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    Gen4 Door controllers retrofit

    Hi All,

    I've installed some Gen4 door controllers to replace my gen3s.
    The Gen4 controllers came from a RHD CC so they were already coded and parametized for that car.

    I have the following problems:
    -Missing calibration errors against both front door controllers.
    -Autorun works down on front doors but they won't autorun back up
    -Rear door switches operate in reverse ie push down and windows come up, pull up and they go down...

    I've validated the coding against similar RHD vehicles (a B6 and a B7 who both have Gen4 controllers from factory).
    I've tried turning the RHD bit on and off for rear doors, as well as rear door control modules bit on and off neither makes any difference.
    I've run the windows all the way down and held for 5 seconds, then all the way up and held then repeated many times, I can't get front door calibration to complete.

    Basic settings has a 'reset all adaptations' channel however even with SA code entered I get a request out of range error.
    I tried comparing adaptation channel maps and then trying to copy system parameter block strings however I just get 'error 0x00' when I try and apply the new data to the adaptation channel even after entering SA...

    Anyone have any ideas apart from going to the dealer for an online coding session?

    Original door controller:
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 1K0-959-701-MAX3.clb
    Part No SW: 1K0 959 701 AE HW: 1K0 959 793 P
    Component: J386 TUER-SG FT 1518
    Revision: 71009005 Serial number: 00000691888917
    Coding: 0005047
    Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
    VCID: 71E2276768A046CFF3-8024

    Autoscan with Gen4s installed:
    Code:
    Thursday,15,June,2017,12:23:08:02396
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 8 x64
    VCDS Version: 17.4.2.3 (x64)
    Data version: 20170505 DS270.4
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: WVWZZZ3CZ9E0   License Plate: 
    
    
    Chassis Type: 3C (7N0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 10 13 15 16 17 19 22 25 36 37 42 44 46 47 52
              53 55 56 62 65 6C 6D 72 77
    
    VIN: WVWZZZ3CZ9E083538   Mileage: 106920km-66437miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    13-Auto Dist. Reg -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
    37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    47-Sound System -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
    55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
    6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
    6D-Trunk Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
    77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
     
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (BWS)       Labels: 03H-906-032-BLV.clb
       Part No SW: 03H 906 032 AM    HW: 03H 906 032 AB
       Component: R3.6-FSI-EU4    A   3488  
       Revision: 5GH04---    Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
       Coding: 0000175
       Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
       VCID: 6DDA3B177498A22FD7-8038
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0000 0000
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 02E-927-770.clb
       Part No SW: 02E 300 012 E    HW: 02E 927 770 AJ
       Component: GSG DSG AG6     440 1903  
       Revision: 04844002    Serial number: 00000810231260
       Coding: 0000024
       Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
       VCID: 122048EB0D66DDD7AA-8046
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 3AA-614-109.clb
       Part No SW: 3AA 614 109 AJ    HW: 3AA 614 109 AL
       Component: J104   C2 450M VE90 0023  
       Revision: --H07---    Serial number: 00000007379684
       Coding: 0103076
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 00000
       VCID: 75EA13771CC86AEF2F-8020
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 5K0-907-044.clb
       Part No SW: 3AD 907 044 G    HW: 3AD 907 044 G
       Component: Climatronic   H03 0404  
       Revision: 00002001    
       Coding: 0011000002
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ACClimaBHBVW411 A01001
       ROD: EV_ACClimaBHBVW411_VW41.rod
       VCID: 3776D97F8E44D8FFFD-8062
    
    1 Fault Found:
    13701424 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s) 
              U1111 00 [009] - -
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 24
                        Reset counter: 144
                        Mileage: 106625 km
                        Date: 2017.06.13
                        Time: 17:09:41
    
    
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    Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 3C0-937-049-30-H.lbl
       Part No SW: 3C8 937 049 E    HW: 3C8 937 049 E
       Component: Bordnetz-SG     H54 2602  
       Revision: 00H54000    Serial number: 00000009027172
       Coding: 668E8F0700041A00470000001E000000000B79435C400120000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 00000
       VCID: 336EED6F523C34DFC1-8066
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3C2 955 119 B  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: Wischer 100908 022  0601  
       Coding: 00047029
       Shop #: WSC 12345  
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
       Component: RLS     121108 054  0402  
       Coding: 00208936
       Shop #: WSC 12345  
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels: 3C8-919-475.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 919 475 E    HW: 5K0 919 475 E
       Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H01 0013  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 97540830907185
       Coding: 300102
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029
       VCID: 3874DA438B5AD787F4-806C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 13: Auto Dist. Reg        Labels: 3AA-907-567.clb
       Part No SW: 3AA 907 567 A    HW: 3AA 907 567 
       Component: AC201  RDW A    036 0170  
       Revision: 00036000    Serial number: 00000000569541
       Coding: 0010000
       Shop #: WSC 05311 000 08193
       VCID: 3874DA434B5AD787F4-806C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 5N0-959-655.lbl
       Part No SW: 5N0 959 655     HW: 5N0 959 655 
       Component: J234__00S VW10 HI   1815  
       Revision: 19013000    Serial number: 0039BPMPB81T  
       Coding: 0012371
       Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
       VCID: 7AF0004B35D6059742-802E
    
       Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6333FTS665962908 
    
       Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6343FTS632552888 
    
       Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6353ETS6NTCKVVNR 
    
       Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6363ETS640PKVVNR 
    
       Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 00000000000000000
    
       Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 00000000000000000
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 3C0-953-569.clb
       Part No SW: 3C5 953 501 BM    HW: 5K0 953 569 T
       Component: LENKS.MODUL   016 0140  
       Revision: FF010041    Serial number: 20160725000799
       Coding: 1992A50003
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS A03004
       ROD: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS.rod
       VCID: 71E22767A0A046CFF3-8024
    
       Multifunction steering wheel control module: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542 B    HW: 5K0 959 542 B  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
       Component: E221__MFL-TAS  H30 0036 
       Coding: 830000
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 3C8-920-xxx-17.clb
       Part No SW: 3AA 920 881     HW: 3AA 920 881 
       Component: KOMBI         H03 0705  
       Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 711F01
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A05729
       ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW25.rod
       VCID: 71E22767A0A046CFF3-8024
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
       Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 BL    HW: 7N0 907 530 AN
       Component: J533  Gateway H56 1682  
       Revision:   H56       Serial number: 110114F2000857
       Coding: 462007
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
       VCID: 7BFE054FFAEC3C9F59-802E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 22: AWD        Labels: 0AY-907-554-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 0BS 907 554 A    HW: 0BS 907 554 A
       Component: Haldex 4Motion      4013  
       Coding: 0000005
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 448CBEB30792836768-8010
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 3C0-959-433-25.clb
       Part No SW: 3AA 959 433 B    HW: 3AA 959 433 B
       Component:    IMMO         052 0407  
       Revision: 00052000    Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 2097151
       VCID: 3874DA434B5AD787F4-806C
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3C0 905 861 G
       Component:    ELV          027 0380
       3C0905861G     ELV          027 0380   
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr        Labels: 3C0-959-760.lbl
       Part No SW: 3C0 959 760 E    HW: 3C0 959 760 E
       Component: Sitzverstellung     1101  
       Revision: 00005000    Serial number: 00000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 2F66E11FBE14103FA5-807A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 37: Navigation (J0506)       Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
       Part No SW: 1T0 035 686 E    HW: 1T0 035 686 E
       Component: RNS-MID       H30 6276  
       Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7M5270061
       Coding: 04050002010000910000
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 00000
       VCID: 3668D47B814E21F7E6-8062
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 919 859 G
       Component: AUNZ V9  8333 
    
    1 Fault Found:
    02877 - Digital Radio Antenna (R183) 
                011 - Open Circuit
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101011
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 83
                        Reset counter: 144
                        Mileage: 106560 km
                        Time Indication: 0
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels: 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
       Part No SW: 3C8 959 701     HW: 3C0 959 793 C
       Component: TUER-SG FT    002 0502  
       Revision: 12110009    Serial number: 0002023240
       Coding: 0013B7
       Shop #: WSC 05311 115 12345
       ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
       ROD: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X_VW32.rod
       VCID: 6DDA3B17BC98A22FD7-8038
    
       Slave Driver: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C8 959 703 C    HW: 3C0 959 795 B  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
       Component: J388__TSG-HL  004 0401 
       Serial number: 00000001872006      
       Coding: 000210
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
       Part No: 1K0 909 144 E
       Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 143    2501  
       Revision: 00H15000    
       Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
       VCID: 2C5CF6138F026B2780-8078
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 3C0-959-433-46.clb
       Part No SW: 3AA 959 433 B    HW: 3AA 959 433 B
       Component:    KSG PQ47 ELV 052 0638  
       Revision: 00052000    Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
       Coding: 00900A00D1034E7F000294157008DFCE607801
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 00000
       VCID: 3874DA434B5AD787F4-806C
    
       Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted     
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 3C0 951 171 C
       Component: Neigungssensor  004 0611
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No: 3C0 951 171 C
       Component: Innenraumueberw.004 0611
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 47: Sound System (R184)       Labels: 5K0-035-456.clb
       Part No SW: 3AA 035 466     HW: 3AA 035 466 
       Component: KonzernAmp12K H03 6904  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: A1108A00010581
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AudioVerst12KanalSTT1 001001
       ROD: EV_AudioVerst12KanalSTT1.rod
       VCID: 6DDA3B17BC98A22FD7-8038
    
    4 Faults Found:
    9461523 - Front Left Bass Speaker 
              B105F 13 [009] - Open Circuit
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 144
                        Mileage: 106921 km
                        Date: 2017.06.15
                        Time: 12:17:31
    
    9462035 - Front Left Treble Speaker 
              B1061 13 [009] - Open Circuit
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 144
                        Mileage: 106921 km
                        Date: 2017.06.15
                        Time: 12:17:31
    
    9463314 - Rear Left Treble Speaker 
              B1066 12 [009] - Short to Plus
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 144
                        Mileage: 106921 km
                        Date: 2017.06.15
                        Time: 12:17:31
    
    9463826 - Rear Right Treble Speaker 
              B1068 12 [009] - Short to Plus
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 144
                        Mileage: 106921 km
                        Date: 2017.06.15
                        Time: 12:17:31
    
    
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    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels: 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
       Part No SW: 3C8 959 702     HW: 3C0 959 792 C
       Component: TUER-SG BT    002 0502  
       Revision: 14110009    Serial number: 0002020021
       Coding: 0013B6
       Shop #: WSC 05311 115 12345
       ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
       ROD: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X_VW32.rod
       VCID: 6ED83C1BB19E5937EE-803A
    
       Slave Passenger: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C8 959 704 C    HW: 3C0 959 794 B  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
       Component: J389__TSG-HR  004 0401 
       Serial number: 00000001884015      
       Coding: 000210
    
    1 Fault Found:
    66048 - Motor for Front Window Regulator 
              B11EC 54 [009] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 7
                        Fault Frequency: 2
                        Reset counter: 144
                        Mileage: 106921 km
                        Date: 2017.06.15
                        Time: 12:15:06
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 53: Parking Brake        Labels: 3AA-907-801.clb
       Part No SW: 3AA 907 801 J    HW: 3AA 907 801 J
       Component: J540 EPB4  VW-63206 0012  
       Revision:   H19       Serial number: 00000000248887
       Coding: 0022157
       Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00001
       VCID: 3874DA434B5AD787F4-806C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 5M0-907-357-V2.lbl
       Part No SW: 5M0 907 357 C    HW: 5M0 907 357 C
       Component: AFS-Steuergeraet    0136  
       Revision: 00H04000    Serial number:               
       Coding: 2344193
       Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
       VCID: 346CEE73573233E7D8-8060
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 941 329 A  Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
       Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul l    0004  
       Coding: 00000035
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 7L6 941 329 A  Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
       Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul r    0004  
       Coding: 00000035
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio (J0506)       Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
       Part No SW: 1T0 035 686 E    HW: 1T0 035 686 E
       Component: RNS-MID       H30 6276  
       Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7M5270061
       Coding: 04050002010000910000
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 00000
       VCID: 3668D47B814E21F7E6-8062
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 919 859 G
       Component: AUNZ V9  8333 
    
    1 Fault Found:
    02877 - Digital Radio Antenna (R183) 
                011 - Open Circuit
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101011
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 83
                        Reset counter: 144
                        Mileage: 106560 km
                        Time Indication: 0
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 65: Tire Pressure (J502)       Labels: 3AA-907-273.clb
       Part No SW: 3AA 907 273 F    HW: 5Q0 907 273 
       Component: RDKBERU30     H04 0011  
       Serial number: 40000000055443
       ASAM Dataset: EV_RDKBERU30 005005
       ROD: EV_RDKBERU30.rod
       VCID: 3776D97F8E44D8FFFD-8062
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 6C: Back-up Cam.        Labels: 5N0-907-441.clb
       Part No SW: 3C0 907 441     HW: 3C0 907 441 
       Component: J772__Rearview      0042  
       Revision: 00H05000    Serial number:    PA8 J890694
       Coding: 0020007
       Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
       VCID: 5FC651DF8E34C0BF55-800A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 6D: Trunk Elect.        Labels: None
       Part No SW: 3C9 827 383 F    HW: 3C9 827 383 F
       Component: J605  HECKDECKEL    0720  
       Revision: 00H27001    
       Shop #: WSC 05311 000 08193
       VCID: 346CEE73573233E7D8-8060
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3C9 827 384 F
       Component: J756  HECKDECKEL    0720
    
       Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 0800H27001001B0148
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels: 3C8-035-730-A.clb
       Part No SW: 3C8 035 730 E    HW: 3C8 035 730 E
       Component: Telefon       025 0983  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 35502105271202
       Coding: 020000010100110000000001
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVPremi 002709
       ROD: EV_UHVPremi.rod
       VCID: 254A033724E85A6F5F-8070
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 03:33)--------------------------
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    You need to do basic settings to windows. Not with VCDS but manually.

    Procedure :

    Prerequisite :
    Window completely up

    1. Lower the window completely down and keep the window button pressed for about 5 seconds
    2. Raise the window completely up and keep the window button pulled for about 5 seconds

    That's it. Basic setting / calibration done

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    I've tried that a dozen times with no result unfortunately.
    Rear windows will adapt but operate in the wrong direction. Which means comfort function has the rear windows opening when they should be closing...

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