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    To say the $35,000 Model 3 is important to Tesla would be an understatement.
    What $35,000 Model 3? As far as I'm aware, not a single one has been sold at that price, nor is there even a date as to when such a car can actually be configured/ordered.

    Current Model 3s being shipped are all ~$50,000 cars. And Tesla is still losing money. I really wonder how long they can keep raising new capital?
    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    I don't disagree, but as long as they are able to, it will push every other auto manufacturer to improve their products.

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    Am I doing it right?


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    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    Might want to get some of this for the fuel tank.....


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    Hey, it uses organic artisan power:


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    Musing out loud - which generates less total pollution?

    1. Driving a car charged by electricity generated mainly by coal fired power stations which is then fed several hundred miles over lossy overhead lines to a charging system that charges batteries that typically take 40% more energy to recharge than they deliver?

    or:

    2. Driving a car fuelled by gasoline that is drilled as crude oil then piped several hundred miles to a refinery which cracks it into several useful sections including gasoline that is then pumped several hundred miles through pipelines to a distribution center where it is trucked to gas stations where you fill the tank which a gasoline engine then burns?

    There's so many steps in each of those scenarios I don't have a clue which is the most/least efficient and hence which is the least/most polluting? Maybe the only real difference is just moving the pollution from the vehicle to the electricity generating plant?

    Just asking as I don't know the answer... and information from either the oil companies or the green lobby cannot be seen as independent so must be treated as biased by an enquiring scientific mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PetrolDave View Post
    Just asking as I don't know the answer... and information from either the oil companies or the green lobby cannot be seen as independent so must be treated as biased by an enquiring scientific mind.
    I don't either. If electricity were mostly generated via non-fossil fuel energy sources (nuclear, hydro, solar, wind, etc) then the answer would be fairly easy to deduce. But that isn't the case in most markets.

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    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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