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    RNS 510 retrofit radio malfunction codes

    Greetings all. I have a 2014 JSW (built 2/14). I replaced the OEM RCD 510 with a RNS 510 version N radio/GPS (built 9/14) that came out of a 2015 Passat .
    After installation, I had some minor issues but cleared those up with VCDS, these forums, and removing the compass module.
    I was finally able to clear the can gateway fault code.
    I still have the fault codes for the #37 navigation mode for control module and microphone for radio.
    I think the microphone issue needs a hard wire connection but what code should the #37 control module be using? I haven't found it yet.

    I ran the full scan but only post the pertinent info here (no other fault codes reported).
    Any input or feedback greatly appreciated.

    Code:
    Friday,16,June,2017,21:32:05:25028
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 17.1.3.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4336.4
    Data version: 20170320 DS267.7
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: 3VWML7AJ6EM620622   License Plate: 
    
    
    Chassis Type: AJ (7N0)
    Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 2E 37 42 44 46 52 56 62 72 77
    
    VIN: 3VWML7AJ6EM620622   Mileage: 86550km-53779miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
    37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
    77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
       Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 AK    HW: 7N0 907 530 AK
       Component: J533  Gateway H57 1642  
       Revision:   H57       Serial number: 24041403000976
       Coding: 352002
       Shop #: WSC 00066 123 12345
       VCID: 79ACE413B9DF4E8F6A7-802C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 37: Navigation (J0506)       Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
       Part No SW: 3C0 035 684 N    HW: 3C0 035 684 N
       Component: RNS-MID       H26 5378  
       Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7P3269019
       Coding: 0400004201000010000B
       Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
       VCID: 2E06074F301159378F5-807A
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 919 859 
       Component: NAR V8  8112 
    
    2 Faults Found:
    01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded 
                000 -  - 
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100000
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 8
                        Reset counter: 162
                        Mileage: 86544 km
                        Time Indication: 0
    
    01523 - Microphone for Telephone (R38) 
                011 - Open Circuit
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101011
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 3
                        Reset counter: 162
                        Mileage: 86550 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2017.06.16
                        Time: 20:45:26
    
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio (J0506)       Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
       Part No SW: 3C0 035 684 N    HW: 3C0 035 684 N
       Component: RNS-MID       H26 5378  
       Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7P3269019
       Coding: 0400004201000010000B
       Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
       VCID: 2E06074F301159378F5-807A
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 919 859 
       Component: NAR V8  8112 
    
    2 Faults Found:
    01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded 
                000 -  - 
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100000
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 9
                        Reset counter: 162
                        Mileage: 86544 km
                        Time Indication: 0
    
    01523 - Microphone for Telephone (R38) 
                011 - Open Circuit
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101011
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 3
                        Reset counter: 162
                        Mileage: 86550 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2017.06.16
                        Time: 20:45:26
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels: 5N0-035-729.clb
       Part No SW: 5N0 035 729 A    HW: 5N0 035 729 A
       Component: TELEFON       H05 0592  
       Revision: 1B001001    Serial number: 00007665901500
       Coding: 0A10030080010110
       Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVUMI 001007
       ROD: EV_UHVUMI.rod
       VCID: 2E06074F309159378F5-807A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:10, VBatt start/end: 12.3V/12.3V)-----------
    Last edited by Uwe; 06-17-2017 at 08:31 AM. Reason: CODE tags

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    If you post your complete autoscan it's going to be easier to determine what you've done wrong with your coding.
    It will show what other modules you have installed like RVC, steering wheel type etc.

    Basically you need to go through all the coding bytes for your RNS (they are all documented in the long coding helper) and make sure the settings match what is in your car.
    The mic error is because your microphone is not correctly wired/connected. If you don't have or want a microphone then you need to remove the mic (byte 3 bit 1).
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    Thanks for the reply. The CAN gateway fault is gone but I still have 2 left on the nav system. Everything seems to work except no voice commands for the navigation (voice ok for phone). I'm not sure what should be checked off in the long code helper. Any help is greatly appreciated.

    Here's the full auto scan:
    Code:
    Tuesday,20,June,2017,21:21:45:25028
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 17.1.3.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4336.4
    Data version: 20170320 DS267.7
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: 3VWML7AJ6EM620622   License Plate: 
    
    
    Chassis Type: AJ (7N0)
    Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 2E 37 42 44 46 52 56 62 72 77
    
    VIN: 3VWML7AJ6EM620622   Mileage: 87150km-54152miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
    37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
    77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (CJA)       Labels: 03L-906-022-CBE.clb
       Part No SW: 03L 906 019 JS    HW: 03L 907 309 AA
       Component: R4 2,0L EDC G000SG  8183  
       Revision: 12H16---    Serial number:               
       Coding: 0050072
       Shop #: WSC 58947 001 1048576
       VCID: 055498E3C9273A6F1EF-8050
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BM    HW: 1K0 907 379 BM
       Component: ESP MK60EC1   H46 0164  
       Revision: 00H46001    
       Coding: 114B600C492400FA881106E6921B0042A1000022
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 7EA6F70FA0F169B75F5-802A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels: 3C8-907-336.clb
       Part No SW: 7N0 907 426 CA    HW: 7N0 907 426 CA
       Component: AC Manuell    H20 0606  
       Revision: 00001002    
       Coding: 0010002002
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00119
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ACManueBHBVW36X A01010
       ROD: EV_ACManueBHBVW36X_VW36.rod
       VCID: 75B4E82395472AEF0EF-8020
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 937 084 L    HW: 5K0 937 084 L
       Component: BCM PQ35 B    122 0173  
       Revision: BG122001    
       Coding: AF380E1A802F3EC4008800C17000004449000086535D0520648020200040
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 3B203E1BF363BC9F38B-806E
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5K1 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: Wischer 26041  26  0512 
       Coding: 009795
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 5K0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 5C0 959 655 M    HW: 5C0 959 655 M
       Component: AirbagVW10G   014 0726  
       Serial number: 003L4R02ZJN5  
       Coding: 00004E42
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360 001026
       ROD: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360.rod
       VCID: 3C223D07F6EDBBA7311-8068
    
       Seat occupied recognition: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1KM 959 339 B    HW: 1KM 959 339 B
       Component: BF-Gewichtss.  006 0001 
       Serial number: ---0000R--0000AG7H00
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 1KM 955 557     HW: 1KM 955 557 
       Component: S.Sens.Fahr.V  H02 ---- 
       Serial number: 3572MSME50160C45ZZZQ
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 1KM 955 557     HW: 1KM 955 557 
       Component: S.Sens.Beif.V  H02 ---- 
       Serial number: 3582MSME7D593C42ZZZ6
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
       Component: S.Sens.Fahr.H  --- ---- 
       Serial number: 3511HSME4A312730ZZZB
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
       Component: S.Sens.Beif.H  --- ---- 
       Serial number: 3521HSME35042730ZZZ6
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side: 
       Component: F.Sens.Fahr  --- ---- 
       Serial number: 35527SME1C154630ZZZ8
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side: 
       Component: F.Sens.Beif  --- ---- 
       Serial number: 35627SME71743C30ZZZE
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 5K0-953-569.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 953 507 BC    HW: 5K0 953 549 E
       Component: Lenks.Modul   008 0090  
       Revision: --------    Serial number:  90440NC50002S
       Coding: 108A140000
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00013
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGKUDS A05001
       ROD: EV_SMLSNGKUDS_VW32.rod
       VCID: 72BED33FE4293DD72BD-8026
    
       Multifunction steering wheel control module: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542 C    HW: 5K0 959 542 C  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
       Component: E221__MFL-TAS  H31 0037 
       Serial number: 0306784 FLE 20140313
       Coding: 820000
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 920 973 G    HW: 5K0 920 973 G
       Component: KOMBI         H04 0811  
       Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 270F01
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00119
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04721
       ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW25.rod
       VCID: 35342823D5C76AEFCEF-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
       Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 AK    HW: 7N0 907 530 AK
       Component: J533  Gateway H57 1642  
       Revision:   H57       Serial number: 24041403000976
       Coding: 352002
       Shop #: WSC 00066 123 12345
       VCID: 79ACE413B9DF4E8F6A7-802C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
       Component: IMMO          H04 0811  
       Serial number:               
       Coding: 000000
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
       ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
       VCID: 6A8ECB5FCCF9F51793D-803E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 2E: Media Player 3
    Cannot be reached
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 37: Navigation (J0506)       Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
       Part No SW: 3C0 035 684 N    HW: 3C0 035 684 N
       Component: RNS-MID       H26 5378  
       Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7P3269019
       Coding: 0400004201000010000B
       Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
       VCID: 2E06074F301159378F5-807A
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 919 859 
       Component: NAR V8  8112 
    
    2 Faults Found:
    01523 - Microphone for Telephone (R38) 
                011 - Open Circuit
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101011
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 170
                        Mileage: 87150 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2017.06.20
                        Time: 21:18:31
    
    01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded 
                000 -  - 
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100000
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 170
                        Mileage: 87144 km
                        Time Indication: 0
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels: 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
       Part No SW: 561 959 701     HW: 3C0 959 793 B
       Component: TUER-SG FT    002 0501  
       Revision: 13110009    Serial number: 0008242391
       Coding: 0004B5
       Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
       ROD: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X.rod
       VCID: 5BE09E9B13A39C9F18B-800E
    
       Slave Driver: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C0 959 703 C    HW: 3C0 959 795 D  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
       Component: J388__TSG-HL  009 1509 
       Serial number: 00000008602362      
       Coding: 000490
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
       Part No: 1K0 909 144 R
       Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 70     3501  
       Revision: 00H22000    
       Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
       VCID: 392C2413F55F8E8F2A7-806C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels: 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
       Part No SW: 561 959 702     HW: 3C0 959 792 B
       Component: TUER-SG BT    002 0501  
       Revision: 15110009    Serial number: 0008185403
       Coding: 0004B4
       Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
       ROD: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X.rod
       VCID: 5CE29D8716AD9BA7111-8008
    
       Slave Passenger: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C0 959 704 C    HW: 3C0 959 794 D  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
       Component: J389__TSG-HR  009 1509 
       Serial number: 00000008592697      
       Coding: 000490
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio (J0506)       Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
       Part No SW: 3C0 035 684 N    HW: 3C0 035 684 N
       Component: RNS-MID       H26 5378  
       Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7P3269019
       Coding: 0400004201000010000B
       Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
       VCID: 2E06074F301159378F5-807A
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 919 859 
       Component: NAR V8  8112 
    
    2 Faults Found:
    01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded 
                000 -  - 
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100000
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 2
                        Reset counter: 170
                        Mileage: 87144 km
                        Time Indication: 0
    
    01523 - Microphone for Telephone (R38) 
                011 - Open Circuit
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101011
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 170
                        Mileage: 87150 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2017.06.20
                        Time: 21:18:31
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels: 5N0-035-729.clb
       Part No SW: 5N0 035 729 A    HW: 5N0 035 729 A
       Component: TELEFON       H05 0592  
       Revision: 1B001001    Serial number: 00007665901500
       Coding: 0A10030080010110
       Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVUMI 001007
       ROD: EV_UHVUMI.rod
       VCID: 2E06074F309159378F5-807A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:19, VBatt start/end: 12.7V/12.7V)-----------
    Last edited by Uwe; 06-20-2017 at 09:29 PM. Reason: CODE tags

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    The mic needs to go from the head liner to the mic in pins on the rns.
    Then from the mic out pins on the rns to the Bluetooth module mic in.
    You likely have the mic connected only to the BT module not via the RNS

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    Quote Originally Posted by kamold View Post
    The mic needs to go from the head liner to the mic in pins on the rns.
    Then from the mic out pins on the rns to the Bluetooth module mic in.
    You likely have the mic connected only to the BT module not via the RNS
    I don't think there's any MIC pins going to BT module itself. BT module is CAN connected and the information is exchanged through CAN-BUS.

    When I installed RCD510 and 9W7 BT module I only connected MIC pins to the green connector block in the radio Quadlock connector. BT module only has can h + l, +12v and gnd connections to the radio.

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    I'm only on my phone so can't give you links but just Google.
    If you want voice control on the rns it needs to be piggybacked off the BT mic.
    It doesn't happen over can.

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    Ah, yes, voice control needs that true. I don't have voice control enabled as RCD510 does not support that so it only needs mic + and - to radio quadlock.

    Sorry, I missed the voice control part

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    Thanks for the replies. I think I remember seeing something posted somewhere, where wires were jumped from one connection to another.
    Any feedback for the Nav module controller and radio codes?

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    Can you please test this coding for the navigation unit ?
    0400004001000090000B

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