RNS 510 retrofit radio malfunction codes

   #1  

ctsailor55

Verified VCDS User
Verified
Joined
Jun 16, 2017
Messages
3
Reaction score
0
Location
USA
VCDS Serial number
C?ID=16043
Greetings all. I have a 2014 JSW (built 2/14). I replaced the OEM RCD 510 with a RNS 510 version N radio/GPS (built 9/14) that came out of a 2015 Passat .
After installation, I had some minor issues but cleared those up with VCDS, these forums, and removing the compass module.
I was finally able to clear the can gateway fault code.
I still have the fault codes for the #37 navigation mode for control module and microphone for radio.
I think the microphone issue needs a hard wire connection but what code should the #37 control module be using? I haven't found it yet.

I ran the full scan but only post the pertinent info here (no other fault codes reported).
Any input or feedback greatly appreciated.

Code:
Friday,16,June,2017,21:32:05:25028
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 17.1.3.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4336.4
Data version: 20170320 DS267.7
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: 3VWML7AJ6EM620622   License Plate: 


Chassis Type: AJ (7N0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 2E 37 42 44 46 52 56 62 72 77

VIN: 3VWML7AJ6EM620622   Mileage: 86550km-53779miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 AK    HW: 7N0 907 530 AK
   Component: J533  Gateway H57 1642  
   Revision:   H57       Serial number: 24041403000976
   Coding: 352002
   Shop #: WSC 00066 123 12345
   VCID: 79ACE413B9DF4E8F6A7-802C

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 37: Navigation (J0506)       Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 3C0 035 684 N    HW: 3C0 035 684 N
   Component: RNS-MID       H26 5378  
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7P3269019
   Coding: 0400004201000010000B
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   VCID: 2E06074F301159378F5-807A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 919 859 
   Component: NAR V8  8112 

2 Faults Found:
01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded 
            000 -  - 
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 8
                    Reset counter: 162
                    Mileage: 86544 km
                    Time Indication: 0

01523 - Microphone for Telephone (R38) 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 162
                    Mileage: 86550 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2017.06.16
                    Time: 20:45:26



-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio (J0506)       Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 3C0 035 684 N    HW: 3C0 035 684 N
   Component: RNS-MID       H26 5378  
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7P3269019
   Coding: 0400004201000010000B
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   VCID: 2E06074F301159378F5-807A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 919 859 
   Component: NAR V8  8112 

2 Faults Found:
01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded 
            000 -  - 
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 9
                    Reset counter: 162
                    Mileage: 86544 km
                    Time Indication: 0

01523 - Microphone for Telephone (R38) 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 162
                    Mileage: 86550 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2017.06.16
                    Time: 20:45:26


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels: 5N0-035-729.clb
   Part No SW: 5N0 035 729 A    HW: 5N0 035 729 A
   Component: TELEFON       H05 0592  
   Revision: 1B001001    Serial number: 00007665901500
   Coding: 0A10030080010110
   Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVUMI 001007
   ROD: EV_UHVUMI.rod
   VCID: 2E06074F309159378F5-807A

No fault code found.

End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:10, VBatt start/end: 12.3V/12.3V)-----------
 
Last edited by a moderator:
   #2  

kamold

Verified VCDS User
Verified
Joined
Mar 9, 2015
Messages
475
Reaction score
336
Location
Australia
VCDS Serial number
C?ID=241363
If you post your complete autoscan it's going to be easier to determine what you've done wrong with your coding.
It will show what other modules you have installed like RVC, steering wheel type etc.

Basically you need to go through all the coding bytes for your RNS (they are all documented in the long coding helper) and make sure the settings match what is in your car.
The mic error is because your microphone is not correctly wired/connected. If you don't have or want a microphone then you need to remove the mic (byte 3 bit 1).
 
  • Like
Reactions: Uwe
   #3  

ctsailor55

Verified VCDS User
Verified
Joined
Jun 16, 2017
Messages
3
Reaction score
0
Location
USA
VCDS Serial number
C?ID=16043
Thanks for the reply. The CAN gateway fault is gone but I still have 2 left on the nav system. Everything seems to work except no voice commands for the navigation (voice ok for phone). I'm not sure what should be checked off in the long code helper. Any help is greatly appreciated.

Here's the full auto scan:
Code:
Tuesday,20,June,2017,21:21:45:25028
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 17.1.3.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4336.4
Data version: 20170320 DS267.7
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: 3VWML7AJ6EM620622   License Plate: 


Chassis Type: AJ (7N0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 2E 37 42 44 46 52 56 62 72 77

VIN: 3VWML7AJ6EM620622   Mileage: 87150km-54152miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (CJA)       Labels: 03L-906-022-CBE.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 906 019 JS    HW: 03L 907 309 AA
   Component: R4 2,0L EDC G000SG  8183  
   Revision: 12H16---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0050072
   Shop #: WSC 58947 001 1048576
   VCID: 055498E3C9273A6F1EF-8050

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BM    HW: 1K0 907 379 BM
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H46 0164  
   Revision: 00H46001    
   Coding: 114B600C492400FA881106E6921B0042A1000022
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 7EA6F70FA0F169B75F5-802A

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels: 3C8-907-336.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 426 CA    HW: 7N0 907 426 CA
   Component: AC Manuell    H20 0606  
   Revision: 00001002    
   Coding: 0010002002
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00119
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACManueBHBVW36X A01010
   ROD: EV_ACManueBHBVW36X_VW36.rod
   VCID: 75B4E82395472AEF0EF-8020

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 937 084 L    HW: 5K0 937 084 L
   Component: BCM PQ35 B    122 0173  
   Revision: BG122001    
   Coding: AF380E1A802F3EC4008800C17000004449000086535D0520648020200040
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 3B203E1BF363BC9F38B-806E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5K1 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 26041  26  0512 
   Coding: 009795

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 5C0 959 655 M    HW: 5C0 959 655 M
   Component: AirbagVW10G   014 0726  
   Serial number: 003L4R02ZJN5  
   Coding: 00004E42
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360 001026
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360.rod
   VCID: 3C223D07F6EDBBA7311-8068

   Seat occupied recognition: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1KM 959 339 B    HW: 1KM 959 339 B
   Component: BF-Gewichtss.  006 0001 
   Serial number: ---0000R--0000AG7H00

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 1KM 955 557     HW: 1KM 955 557 
   Component: S.Sens.Fahr.V  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3572MSME50160C45ZZZQ

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 1KM 955 557     HW: 1KM 955 557 
   Component: S.Sens.Beif.V  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3582MSME7D593C42ZZZ6

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
   Component: S.Sens.Fahr.H  --- ---- 
   Serial number: 3511HSME4A312730ZZZB

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
   Component: S.Sens.Beif.H  --- ---- 
   Serial number: 3521HSME35042730ZZZ6

   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side: 
   Component: F.Sens.Fahr  --- ---- 
   Serial number: 35527SME1C154630ZZZ8

   Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side: 
   Component: F.Sens.Beif  --- ---- 
   Serial number: 35627SME71743C30ZZZE

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 5K0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 507 BC    HW: 5K0 953 549 E
   Component: Lenks.Modul   008 0090  
   Revision: --------    Serial number:  90440NC50002S
   Coding: 108A140000
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00013
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGKUDS A05001
   ROD: EV_SMLSNGKUDS_VW32.rod
   VCID: 72BED33FE4293DD72BD-8026

   Multifunction steering wheel control module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542 C    HW: 5K0 959 542 C  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-TAS  H31 0037 
   Serial number: 0306784 FLE 20140313
   Coding: 820000

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 920 973 G    HW: 5K0 920 973 G
   Component: KOMBI         H04 0811  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 270F01
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00119
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04721
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW25.rod
   VCID: 35342823D5C76AEFCEF-8060

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 AK    HW: 7N0 907 530 AK
   Component: J533  Gateway H57 1642  
   Revision:   H57       Serial number: 24041403000976
   Coding: 352002
   Shop #: WSC 00066 123 12345
   VCID: 79ACE413B9DF4E8F6A7-802C

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H04 0811  
   Serial number:               
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
   VCID: 6A8ECB5FCCF9F51793D-803E

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 2E: Media Player 3
Cannot be reached

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 37: Navigation (J0506)       Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 3C0 035 684 N    HW: 3C0 035 684 N
   Component: RNS-MID       H26 5378  
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7P3269019
   Coding: 0400004201000010000B
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   VCID: 2E06074F301159378F5-807A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 919 859 
   Component: NAR V8  8112 

2 Faults Found:
01523 - Microphone for Telephone (R38) 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 170
                    Mileage: 87150 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2017.06.20
                    Time: 21:18:31

01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded 
            000 -  - 
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 170
                    Mileage: 87144 km
                    Time Indication: 0


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels: 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
   Part No SW: 561 959 701     HW: 3C0 959 793 B
   Component: TUER-SG FT    002 0501  
   Revision: 13110009    Serial number: 0008242391
   Coding: 0004B5
   Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
   ROD: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X.rod
   VCID: 5BE09E9B13A39C9F18B-800E

   Slave Driver: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C0 959 703 C    HW: 3C0 959 795 D  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
   Component: J388__TSG-HL  009 1509 
   Serial number: 00000008602362      
   Coding: 000490

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 R
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 70     3501  
   Revision: 00H22000    
   Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
   VCID: 392C2413F55F8E8F2A7-806C

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels: 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
   Part No SW: 561 959 702     HW: 3C0 959 792 B
   Component: TUER-SG BT    002 0501  
   Revision: 15110009    Serial number: 0008185403
   Coding: 0004B4
   Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
   ROD: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X.rod
   VCID: 5CE29D8716AD9BA7111-8008

   Slave Passenger: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C0 959 704 C    HW: 3C0 959 794 D  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
   Component: J389__TSG-HR  009 1509 
   Serial number: 00000008592697      
   Coding: 000490

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio (J0506)       Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 3C0 035 684 N    HW: 3C0 035 684 N
   Component: RNS-MID       H26 5378  
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7P3269019
   Coding: 0400004201000010000B
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   VCID: 2E06074F301159378F5-807A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 919 859 
   Component: NAR V8  8112 

2 Faults Found:
01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded 
            000 -  - 
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 170
                    Mileage: 87144 km
                    Time Indication: 0

01523 - Microphone for Telephone (R38) 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 170
                    Mileage: 87150 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2017.06.20
                    Time: 21:18:31


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels: 5N0-035-729.clb
   Part No SW: 5N0 035 729 A    HW: 5N0 035 729 A
   Component: TELEFON       H05 0592  
   Revision: 1B001001    Serial number: 00007665901500
   Coding: 0A10030080010110
   Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVUMI 001007
   ROD: EV_UHVUMI.rod
   VCID: 2E06074F309159378F5-807A

No fault code found.

End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:19, VBatt start/end: 12.7V/12.7V)-----------
 
Last edited by a moderator:
   #4  

kamold

Verified VCDS User
Verified
Joined
Mar 9, 2015
Messages
475
Reaction score
336
Location
Australia
VCDS Serial number
C?ID=241363
The mic needs to go from the head liner to the mic in pins on the rns.
Then from the mic out pins on the rns to the Bluetooth module mic in.
You likely have the mic connected only to the BT module not via the RNS
 
   #5  

downtime

Verified VCDS User
Verified
Joined
May 27, 2017
Messages
3,335
Reaction score
2,086
Location
Finland
VCDS Serial number
C?ID=280813
The mic needs to go from the head liner to the mic in pins on the rns.
Then from the mic out pins on the rns to the Bluetooth module mic in.
You likely have the mic connected only to the BT module not via the RNS

I don't think there's any MIC pins going to BT module itself. BT module is CAN connected and the information is exchanged through CAN-BUS.

When I installed RCD510 and 9W7 BT module I only connected MIC pins to the green connector block in the radio Quadlock connector. BT module only has can h + l, +12v and gnd connections to the radio.
 
   #6  

kamold

Verified VCDS User
Verified
Joined
Mar 9, 2015
Messages
475
Reaction score
336
Location
Australia
VCDS Serial number
C?ID=241363
I'm only on my phone so can't give you links but just Google.
If you want voice control on the rns it needs to be piggybacked off the BT mic.
It doesn't happen over can.
 
   #7  

downtime

Verified VCDS User
Verified
Joined
May 27, 2017
Messages
3,335
Reaction score
2,086
Location
Finland
VCDS Serial number
C?ID=280813
Ah, yes, voice control needs that true. I don't have voice control enabled as RCD510 does not support that so it only needs mic + and - to radio quadlock.

Sorry, I missed the voice control part :)
 
   #8  

ctsailor55

Verified VCDS User
Verified
Joined
Jun 16, 2017
Messages
3
Reaction score
0
Location
USA
VCDS Serial number
C?ID=16043
Thanks for the replies. I think I remember seeing something posted somewhere, where wires were jumped from one connection to another.
Any feedback for the Nav module controller and radio codes?
 
   #10  

tolunay

Verified VCDS User
Verified
Joined
Aug 17, 2015
Messages
25
Reaction score
4
Location
Netherlands
VCDS Serial number
C?ID=254125
Can you please test this coding for the navigation unit ?
0400004001000090000B
 
Back
Top