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    2012 R8 Trans (R-Tronic) Adaptations

    I'm trying to run the kiss point and fork position programs but VCDS says "not available". I have the car running, in N, parking brake on, brake depressed. The car does have a trans tune already.

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    Please post an Autoscan to give us context.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCzarofMexico View Post
    The car does have a trans tune already.
    Do you mean that the transmission ECU has been "chip tuned"? If so are you sure that the tuner hasn't disabled the kiss point and fork position calibrations?

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    Car is a 2012 R8 twin turbo R-Tronic

    Yes the TCM has been tuned. No I'm not sure although I don't know why he would disable that or how to check or re-enable it as I'm very new to VCDS.

    Below is the autoscan. Some interesting stuff (I have been having intermittent connection problems with the drivers side (B) ECU) but the auto trans section is A-Okay.

    Code:
    Tuesday,17,October,2017,19:21:20:61299
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 17.8.0.1 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4401.4
    Data version: 20170721 DS276.2
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: WUAENAFG6CN001875   License Plate: 
    
    
    Chassis Type: FG-AU35 (7N0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0F 10 11 31 14 15 16 17 19 25 37 42 46 47 52
              56 61 65 6C 77 A6
    
    VIN: WUAENAFG6CN001875   Mileage: 25590km-15900miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    0F-Digital Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    11-Engine II -- Status: Sporadic communication error 1000
    31-Engine other -- Status: Sporadic communication error 1000
    14-Susp. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
    65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
    6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
    77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
    A6-Microphone -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (BUJ)       Labels: None
       Part No SW: 424 910 552 M    HW: 420 907 552 B
       Component: 5.2L V10HDZ/4V F   0010  
       Revision: F5H09---    Serial number: AUX7Z0KNFN90J4
       Coding: 011000091B0F0120
       Shop #: WSC 61656 001 1048576
       VCID: 1D64D1E2C1BF39DF50C-8048
    
    1 Fault Found:
    005464 - Throttle Actuator (G186) 
                   P1558 - 002 - Electrical Malfunction - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100010
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 25589 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2017.10.17
                        Time: 19:07:34
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 730 /min
                        Load: 24.3 %
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Temperature: 76.0C
                        Temperature: 39.0C
                        Absolute Pres.: 1020.0 mbar
                        Voltage: 14.097 V
    
    Readiness: 0110 1100
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 420-910-156-V2.clb
       Part No SW: 420 910 156 M    HW: 420 927 156 
       Component: SL600 5.2L FSI HDZ  0040  
       Revision: SBH04001    Serial number: 9P2N113BL     
       Coding: 0000001
       Shop #: WSC 02197 785 00200
       VCID: 196CC5F2D59745FFBC4-804C
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 420 713 041 C
       Component: A11 C02  23.08.11   0A11
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: None
       Part No SW: 420 907 379     HW: 420 614 517 D
       Component: ESP8 quattro    H01 0200  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 0000271
       Shop #: WSC 02197 785 00200
       VCID: 59EC85F2951785FF7C4-800C
    
    2 Faults Found:
    01314 - Engine Control Module 
                013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00101101
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 38
                        Reset counter: 169
                        Mileage: 25518 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2017.10.11
                        Time: 12:34:16
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Hex Value: 0x00C0
                        Hex Value: 0x6222
                        Hex Value: 0x0024
                        Hex Value: 0x0191
                        Hex Value: 0x0000
    
    18265 - Load Signal 
                P1857 - 000 - Error Message from ECU - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100000
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 27
                        Reset counter: 169
                        Mileage: 25518 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2017.10.11
                        Time: 14:00:10
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Hex Value: 0x00C0
                        Hex Value: 0x6222
                        Hex Value: 0x0027
                        Hex Value: 0x0193
                        Hex Value: 0x0000
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: None
       Part No SW: 420 820 043 G    HW: 420 820 043 G
       Component: J255  Klima 1 Zone  0100  
       Revision: 00H06007    Serial number: 00000001201216
       Coding: 1572906
       Shop #: WSC 02197 785 00200
       VCID: 0E46A6AE1C599247D96-805A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 8P0-907-063.clb
       Part No SW: 8P0 907 063 S    HW: 8P0 907 063 S
       Component: BCM PQ35  H   110 0667  
       Revision: AG110667    
       Coding: 6E000A00A893362420744CE00920004150F26A001120C92ADC080E1C0045
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 44D244860E9528173F2-8010
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 423 955 113     HW: 423 955 113   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: Wischer AudiR  H23 0040 
       Coding: 005912
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 910 557     HW: 8K0 955 559 A  Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
       Component: REGENLICHTSEN  H04 0003 
       Coding: 025B32
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
       Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501 
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 0F: Digital Radio        Labels: 8E0-035-593-SIR.lbl
       Part No SW: 8E0 035 593 P    HW: 8E0 035 593 P
       Component: SDAR SIRIUS     H07 0160  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: AUZ4Z7L0607409
       Coding: 0000100
       Shop #: WSC 02197 785 00200
       VCID: 36362E4E44498A87B16-8062
    
    1 Fault Found:
    02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated 
                000 -  - 
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100000
                        Fault Priority: 7
                        Fault Frequency: 4
                        Reset counter: 244
                        Mileage: 22977 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2017.02.05
                        Time: 13:18:25
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:. 8P0-919-475-7X2.clb
       Part No SW: 8P0 919 475 N    HW: 8P0 919 475 N
       Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H01 0140  
       Revision: 11001001    Serial number: 12501128400493
       Coding: 30010C
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 49CC55B229B7F57FCC4-801C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 11: Engine II        Labels: None
       Part No SW: 424 910 552 M    HW: 420 907 552 B
       Component: 5.2L V10HDZ/4V F   0010  
       Revision: F5H09---    Serial number: AUX7Z0KNFN90J4
       Coding: 011000091B0F0120
       Shop #: WSC 61656 001 1048576
       VCID: 1D64D1E2C1BF39DF50C-8048
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 14: Susp. Elect.        Labels: 8P0-907-376.lbl
       Part No SW: 420 910 376 A    HW: 420 907 376 A
       Component: J250 Raddaempfung   0170  
       Revision: --H16---    Serial number: 190DPH 1269164
       Coding: 0000052
       Shop #: WSC 02197 785 00200
       VCID: 117CBDD20D678DBFC44-8044
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01316 - ABS Control Module 
                013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00101101
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 4
                        Reset counter: 130
                        Mileage: 25578 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2017.10.17
                        Time: 16:19:01
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Voltage: 12.60 V
                        Speed: 2.6 km/h
                        Voltage: 4.99 V
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 420-959-655.lbl
       Part No SW: 420 959 655     HW: 420 959 655 
       Component: SN Airbag 9.43  H02 0020  
       Revision: 93H02002    Serial number: 003B8000FHNY  
       Coding: 0021326
       Shop #: WSC 02197 785 00200
       VCID: 5DE491E2813F79DF10C-8008
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8J0 910 339 A
       Component: BF-Gewichtsens. H02 0030
    
       Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 05PUT         
    
       Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 0001.01.0000H0200000000000†63
    
       Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 000000†63328RB4065E86CD%†63
    
       Subsystem 5 - Serial number: E86CD%†63428RB406619C8AV†63
    
       Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 19C8AV†63747RB4067B77F70†63
    
       Subsystem 7 - Serial number: B77F70†63847RB4067B7D39/
    
       Subsystem 8 - Serial number: B7D39/
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 8P0-953-549-F.lbl
       Part No SW: 8P0 953 549 F    HW: 8P0 953 549 F
       Component: J0527           H37 0070  
       Coding: 0004141
       Shop #: WSC 02197 785 00200
       VCID: 41DC4D921D873D3F144-8014
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
       Component: E0221           H06 0030
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 420-920-xxx-17.clb
       Part No SW: 420 920 981 K    HW: 420 920 981 K
       Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H02 0650  
       Revision: D0H02002    Serial number: 224NK002000358
       Coding: 0081288
       Shop #: WSC 47389 001 1048576
       VCID: 1E66D6EECCB922C7496-804A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
       Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 N    HW: 1K0 907 951 
       Component: J533  Gateway H43 1623  
       Revision:   H43       Serial number: 111111F1001090
       Coding: 354100
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 3B203F7A736B57EF4E8-806E
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01342 - Engine Control Module 2 (Slave 1) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00110100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 44
                        Reset counter: 163
                        Mileage: 25518 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2017.10.11
                        Time: 12:34:24
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No SW: 420 920 981 K    HW: 420 920 981 K
       Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H02 0650  
       Revision: D0H02002    Serial number: AUX7Z0KNFN90J4
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 1E66D6EECCB922C7496-804A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 37: Navigation        Labels: 8E0-035-192-RNSE.clb
       Part No SW: 423 035 192 H    HW: 423 035 192 H
       Component: RNS-E PU US     H06 0210  
       Revision: 0000013S    Serial number: AUZBZ7L7201361
       Coding: 0730677
       Shop #: WSC 02197 785 00200
       VCID: 1574C9C2398F619F98C-8040
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 8P0-959-801-MAX3.lbl
       Part No SW: 420 959 801 H    HW: 420 959 801 H
       Component: Tuer-SG         H04 0103  
       Coding: 0005245
       Shop #: WSC 02197 785 00200
       VCID: 1E66D6EECCB922C7496-804A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 47: Sound System        Labels: None
       Part No SW: 427 035 223     HW: 427 035 223 
       Component: J525 Amp High   H04 0030  
       Revision: 00H04001    Serial number: 94842000565704
       Coding: 0246111
       Shop #: WSC 02197 785 00200
       VCID: 4CC26CA62AC5E057F72-8018
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MAX3.clb
       Part No SW: 420 959 802 H    HW: 420 959 802 H
       Component: Tuer-SG         H04 0103  
       Coding: 0005245
       Shop #: WSC 02197 785 00200
       VCID: 1F18EBEACBB32BCF420-804A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio        Labels: 8E0-035-192-RNSE.clb
       Part No SW: 423 035 192 H    HW: 423 035 192 H
       Component: RNS-E PU US     H06 0210  
       Revision: 0000013S    Serial number: AUZBZ7L7201361
       Coding: 0730677
       Shop #: WSC 02197 785 00200
       VCID: 1574C9C2398F619F98C-8040
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 61: Battery Regul. (J840)       Labels:. 1K0-907-534.clb
       Part No SW: 7N0 907 534     HW: 1K0 907 951 
       Component: Batt.regelung H43 1623  
       Serial number: 111111F1001090
       Coding: F3260148
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 71BCDD5261A7EDBFA44-8024
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 420 915 181     HW: 420 915 181 
       Component: J367-BDM  H07 0140 
       Serial number: 00000000005650785607
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 65: Tire Pressure        Labels: None
       Part No SW: 420 910 273 A    HW: 4F0 907 273 A
       Component: Reifendruck 3   H05 0040  
       Revision: 00050040    Serial number: 00000900008154
       Coding: 0462426
       Shop #: WSC 02197 785 00200
       VCID: 0D44A1A2115FA95F20C-8058
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 6C: Back-up Cam.        Labels: 420-910-441.clb
       Part No SW: 420 910 441 A    HW: 7L6 907 441 C
       Component: J772__Rearview      0010  
       Revision: --H13---    Serial number: 525PA8-J1Y600O
       Coding: 1020412
       Shop #: WSC 02197 785 00200
       VCID: 0A4EAABE6031BE6705E-805E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 77: Telephone        Labels: 8P0-862-335.lbl
       Part No SW: 8P1 862 336 A    HW: 8P1 862 336 
       Component: FSE_256x BT     H44 0660  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000005159387
       Coding: 0011477
       Shop #: WSC 02556 785 00200
       VCID: 36362E4E44498A87B16-8062
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address A6: Microphone (J886)       Labels:. 420-907-394.clb
       Part No SW: 420 907 394     HW: 420 907 394 
       Component: BELTMICBOX    H09 0060  
       Coding: 0100010202
       Shop #: WSC 02197 785 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_BeltMicAU715 002011
       ROD: EV_BeltMicAU715_002.rod
       VCID: 56F68ECEE889AA87516-8002
    
    6 Faults Found:
    0032 - Microphone 1 for Passenver Side 
              B1206 13 [009] - Open Circuit
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 4
                        Fault Frequency: 29
    
    0048 - Microphone 2 for Passenver Side 
              B1207 13 [009] - Open Circuit
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 4
                        Fault Frequency: 29
    
    0064 - Microphone 3 for Passenver Side 
              B1208 13 [009] - Open Circuit
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 4
                        Fault Frequency: 28
    
    0080 - Microphone 1 for Drivers Side 
              B1203 13 [009] - Open Circuit
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 4
                        Fault Frequency: 16
                        Mileage: 23345 km
                        Date: 2017.02.26
                        Time: 08:19:34
    
    0096 - Microphone 2 for Drivers Side 
              B1204 13 [009] - Open Circuit
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 4
                        Fault Frequency: 16
                        Mileage: 23345 km
                        Date: 2017.02.26
                        Time: 08:19:34
    
    0112 - Microphone 3 for Drivers Side 
              B1205 13 [009] - Open Circuit
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 4
                        Fault Frequency: 17
    
    
    End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:34, VBatt start/end: 12.5V/12.4V)-----------
    Last edited by TheCzarofMexico; 10-17-2017 at 08:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCzarofMexico View Post
    Yes the TCM has been tuned. No I'm not sure although I don't know why he would disable that or how to check or re-enable it as I'm very new to VCDS.
    You'll need to ask the tuner I reckon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PetrolDave View Post
    You'll need to ask the tuner I reckon.
    They have a strange tendency to be clueless or in denial when it comes to this kind of thing.

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    Presuming it was tuned via vcds and the kiss point test disabled, how would I check?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCzarofMexico View Post
    Presuming it was tuned via vcds
    VCDS does not do tuning.

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    I was under the impression that albeit time consuming, the trans could be tuned via vcds

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCzarofMexico View Post
    I was under the impression that albeit time consuming, the trans could be tuned via vcds
    Not true, VCDS cannot be used for flashing firmware - it can change coding and adaptation values (where the original VAG firmware allows) but it cannot change the firmware.

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