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    OEM Xenon W/LED Headlight Retrofit - 2016 VW Golf SportWagen (MK7)

    Hi,

    This is my first post in Ross-Tech forum.

    I have a 2016 VW Golf SportWagen S 1.4 TSI M/T (ROW Spec) and I bought a couple of OEM Xenon W/LED Headlight (W/O side markers) 5GM 941751 B / 5GM 941752 B.

    Before start the headlights retrofit, I checked about this topic in the Ross-Tech and Golf MK7 forum, and to get this process the BCM and CAN Gateway I noticed that will be necessary to replace for “Highline” version.

    I checked my BCM is the reference 5Q0 937 086 AH (BCM PQ37BOSCH 028 0162) and in the CAN Gateway is the reference 5Q0 907 530 AG (GW MQB Low 210 2246), then considering these parts are “Lowline”, I have to replace BCM (my byte 2 does not have a choice of xenon), CAN Gateway (my cannot support AFS, but I do not care about this function).

    After replace these parts I have to go to the dealer who will to remove the “protect component” with FAZIT, besides make VAGCOM adaptation coding changes by myself.

    I would like to confirm if in my case is it possible to follow this process to retrofit and, just in case, could someone provide me what changes I have to apply in light channels considering my vehicle?

    Best Regards,

    Mitio

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    Please make it a good habit to start with an autoscan. Even though your TS is quite comprehensive, it is always helpful
    Last edited by Uwe; 10-08-2017 at 06:25 PM. Reason: Added link

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    Hi, ok, please follow below autoscan:

    Code:
    Chassis Type: AU (5Q0)
    Scan: 01 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 42 44 52 5F
    
    VIN: 3VWWJ6AU4GM517334   Mileage: 6466km-4017miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
     
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (J623-CHPA)       Labels: 04E-907-309-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 04E 906 016 CR    HW: 04E 907 309 A
       Component: 1,4l R4 TSI   H11 7865  
       Revision: WAH11---    
       Coding: 01190032230401080000
       Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00226
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM14TFS01104E906016CR 002006
       ROD: EV_ECM14TFS01104E906016F.rod
       VCID: 74E7FC58DFBCF6E1FD-8020
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0000 0000
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 5Q0-907-379-ESP-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 3Q0 907 379 T    HW: 3Q0 907 379 C
       Component: ESC           H32 0393  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 53315000000113
       Coding: 04FA6AA124216973007A060341C7292056249600608294F200230030C002
       Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100ESP 034033
       ROD: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100ESP_034_VW37.rod
       VCID: 4B9547A4E2C2C9194C-801E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels: 5G0-907-426.clb
       Part No SW: 5GM 907 426     HW: 5GM 907 426 
       Component: AC Manuell    H02 1001  
       Revision: 00001K01    
       Coding: 02020004100100001000000000000002
       Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ACManueBHBVW37X 003019
       ROD: EV_ACManueBHBVW37X_SK48.rod
       VCID: 0501B19C8426FF69DA-8050
    
       Fresh Air Blower Front: 
    
       Refrigerant Pressure And Temperature Sender: 
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 5Q0-937-08X-MV1.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 937 086 AH    HW: 5Q0 937 086 AH
       Component: BCM PQ37BOSCH 028 0162  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 86582206150023
       Coding: 00000842C241005B0BA44080B10403081000000000000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00202
       ASAM Dataset: EV_BodyContrModul1UDSBosc 015002
       ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_016_AU37.rod
       VCID: 000FA0889B04DA41E9-8054
    
       Control Unit For Wiper Motor: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5GM 955 119     HW: 5GM 955 119   Labels: 5QX-955-119-V1.CLB
       Component: WWS    150809  043 0581 
       Serial number:         151215184224
       Coding: 0E4DDD
    
       Sensor For Anti Theft Alarm System: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5Q0 951 172     HW: 5Q0 951 172 
       Component: Sensor, DWA  005 0316 
       Serial number: 000000000ZY1524724V1
    
       Alarm horn: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5Q0 951 605 A    HW: 5Q0 951 605 A
       Component: Sirene, DWA  005 0312 
       Serial number: 00000000000033487552
    
    3 Faults Found:
    550420 - Databus 
              U1123 00 [008] - Received Error Message
              Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 197
                        Reset counter: 193
                        Mileage: 5488 km
                        Date: 2017.06.11
                        Time: 20:18:07
    
    12810 - Bulb for Right Back-up Light 
              B12CC 15 [008] - Open or Short to Plus
              Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    
    263442 - Siren / Alarm Horn for Anti-Theft Alarm System 
              B131D F7 [008] - No Release by Immobilizer
              Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 192
                        Mileage: 5603 km
                        Date: 2017.06.14
                        Time: 08:13:58
    
    
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    Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels: 5Q0-919-294.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 919 294 K    HW: 5Q0 919 294 A
       Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H03 0054  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 39391530704209
       Coding: 0031051001
       Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA18AU3700000 002026
       ROD: EV_EPHVA18AU3700000_VW37.rod
       VCID: 43856F84CA920159B4-8016
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 5Q0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 959 655 D    HW: 5Q0 959 655 D
       Component: AirbagVW20    014 0385  
       Serial number: 003F6M016TXT
       Coding: 98CCC000000000005C0000CF004800000065
       Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X 002130
       ROD: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X_VW37.rod
       VCID: 4189658CD08E1349A6-8014
    
       Side Sensor Driver Front: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 002 310 15
       Component: SideSensor_Df  001 0887 
       Serial number: 357670000007A73D371-
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Side Sensor Passenger Front: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 002 310 15
       Component: SideSensor_Pf  001 0887 
       Serial number: 3586700000041B3D371T
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Side Sensor Driver Rear: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 402 410 15
       Component: SideSensor_Dr  001 6149 
       Serial number: 3516502A31D3F974329F
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Side Sensor Passenger Rear: 
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 402 310 15
       Component: SideSensor_Pr  001 6149 
       Serial number: 3526502AB1D3F971B06O
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Front Sensor Driver: 
       Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 400 309 15
       Component: FrontSensor_D  001 6149 
       Serial number: 3556502C91D1B624C26J
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel (J524)       Labels: 5Q0-953-549.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 953 521 L    HW: 5Q0 953 569 A
       Component: Lenks.Modul   075 0195  
       Revision: FF033033    Serial number: 20151127500639
       Coding: 0600
       Shop #: WSC 66564 385 16448
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSVALEOMQB 001015
       ROD: EV_SMLSVALEOMQB.rod
       VCID: 3B751764B2627999FC-806E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb
       Part No SW: 5G1 920 740 A    HW: 5G1 920 740 A
       Component: KOMBI         242 6420  
       Coding: 03A51100A180880C02093E001000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00202
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 009046
       ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_009_VW26.rod
       VCID: 2447CC182FDC2661AD-8070
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 5Q0-907-530-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 907 530 AG    HW: 5Q0 907 530 K
       Component: GW MQB Low    210 2246  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 08111510801474
       Coding: 030000043F085700FB000048080F00010001050000000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00199
       ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewConti 013020
       ROD: EV_GatewConti_013.rod
       VCID: 76E3C650C9C0E4F1C3-8022
    
       Alternator: 
    
       Battery Monitoring Control Module: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5Q0 915 181 G    HW: 5Q0 915 181 G
       Component: J367-BDMHella  H04 8050 
       Serial number: 4293638103          
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels: 5QX-959-X93-42.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 959 393 E    HW: 5Q0 959 393 B
       Component: TSG FS        020 0041  
       Serial number: 2811150605035T
       Coding: 003002208000020000001000
       Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMINKLO 006003
       ROD: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT.rod
       VCID: 4189658CD08E1349A6-8014
    
       Drivers Door Rear Control Module: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q4 959 811 D    HW: 5Q4 959 811 D  Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
       Component: Fond FHSG DRV  007 0002 
       Serial number: 00000000000002425552
       Coding: 010000
    
    1 Fault Found:
    65650 - Turn Signal in Exterior Mirror 
              B11FD 13 [008] - Open Circuit
              Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 193
                        Mileage: 5488 km
                        Date: 2017.06.11
                        Time: 20:18:01
    
    
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    Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels: 5Q0-909-144.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 909 144 S    HW: 5Q0 909 144 R
       Component: EPS_MQB_ZFLS  126 1063  
       Coding: 0102
       Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00202
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisMQB 012140
       ROD: EV_SteerAssisMQB_VW31.rod
       VCID: 44876C98CF9C06618D-8010
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels: 5QX-959-X92-52.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 959 592 E    HW: 5Q0 959 592 B
       Component: TSG BFS       020 0041  
       Serial number: 20111506050CH7
       Coding: 003002208E00020000001000
       Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXKLO 006003
       ROD: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT.rod
       VCID: 428B6A80D5880851BF-8016
    
       Passengers Rear Door Control Module: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q4 959 812 D    HW: 5Q4 959 812 D  Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
       Component: Fond FHSG PSG  007 0002 
       Serial number: 00000000000002357512
       Coding: 090000
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels: 5G0-035-MIB-STD2.clb
       Part No SW: 3Q0 035 824 A    HW: 3Q0 035 824 A
       Component: MU-S--ER      620 0627  
       Serial number:               
       Coding: 02730200FF00000051220001001828001F0100C40120010003
       Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
       ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CDELP 001001
       ROD: EV_MUStd4CDELP_VW26.rod
       VCID: 2B5527244202E9196C-807E
    
       Operating And Display Unit 1: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3G0 919 605 B    HW: 3G0 919 605 B
       Component: ABT_Std-2  H53 1031 
       Serial number: VWZ8Z9RJT00069      
    
    1 Fault Found:
    0522 - Front Left Bass Speaker 
              B105F 13 [008] - Open Circuit
              Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 193
                        Mileage: 5604 km
                        Date: 2017.06.14
                        Time: 12:01:32
    
                        Voltage terminal 30: 12.1 V
    
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 03:14)--------------------------
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Address 09: DTCs cleared
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Address 42: DTCs cleared

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    VWTSI: In addition to the stuff that you have said, it might be prudent to grab a copy of a WD for your Sportswagon. If you look at the connector on your new headlight assemblies, you should find that they have 14 x pin connector (assuming that they are true OEM). A quick look at your old incandescent headlight fittings should confirm that they have a 10 x pin connector. So, stuff is connected differently between the two types of headlight assemblies and the Xenon factory loom has additional wires.

    You will need to decide how you will manage this difference - either you will need to install additional wires to the car's headlight loom from the new BCM, or you will need to install a cross wiring loom at your existing incandescent lamp connector (and of necessity, lose some functionality from the OEM set-up). Either way, this decision will be a prime determinant for what changes that will be required to the Leuchte-sets in your BCM.

    I'm sure that you will receive further advice from other colleagues here after you post-up an auto-scan

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    EDIT: which you have just done!
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    Hi Don,
    Thanks for your response.
    You are right, the OEM Xenon Headlights have 14 x pin connector and the currently incandescent headlight have 10 x pin connector. I already bought a 10 to 14 pin adapter connector.
    I would like to install the OEM Xenon Headlights with fewer changes in my Sportswagon even if I lose some functionality like auto leveling and AFS for example, but with Xenon Lamps low/high beam, Led and DRL working without error messages on dashboard.
    If it is possible to retrofit without exchange my BCM, it would be great.
    Last edited by VWTSI; 10-08-2017 at 08:45 PM.

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    Hi Don,

    Could you tell me how can I grab a copy of a WD for my Sportswagon?

    Thanks,

    Mitio

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    Please see: Where do I get a Wiring Diagram.

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    Hello Guys,
    Please find below my 2016 Golf Sportswagen WD.
    It is my first time handling this type of information, sorry if I made some mistake or did not provide enough information.
    I really appreciate if someone could help me to retrofit my OEM Xenon Headlights.

    CAN




    BASIC EQUIPMENT






    BCM











    CONTROL UNIT FOR CORNERING LIGHTS AND HEADLIGHT RANGE CONTROL





    Thanks,

    VWTSI

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    Quote Originally Posted by VWTSI View Post
    Hi Don,
    Thanks for your response.
    You are right, the OEM Xenon Headlights have 14 x pin connector and the currently incandescent headlight have 10 x pin connector. I already bought a 10 to 14 pin adapter connector.
    I would like to install the OEM Xenon Headlights with fewer changes in my Sportswagon even if I lose some functionality like auto leveling and AFS for example, but with Xenon Lamps low/high beam, Led and DRL working without error messages on dashboard.
    If it is possible to retrofit without exchange my BCM, it would be great.
    VWTSI: Hmm............ I'm not familiar with the road rules in Brazil- but will your modified car still be street legal if you fit HIDs without auto leveling? Even down here in the world's back-water, it's mandatory to fit auto-leveling and washers when the car has HIDs!

    As to your question as to whether your existing BCM/ CAN Gateway will suffice, it's really difficult to say without knowing a whole lot more about the degree of "OEM-ness" of the new headlight fittings and the nature of the cross wiring loom. I'm aware of some folk making cheap Chinese knock-off fittings work (which are meant to be OEM) with low-line BCMs, but I'm also aware of many problems when using these fittings. The irony is that the closer the new fittings are to true OEM, the less likely it is that your old control modules will be compatible with your new headlight fittings

    Assuming that Brazil's road rules do permit such retro-fits, you might consider first trying a temporary wiring arrangement and some experimentation - perhaps on one side of the car. Just as a suggestion, perhaps set-up one of the new fittings temporarily (without actually installing it on the car) with the cross wiring loom hooked-up onto the 10 x pin connector and then make some simple Leuchte programming changes to the BCM. This should at least give you a sense of the size of the problem if you keep the existing control modules (perhaps).

    Don
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