAAD7A22C255E37-80F6

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:01)--------------------------

Anything else you want me to try before the car leaves the workshop???
 
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Anything else you want me to try before the car leaves the workshop???
Probable bug somewhere, it should work with either interface obviously. For debug data collection you'll need advice from Ross-Tech. Debugs from the HEX-NET itself may be required, and I think the process for gathering those has changed somewhat since I last needed to do so.

In the interim, I can see this car has a GVL and lots of CAN modules, but this ECU is speaking on K-line, at least to your HEX-USB+CAN. If you have a moment, try going to Options and tick the "Force K on engine" box. It will skip trying to talk to the ECU via CAN. That isn't a fix, that's a possible workaround for which it'd be interesting to know the outcome.
 
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In the interim, I can see this car has a GVL and lots of CAN modules, but this ECU is speaking on K-line, at least to your HEX-USB+CAN. If you have a moment, try going to Options and tick the "Force K on engine" box. It will skip trying to talk to the ECU via CAN. That isn't a fix, that's a possible workaround for which it'd be interesting to know the outcome.

Just tried - "Force K on engine"
Still wont talk to the engine.
 
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I would say that's probably a bug.

Looks like everything else in the car talks via CAN, except the ECU...

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Hmm no issue here with a similar bench setup (6R0 937 087 gateway like yours, and a KWP2000 over K-line engine):
Code:
Thursday,09,November,2017,11:19:22:20613
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 17.10.0.2 (x64)  HEX-NET CB: 0.4407.4
Data version: 20171026 DS283.3
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WAULC68E82A306669   License Plate: 


Chassis Type: 8E-N/A (6N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 09 17 19 25

VIN: WAULC68E82A306669   Mileage: 10000km-6213miles

01-Engine -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
02-Auto Trans -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: Malfunction 0010
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 06B-909-518-AMB.lbl
   Part No SW: 8E0 909 518 F    HW: 8E0 909 018 
   Component: 1.8L R4/5VT      01 0003  
   Coding: 0016701
   Shop #: WSC 54332 321 22222
   VCID: 33299C0C5365EDB271B-5184

11 Faults Found:
18010 - Power Supply Terminal 30 
            P1602 - 002 - Voltage too Low - Intermittent
16622 - Manifold Pressure / Boost Sensor (G31) 
            P0238 - 001 - Signal too High
17069 - ECM Power Relay Control Circuit 
            P0685 - 004 - Open Circuit
18057 - Powertrain Data Bus 
            P1649 - 008 - Missing Message from ABS Controller
18043 - Powertrain Data Bus 
            P1635 - 008 - Missing Message from A/C Controller
18058 - Powertrain Data Bus 
            P1650 - 004 - Missing Message from Instrument Cluster
17698 - Coolant Temp Sensor at Radiator Outlet (G83) 
            P1290 - 002 - Signal too Small
16497 - Intake Air Temp. Sensor (G42) 
            P0113 - 002 - Signal too High
16502 - Engine Coolant Temp. Sensor (G62) 
            P0118 - 002 - Signal too High
17931 - Crash Signal from Airbag Controller 
            P1523 - 004 - Implausible Signal
16490 - Manifold / Barometric Pressure Sensor (G71) / (F96) 
            P0106 - 008 - Implausible Signal
Readiness: 0110 1101

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Address 02: Auto Trans
Cannot be reached

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 6R0-907-37x-ESP82.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 H    HW: 6R0 907 379 H
   Component: ESP8.2i front H04 0005  
   Revision: --------    
   Coding: 000000000000000000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 43C9CCCCC6C55D32E1B-8016

12 Faults Found:
01042 - Control Module; Not Coded 
            000 -  - 
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 30
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 10001 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2016.05.25
                    Time: 18:31:54

             Freeze Frame:
                    Hex Value: 0x8007
                    Hex Value: 0x0000
                    Hex Value: 0x0013
                    Hex Value: 0x14B5
                    Hex Value: 0x007F
                    Hex Value: 0x7F75
                    Hex Value: 0x51FF
                    Hex Value: 0x0000

00283 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Front Left  (G47) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11101100
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 30
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 10001 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2016.05.25
                    Time: 18:31:54

             Freeze Frame:
                    Hex Value: 0x8007
                    Hex Value: 0x0000
                    Hex Value: 0x00B1
                    Hex Value: 0x06B5
                    Hex Value: 0x007F
                    Hex Value: 0x7F75
                    Hex Value: 0x51FF
                    Hex Value: 0x0000

00526 - Brake Light Switch (F) 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 30
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 10001 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2016.05.25
                    Time: 18:31:54

             Freeze Frame:
                    Hex Value: 0x8007
                    Hex Value: 0x0000
                    Hex Value: 0x00B0
                    Hex Value: 0x04B5
                    Hex Value: 0x007F
                    Hex Value: 0x7F75
                    Hex Value: 0x51FF
                    Hex Value: 0x0000

00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 7
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    Hex Value: 0x8007
                    Hex Value: 0x0000
                    Hex Value: 0x0044
                    Hex Value: 0x1BB6
                    Hex Value: 0x007F
                    Hex Value: 0x7F60
                    Hex Value: 0xA3FF
                    Hex Value: 0x0000

00287 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Rear Right (G44) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11101100
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 30
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 10001 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2016.05.25
                    Time: 18:31:54

             Freeze Frame:
                    Hex Value: 0x8007
                    Hex Value: 0x0000
                    Hex Value: 0x00B1
                    Hex Value: 0x09B5
                    Hex Value: 0x007F
                    Hex Value: 0x7F75
                    Hex Value: 0x51FF
                    Hex Value: 0x0000

01314 - Engine Control Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 10
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    Hex Value: 0x8007
                    Hex Value: 0x0000
                    Hex Value: 0x0011
                    Hex Value: 0x2499
                    Hex Value: 0x007F
                    Hex Value: 0x7F5E
                    Hex Value: 0xA1FF
                    Hex Value: 0x0000

01435 - Brake Pressure Sensor 1 (G201) 
            008 - Implausible Signal
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 30
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 10001 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2016.05.25
                    Time: 18:31:54

             Freeze Frame:
                    Hex Value: 0x8007
                    Hex Value: 0x0000
                    Hex Value: 0x0031
                    Hex Value: 0x2AB5
                    Hex Value: 0x007F
                    Hex Value: 0x7F75
                    Hex Value: 0x51FF
                    Hex Value: 0x0000

18265 - Load Signal 
            P1857 - 000 - Error Message from ECU - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 40
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    Hex Value: 0x8007
                    Hex Value: 0x0000
                    Hex Value: 0x230C
                    Hex Value: 0x1396
                    Hex Value: 0x007F
                    Hex Value: 0x7F5E
                    Hex Value: 0xA0FF
                    Hex Value: 0x0000

00285 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Front Right (G45) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11101100
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 30
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 10001 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2016.05.25
                    Time: 18:31:54

             Freeze Frame:
                    Hex Value: 0x8007
                    Hex Value: 0x0000
                    Hex Value: 0x00B1
                    Hex Value: 0x07B5
                    Hex Value: 0x007F
                    Hex Value: 0x7F75
                    Hex Value: 0x51FF
                    Hex Value: 0x0000

00474 - Control Module for Immobilizer 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 30
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 10001 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2016.05.25
                    Time: 18:31:54

             Freeze Frame:
                    Hex Value: 0x8007
                    Hex Value: 0x0000
                    Hex Value: 0x00FD
                    Hex Value: 0x24B5
                    Hex Value: 0x007F
                    Hex Value: 0x7F75
                    Hex Value: 0x51FF
                    Hex Value: 0x0000

00290 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Rear Left (G46) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11101100
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 30
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 10001 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2016.05.25
                    Time: 18:31:54

             Freeze Frame:
                    Hex Value: 0x8007
                    Hex Value: 0x0000
                    Hex Value: 0x00B1
                    Hex Value: 0x08B5
                    Hex Value: 0x007F
                    Hex Value: 0x7F75
                    Hex Value: 0x51FF
                    Hex Value: 0x0000

01201 - ABS Pump Supply Voltage 
            000 -  - 
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11100000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 10001 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2016.05.25
                    Time: 18:31:54

             Freeze Frame:
                    Hex Value: 0x8007
                    Hex Value: 0x0000
                    Hex Value: 0x00A0
                    Hex Value: 0x05B5
                    Hex Value: 0x007F
                    Hex Value: 0x7F75
                    Hex Value: 0x51FF
                    Hex Value: 0x0000


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 937 087     HW: 6R0 937 087 
   Component: PQ25 BCM      H06 0012  
   Revision: BF006001    Serial number: 9425A211081405
   Coding: 64902BB90C61080000000000360B0C800000400F600400002000
   Shop #: WSC 06438 444 99999
   VCID: 7AB77128F58FDCFAF2D-802E

18 Faults Found:
03430 - Terminal 30 for Turn Signals and Brake Lights 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Time Indication: 0

03431 - Activation of Left Parking Light 
            011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101011
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 22
                    Reset counter: 40
                    Time Indication: 0

03432 - Activation of Right Parking Light 
            011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 40
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Time Indication: 0

00901 - Back-Up Lamps 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Time Indication: 0

00329 - Control Circuit for Unlocking Rear Lid 
            007 - Short to Ground
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100111
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Time Indication: 0

03301 - Response Closing Status of Drivers Door 
            008 - Implausible Signal
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Time Indication: 0

03302 - Response Closing Status of Passenger's Door 
            008 - Implausible Signal
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Time Indication: 0

03303 - Response Closing Status of Rear Left Door 
            008 - Implausible Signal
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Time Indication: 0

03304 - Response Closing Status of Rear Right Door 
            008 - Implausible Signal
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Time Indication: 0

03396 - Supply voltage terminal 30 for central locking 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Time Indication: 0

00975 - Heated Rear Window (Z1) 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Time Indication: 0

03579 - Terminal 30 for Rear Window Heating 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Time Indication: 0

00077 - Windshield Wiper Stop Switch (F229) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Time Indication: 0

03585 - Terminal 30 for Windshield Wiper 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Time Indication: 0

03444 - Ignition Starter Switch 
            008 - Implausible Signal
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101000
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Time Indication: 0

03591 - Control Circuit for Horn 
            006 - Short to Plus - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100110
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 19
                    Reset counter: 40
                    Mileage: 10001 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2017.11.09
                    Time: 00:00:57

03591 - Control Circuit for Horn 
            011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101011
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 17
                    Reset counter: 40
                    Time Indication: 0

03592 - Terminal 30 for Horn 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Time Indication: 0


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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 6J0 920 800 LX    HW: 6J0 920 800 LX
   Component: KOMBI         017 0018  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 220000
   Shop #: WSC 54321 321 180494
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04020
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_SK46.rod
   VCID: 075118DCBE7DB112FD3-8052

9 Faults Found:
9453074 - Fuel Level Sensor 1 
          B103E 1B [009] - Resistance Too High
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 10001 km
                    Date: 2017.10.12
                    Time: 23:47:17

9453330 - Outside temperature sensor 
          B103F 1B [009] - Resistance Too High
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 10001 km
                    Date: 2017.10.12
                    Time: 23:47:17

9453841 - Oil Level Thermal Sensor 
          B1041 33 [009] - Signal low time > maximum
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 10001 km
                    Date: 2017.10.12
                    Time: 23:47:17

12604672 - Combination / Chassis CAN Bus (SAE Bus D) 
          U0055 00 [008] - Malfunction
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 40

13637376 - Please Check Fault Codes in Control Module for ABS Brakes 
          U1017 00 [009] - -
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 10001 km
                    Date: 2017.11.09
                    Time: 00:00:14

12648448 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s) 
          U1111 00 [009] - -
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 10001 km
                    Date: 2017.11.09
                    Time: 00:01:01

12648704 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s) 
          U1111 00 [009] - -
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 10001 km
                    Date: 2017.11.05
                    Time: 00:07:34

12656896 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s) 
          U1111 00 [008] - -
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 40

12664832 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s) 
          U1111 00 [008] - -
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 40


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
   Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 6R0 937 087 
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 0012  
   Coding: 022000
   Shop #: WSC 06438 444 99999
   VCID: 70A35300A3F396AA4C9-8024

3 Faults Found:
01312 - Powertrain Data Bus 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 40
                    Time Indication: 0

01314 - Engine Control Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 10001 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2017.11.09
                    Time: 00:01:01

01315 - Transmission Control Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 10001 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2017.11.09
                    Time: 00:01:01


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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:. 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 6J0 920 800 LX    HW: 6J0 920 800 LX
   Component: IMMO          017 0018  
   Serial number:               
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03002
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
   VCID: 075118DCBE7DB112FD3-8052

2 Faults Found:
9456433 - Key 
          B104B 31 [009] - No Signal
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 10001 km
                    Date: 2017.10.12
                    Time: 04:35:55

12604672 - Combination / Chassis CAN Bus (SAE Bus D) 
          U0055 00 [008] - Malfunction
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 40


End----(Elapsed Time: 00:42, VBatt start/end: 13.8V/13.7V. VIgn 0.0V)------
I don't think the issue is with VCDS' logic, but likely something in the codeblock being confused by CAN messages. Stand by for debug instructions.
 
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HEX-USB+CAN or similar Legacy Interface (good baseline info):

[Options]
Change the Debug level from 0 to 1024
[Apply]
[Select]
[01-Engine]
We know it will communicate with the HUC so you don't need to test functions.
Exit the controller and [Exit] VCDS.

Please slide the files with .dlm extensions in the Debug folder into a new folder named HUC1024. By default that would be: C:\Ross-Tech\VCDS\Debug

Make sure the Debug folder is empty after completing the HEX-USB+CAN testing.


HEX-NET -or- HEX-V2:
Debugging needs to be performed with the USB wire (not wireless).

1) Repeat the Debug level 1024 instructions above. Please move the .dlm files into a folder called: HN1024

Again, make sure the Debug folder is empty after completing that sequence.

2) Change the Debug level from 0 to 1028

Repeat the original steps. Both .dlm and .edl files will be generated moving forward. Please move those into a folder named HN1028 so the Debug folder is empty.

3) The last debug level in VCDS is 1044. We would want to repeat the VCDS steps saving .dlm and .edl files to a new folder called HN1044.

Zipping all of those up and sending them to support via e-mail would give us the most comprehensive set of files to use to find the bug without a car present.
 
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Tried to get them in time but the customer has just picked it up :-(

Ill see if I can repeat the problem with any other cars.
 
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The customer had a bulb fail over night so I got the car back in :-)

I did the debug as requested and have sent them to support - the only thing is it never made a .edl file only 2x.dlm files for each debug level.
 
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The .edl files reside on the HEX-NET Toby. Either connect to your HN via VCDS-Mobile and download from there; or the next time the HN has Infrastructure access it will (should) upload to your VCDS-Cloud account. If you do it that way, take a note of the 'docid' for the guys and gals at RT.
 
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The .edl files reside on the HEX-NET Toby. Either connect to your HN via VCDS-Mobile and download from there; or the next time the HN has Infrastructure access it will (should) upload to your VCDS-Cloud account. If you do it that way, take a note of the 'docid' for the guys and gals at RT.
The HN runs permanently in Infrastructure so fingers crossed they should be on the cloud (But I didn't take a note off the docid)
 
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Hmm, with newer versions of VCDS Debug level 1028 and 1044 with the HEX-NET should have created edl files on the PC. Christopher (Zenerdiode) is correct though, you should have edls stored in the HN as well. If you have a moment to pop open a web browser and get into VCDS-Mobile please try uploading those to the cloud.
 
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The .edl files reside on the HEX-NET Toby. Either connect to your HN via VCDS-Mobile and download from there; or the next time the HN has Infrastructure access it will (should) upload to your VCDS-Cloud account. If you do it that way, take a note of the 'docid' for the guys and gals at RT.

Using mobile I cant find the files to download??
Im guessing there should be more files in here?
HN-issue-e1510326229191.jpg


I have also tried changing the debug setting in VCDS mobile but that does help?
Also made windows show hidden files and folders (Just in case it was being hidden) still no .EDL file
 
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We figured it out and I'll edit the instructions I provided earlier to specify: Those Debugs need to be performed with the HEX-NET over USB.

I'm sorry about that - we are still fine tuning our newest debug levels. If you have time to repeat over USB that would be great. If not, just keep us posted the next time one of those vehicles are available.

Best,
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We figured it out and I'll edit the instructions I provided earlier to specify: Those Debugs need to be performed with the HEX-NET over USB.

I'm sorry about that - we are still fine tuning our newest debug levels. If you have time to repeat over USB that would be great. If not, just keep us posted the next time one of those vehicles are available.

Best,
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Cheers Dana

Least we know what's wrong and how to fix the dedug issue
The car has gone again now but if I come across the problem again ill make the debug files for you (Or fingers crossed the .dlm files will give you insight into what is happening)
 
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