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    G85 Steering Angle Sensor locations in Golf-based cars

    This thread is intended to help sort out confusion about the location of G85 (and therefore applicable procedures for crash repairs and module replacements). Specifically in some Mk5/Mk6 based cars, there is a 44-Steering Assist module for electric power steering while others have a hydraulic power steering unit without electronics or integral sensors.



    Some applicable Wiki pages:


    The location of G85 in Mk5 and Mk6 Golf based vehicles depends primarily on the type of 03-ABS and 44-Steering assist systems that are installed. In some cases the installed 16-Steering Wheel Electronics module type in addition to the BCM/09-Central Electronics module is also relevant. I can't cover every possible scenario but these are some of the most common NAR market examples:

    1. 2005-2008 Jetta, Golf, Rabbit, Eos, Passat
    2. 2009 + Golf, Rabbit, Jetta, JSW, Eos
    3. 2011+ Golf, Rabbit, Jetta GLI, JSW, Eos
    4. 2011+ Jetta Sedan and 2012+ Beetle
    5. 2009+ VW Tiguan, 2009+ VW CC and 2010+ VW Passat
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    2005-2008 Jetta, Golf, Rabbit, Eos, Passat

    2005-2008 Jetta, Golf, Rabbit, Eos and Passat examples

    Note: The (3C) VW Passat uses an entirely different ABS type. Make sure to select the proper Wiki page when working on that model.

    The vehicle in this partial scan example is a 2008 GTI.

    Code:
    Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
    Scan: 01 03 08 09 0F 15 16 17 19 1C 25 42 44 46 52 55 56 65 77
    
    VIN: WVWED71K58W330910   Mileage: 180380km-112082miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    0F-Digital Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    1C-Position Sensing -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
    77-Telephone -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AC    HW: 1K0 907 379 AC
       Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0101  
       Revision: 00H11001    
       Coding: 0021122
       Shop #: WSC 01269 785 00200
       VCID: 73A95C6B12A554DE28-8026
    
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 BP    HW: 1K0 953 549 BP
       Component: J0527           752 0101  
       Coding: 0002022
       Shop #: WSC 01269 785 00200
       VCID: 014506A35819764E2A-8054
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
       Component: E0221           002 0010
    
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V3.clb
       Part No: 1K1 909 144 M
       Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.074 H08 1901  
       Shop #: WSC 00000 028 00001
       VCID: 352DA2735C510AEEC6-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:05, VBatt start/end: 14.3V/14.3V)-----------

    In this example we have Component: ESP FRONT MK60 ABS with a Gen 2 Steering rack based on: Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V3.clb

    The 44-Steering Assist module does NOT support an internal steering angle sensor. If you attempted to read Adaptation Channel 009: Steering Angle Sensor it would report error.
    The 16-Steering Wheel electronics, Slip Ring and G85 sensor are all sold separately in this type of vehicle.

    In this case G85 is located on the steering column behind the slip ring. If you needed to perform a calibration that would be done in the 03-ABS brake controller using this procedure: VW Golf (1K) Brake Electronics (MK60)



    The vehicle in this partial scan example is a 2007 Rabbit.
    Code:
    VIN: WVWAR71K67W199291   License Plate: 
    
    
    Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
    Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 37 42 44 46 52 56
    
    VIN: WVWAR71K67W199291   Mileage: 175120km-108814miles
    
    00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK70.lbl
       Part No: 1K0 907 379 P
       Component: ASR FRONT MK70      0105  
       Coding: 0017025
       Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
       VCID: 3FC1C05B6E6DC0BE1C-806A
    
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AF    HW: 1K0 953 549 AF
       Component: Lenksäulenmodul 036 0070  
       Coding: 0000022
       Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
       VCID: 76AF657F01D741F60F-8022
    
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V3.clb
       Part No: 1K1 909 144 L
       Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.069 H07 1806  
       Shop #: WSC 00000 028 00001
       VCID: 342B9F77572B13E6F1-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:00, VBatt start/end: 14.3V/14.2V)-----------
    This example includes Component: ASR FRONT MK70 ABS only (no ESP functions) with a Gen 2 Steering rack based on: Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V3.clb.

    The 44-Steering Assist module does NOT support an internal steering angle sensor. If you attempted to read Adaptation Channel 009: Steering Angle Sensor it would report error.
    The 16-Steering Wheel electronics, Slip Ring and G85 sensor are all sold separately in this type of vehicle.

    Like the GTI, G85 is located on the steering column behind the slip ring. However, If you needed to perform a calibration that would be done in the 44-Steering Assist module using this procedure: VW Golf (1K) Steering Assist. The 03-ABS brake module doesn't use G85 data because it doesn't support ESP!
    Last edited by Dana; 09-14-2017 at 05:03 PM.

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    2009 + Golf, Rabbit, Jetta, JSW, Eos

    As of the 2009 model year the Golf, Rabbit, Jetta, JSW and Eos models starting using a Generation 3 steering rack in addition to MK60EC1 ABS brakes.

    This is a partial scan from a 2010 GTI with Gen 3 rack:

    Code:
    Chassis Type: AJ (1K0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 1C 25 2E 37 42 44 46 47 52 55 56
              62 65 72 77
    
    VIN: WVWHD7AJ4AW057176   
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    1C-Position Sensing -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
    37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    55-Xenon Range -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
    77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AM    HW: 1K0 907 379 AM
       Component: ESP MK60EC1   H45 0108  
       Revision: 00H45001    
       Coding: 114B600CC9270001880C06EB931F0041B108
       Shop #: WSC 06483 444 12345
       VCID: 7DFAF9ADE4EA4F1
    
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY9.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 CD    HW: 1K0 953 549 CD
       Component: J0527           055 011  
       Coding: 0001832
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: 76E8E68101DC1C9
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5K0 959 542   Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
       Component: E221__MFL-TAS   H05 0010  
       Coding: 00000131
       Shop #: WSC 00000  
    
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
       Part No: 1K0 909 144 J
       Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 74     3001  
       Revision: 00H15000    
       Shop #: WSC 03743 444 178366
       VCID: 3162159DA8327B1
    
    No fault code found.
    End   ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    In this example we have Component: ESP MK60EC1 ABS with a Gen 3 Steering rack based on Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb.

    The 44-Steering Assist module supports an internal steering angle sensor. If you read Adaptation Channel 009: Steering Angle Sensor it would report the stored value of 0 = Internal Steering Angle Sensor active.
    The 16-Steering Wheel electronics and Slip Ring are sold separately in this type of vehicle but G85 is NOT installed in the steering column.

    Even though G85 is located in the steering rack you would perform a calibration in the MK60EC1 ABS control module using this page: VW Golf (1K) Brake Electronics (MK60EC1)
    Last edited by Dana; 09-15-2017 at 08:52 AM.

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    2011+ Golf, Rabbit, Jetta GLI, JSW, Eos

    As of 2011+ the Golf, Jetta GLI (only), JSW and Eos models starting using 5K0 UDS protocol 16-Steering Wheel modules that may support an G85 internal sensor which is deactivated from the factory. Like the 2010 example above, this vehicle still uses a Generation 3 steering rack in addition to MK60EC1 ABS brakes.

    Notes:

    Make sure to select the proper Wiki page when working on those models!

    2012 Golf R:

    Code:
    Chassis Type: AJ (7N0)
    Scan: 01 03 05 08 09 15 16 17 19 22 25 2B 2E 37 42 44 46 47 4C 52
              55 56
    
    VIN: WVWRF7AJ7CW226401   Mileage: 92580km-57526miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    2B-Steer. Col. Lock -- Status: OK 0000
    2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
    37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
    4C-Tire Pressure II -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BJ    HW: 1K0 907 379 BJ
       Component: ESP MK60EC1   H31 0121  
       Revision: 00H31001    
       Coding: 144B800C49248000280F01E4921A0141B70400
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: FBB9F4A17A5C509FB1-80AE
    
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 937 084 G    HW: 1K0 937 084 G
       Component: BCM PQ35  B   110 0651  
       Revision: 00110 AC    
       Coding: 77190A3FF9272A04108800C171000C6C4A650486774D8DB0E48430248040
       Shop #: WSC 12345 444 12345
       VCID: B2271985ED9651D722-80E6
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5K1 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: Wischer 21121  26  0512 
       Coding: 009795
    
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 5K0-953-569.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 953 521 BR    HW: 5K0 953 569 E
       Component: LENKS.MODUL   014 0140  
       Revision: FF010040    Serial number: 20111215300770
       Coding: 100A160002
       Shop #: WSC 12345 444 12345
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSXS A01004
       ROD: EV_SMLSNGVOLWS.rod
       VCID: FDBDFAB96C485EAF8F-80A8
    
       Multifunction steering wheel control module: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542 A    HW: 5K0 959 542 A  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
       Component: E221__MFL-TAS  H09 0013 
       Coding: 820000
    
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
       Part No: 1K0 909 144 R
       Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 251    3501  
       Revision: 00H20000    
       Shop #: WSC 58566 000 1048576
       VCID: B9352EA9F0E0A28FE3-80EC
    
    No fault code found.
    End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:05, VBatt start/end: 13.7V/13.7V)-----------
    This example is nearly identical to the 2010 GTI in post #3 in regards to the Component: ESP MK60EC1 ABS with a Gen 3 Steering rack Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb.
    The 44-Steering Assist module supports an internal steering angle sensor. If you read Adaptation Channel 009: Steering Angle Sensor it would report the stored value of 0 = Internal Steering Angle Sensor active.

    The major difference is found in address 16-Steering Wheel.
    • The Slip Ring is part of the 5K0-953-569 part number series 16-Steering Wheel module and some support an internal sensor which would not be enabled from the factory in this vehicle configuration. When the factory installed 16-Steering Wheel module is replaced it needs to be coded properly for G85 functionality.
    • Replacements should be ordered by VIN but the 5K0-953-569 section on this page should add clarity to the part numbers that do and do not support an internal G85 sensor: Steering Wheel Control Module Versions
    • Incorrect coding in a replacement 16-Steering Wheel module may prevent you from calibrating G85 in addition to causing functionality issues such an no horn, wipers, MFSW buttons, CCS and similar.


    Even though G85 is located in the steering rack you would perform a calibration in the MK60EC1 ABS control module using this page: VW Golf (1K) Brake Electronics (MK60EC1)
    Last edited by Dana; 10-11-2017 at 05:52 PM.

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    2011+ Jetta Sedan and 2012+ Beetle

    Vehicles such as the 2011+ Mk6 VW Jetta Sedan (16/AJ) (GLI excluded) and the 2012+ VW Beetle (5C/AT) do NOT use a 16-Steering Wheel module in the NAR market. These vehicles are easily identified by Components such as PQ25 BCM and BCM25.

    To complicate matters some vehicles use a fully mechanical Hydraulic Steering system (PR-Code 1N1) and some use the Electro-Mechanical steering system (PR-Code 1N3) which includes 44-Steering Assist.

    G85 can be wired directly to the PT Databus with functions such as MFSW controls handled through the Address 09-Central Electronics module -or- activated in the 44-Steering Assist module.


    This partial scan example is from a base model 2014 Jetta S:

    Code:
    Chassis Type: AJ (6N0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 17 19 25 56
    
    VIN: 3VW2K7AJXEM404847   Mileage: 250km-155miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BM    HW: 1K0 907 379 BM
       Component: ESP MK60EC1   H46 0164  
       Revision: 00H46001    
       Coding: A14B200C512208FE851304E88A201061A1100012
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: FEB0BF60691F7FCA71-80AB
    
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
       Part No SW: 5C0 937 087 J    HW: 5C0 937 087 A
       Component: BCM25 JLB H3  H34 0411  
       Revision: B2034001    Serial number: 08018347130586
       Coding: 7B994B1808AB0B0000302000240884D40042502E60000000300010002000
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: B4245D4817D3659AD7-80E1
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 AN    HW: 6R0 959 801 AN  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
       Component: J386__TSG_FT  006 5461 
       Coding: 820000
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 AS    HW: 6R0 959 802 AS  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
       Component: J387__TSG_BT  006 5461 
       Coding: 820000
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 M    HW: 6R0 959 811 M
       Component: J388__TSG_HL  006 5460 
       Coding: 800000
    
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 M    HW: 6R0 959 812 M
       Component: J389__TSG_HR  006 5460 
       Coding: 800000
    
    No fault code found.
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 01:26)--------------------------
    That Jetta uses Component: ESP MK60EC1 ABS with 1N1 Power steering meaning the steering rack does NOT communicate via diagnostics. This is the basic Hydraulic steering system similar to the 1998-2005 era Mk4 vehicles.

    G85 is located in the Slip Ring
    This car does NOT have a 16-Steering Wheel electronics module
    This car does NOT have a 44-Steering Assist module

    You would perform the G85 calibration in the MK60EC1 ABS control module using this page: VW Golf (1K) Brake Electronics (MK60EC1)




    This example is from a 2014 Jetta SE:

    Code:
    Wednesday,10,May,2017,19:09:54:59530
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
    VCDS Version: 17.4.2.3 (x64)  HEX-NET CB: 0.4339.4
    Data version: 20170505 DS270.4
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: 3VWD17AJ4EM216966   License Plate: KIM'S REPLACEMENT JETTA
    Mileage: 12190km-7574mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: AJ (6N0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 17 19 25 2E 44 56
    
    VIN: 3VWD17AJ4EM216966   Mileage: 12190km-7574miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BL    HW: 1K0 907 379 BL
       Component: ESP MK60EC1   H31 0152  
       Revision: 00H31001    
       Coding: A14B400C49230000851402EA921F0041A71000
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: FDB2B86C641964AFE7-80A8
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
       Part No SW: 5C0 937 087 J    HW: 5C0 937 087 A
       Component: BCM25 JLB H3  H34 0411  
       Revision: B2034001    Serial number: 08013241130534
       Coding: 7B994B1808AB0B0000302000240884D400C2502E60004000300010002000
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: B4245D4817D365E758-80E0
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 AN    HW: 6R0 959 801 AN  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
       Component: J386__TSG_FT  006 5461 
       Serial number: 14102585130807085218
       Coding: 820000
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 AS    HW: 6R0 959 802 AS  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
       Component: J387__TSG_BT  006 5461 
       Serial number: 14102584130808182213
       Coding: 820000
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 M    HW: 6R0 959 811 M
       Component: J388__TSG_HL  006 5460 
       Serial number: 14102587130807215231
       Coding: 800000
    
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 M    HW: 6R0 959 812 M
       Component: J389__TSG_HR  006 5460 
       Serial number: 14102586130809083434
       Coding: 800000
    
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
       Part No: 1K0 909 144 R
       Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 69     3501  
       Revision: 00H22000    
       Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
       VCID: B93A6C7CF0B1988F8B-80EC
    
    No fault code found.
    End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:03, VBatt start/end: 12.4V/12.4V)-----------
    The Jetta SE uses Component: ESP MK60EC1 ABS with 1N3 Speed-related variable steering assist (Servotronic) so it has a Gen 3 Steering rack Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb.

    The 44-Steering Assist module supports an internal steering angle sensor that would be activated from the factory.
    If you read Adaptation Channel 009: Steering Angle Sensor it would report the stored value of 0 = Internal Steering Angle Sensor active.
    G85 is NOT located in the Slip Ring
    This car does NOT use a 16-Steering Wheel electronics module

    You would perform the G85 calibration in the MK60EC1 ABS control module using this page: VW Golf (1K) Brake Electronics (MK60EC1)
    Last edited by Dana; 09-19-2017 at 05:31 PM.

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    2009+ VW Tiguan, 2009+ VW CC and 2010+ VW Passat

    Although the exact production splits vary the 2009+ VW Tiguan (5N/AX), 2009+ VW CC (35/AN) and 2010+ VW Passat (3C/AN) typically use 5N1 part number 44-Steering Assist modules.

    The VW Passat appears to split 1K and 5N rack types during production at: June, 30 2009
    Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V3.clb
    Part No: 1K1 909 144 M
    Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.135 H08 1901

    Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 5N1-909-144.clb
    Part No SW: 5N1 909 144 J HW: 5N1 909 148 F
    Component: J500__APA-BS KL.082 0502

    5N1 part number steering racks with Component J500 do NOT support an internal Steering Angle Sensor.

    To complicate matters:
    VW CC (35/AN) and VW Passat (3C/AN)
    • Models built before October, 31st 2009 use the older CAN protocol 16-Steering Wheel module.
    • Models built after November, 1st 2009 use the UDS protocol 16-Steering Wheel module.

    VW Tiguan (5N/AX)
    • Models build before May, 30th 2010 use the older CAN protocol 16-Steering Wheel module.
    • Models build after May, 31th 2010 use the UDS protocol 16-Steering Wheel module.


    2012 Tiguan:
    Code:
    Chassis Type: AX-VW36 (7N0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 15 16 17 19 22 25 2B 2E 36 37 42 44 46 47
              4C 4F 52 53 55 56 62 72 77
    
    VIN: WVGBV7AX1CW000438   Mileage: 81730km-50784miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    2B-Steer. Col. Lock -- Status: OK 0000
    2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
    36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
    37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
    4C-Tire Pressure II -- Status: OK 0000
    4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
    55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 5N0-614-109-C6.clb
       Part No SW: 5N0 614 109 AH    HW: 5N0 614 109 AH
       Component: J104   C6 450M VD0A 0003  
       Revision: --H07---    Serial number: 00000004361248
       Coding: 0005161
       Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
       VCID: F1AA945CE84110CEF5-80A4
    
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5K0-953-569.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 953 501 BL    HW: 5K0 953 569 L
       Component: LENKS.MODUL   014 0140  
       Revision: FF010040    Serial number: 20110614101144
       Coding: 110A140000
       Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS A03004
       ROD: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS.rod
       VCID: F5A2A04C54293CEE29-80A0
    
       Multifunction steering wheel control module: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542 A    HW: 5K0 959 542 A  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
       Component: E221__MFL-TAS  H09 0013 
       Coding: 820000
    
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 5N1-909-144.clb
       Part No SW: 5N1 909 144 L    HW: 5N1 909 148 G
       Component: J500__APA-BS KL.287 0802  
       Revision: 1AH03831    Serial number: 00111610436101
       Coding: 0000258
       Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
       VCID: BB367674FA8DAA9E1F-80EE
    
    No fault code found.
    This 2012 Tiguan uses the newer UDS protocol 16-Steering Wheel module. The steering angle sensor and slip ring are sold as one integrated component which is the 16-Steering Wheel control module. When it is replaced the coding needs to be performed before G85 calibration is possible. This is similar to the Golf R example in post #4.

    G85 is calibrated in the 03-ABS module using the procedure on this page: VW Tiguan (5N) Brake Electronics

    2009 Passat:
    Code:
    Chassis Type: 3C-VW46 (3C0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0F 15 16 17 19 1C 25 42 44 46 52 53 56 62 65
              72
    
    VIN: WVWJK73C09P060202   Mileage: 191690km-119110miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    0F-Digital Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    1C-Position Sensing -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 3C0-614-109-C4.clb
       Part No SW: 3C0 614 109 T    HW: 3C0 614 109 T
       Component: J104    C4 440 V2   0013  
       Revision: --025---    Serial number: 00000786428655
       Coding: 0000376
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00001
       VCID: AF2110FA3E1B9D3E02-80FA
    
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 3C0-953-549-SW25.lbl
       Part No SW: 3C0 953 549 AJ    HW: 3C0 953 549 AJ
       Component: J0527               0030  
       Revision: 00032000    Serial number: 3C5953507CN   
       Coding: 0001111
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00001
       VCID: F4ABDF9697BDFEE6BF-80A0
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
       Component: E0221           002 0030
    
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 5N1-909-144.clb
       Part No SW: 5N1 909 144 J    HW: 5N1 909 148 F
       Component: J500__APA-BS KL.082 0502  
       Revision: 1AH02240    Serial number: 00083300157302
       Coding: 0000258
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00001
       VCID: B9352EA2F05F438EAC-80EC
    
    No fault code found.
    This 2009 Passat uses the older CAN protocol 16-Steering Wheel module. In this case G85 is located on the steering column behind the slip ring. The 16-Steering Wheel electronics, Slip Ring and G85 sensor are all sold separately in this type of vehicle. This is similar to the Passat example in post #2.

    Since this is the newer Passat with 5N1 part number steering rack and C4 ABS, G85 is calibrated in the 03-ABS module using the procedure on the same page as our 2012 Tiguan example above: VW Tiguan (5N) Brake Electronics
    Last edited by Dana; 10-12-2017 at 06:09 AM.

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