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    Unable to select basic settings for 01 engine or 02 Auto Transmission

    Hi All,
    I've only had my HEX-V2 (3 VIN) and VCDS for 2 days and still not sure if I'm using the software correctly.
    My VCDS is registered, validated and updated and as yet I've not been requested to register one of my VIN.

    I purchased the cable because a friend advised me that I should have done an adaptations reset and TBA
    following a MAF sensor change in February. To be honest the MAF certainly improved the engine performance
    but also made the erratic/inconsistent auto gearshifts more noticeable.

    I initially tried to do the adaptations on the 02 Auto Trans but that box is greyed out, then tried to do the
    adaptations on 01 Engine but only got error messages. I assumed this was due to not having an associated
    label file for the engine and have since sent Ross-Tech my control module map files.
    My next train of thought was to select basic settings for both engine and auto transmission but once again these
    boxes are greyed out.

    Any help or advice would be really appreciated.
    AJ

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    Below is a copy of my latest auto scan results, just a few minor issues but nothing
    engine or auto transmission related except for missing label files. Would these missing
    label files be the root cause of not being able to run adaptations or basic settings?

    Code:
     Friday,09,June,2017,19:22:49:08897
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 17.1.3.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4341.4
    Data version: 20170320 DS267.7
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: WV2ZZZ7HZ5H003795   License Plate: 
    Mileage: 266660km-165694mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: 7H (7H - VW Transporter/Multivan (2003 > 2010))
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0B 0D 15 16 17 18 19 1C 22 2D 37 45 46 47 56
              57 6E 76 77 78 7D
     
    VIN: WV2ZZZ7HZ5H003795   Mileage: 266660km-165694miles
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine        Labels: Redir Fail!
       Part No SW: 070 906 016 K    HW: 028 101 127 1
       Component: R5 2,5L EDC 0000AG  6188  
       Revision: 12345678    Serial number: VWZ7Z0D0078527
       Coding: 0001075
       Shop #: WSC 02756 785 00200
       VCID: 186AC1A55E8187D7F59-513C
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0 0 X X X 
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09G-927-750.clb
       Part No: 09K 927 750 F
       Component: AQ 250 6F           0573  
       Coding: 0000008
       Shop #: WSC 02737 785 00200
       VCID: 382A21253E41A7D7D59-5118
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 7H0-907-37x-ESP-F.lbl
       Part No: 7H0 907 379 H
       Component: ESP FRONT MK25      0202  
       Coding: 0006315
       Shop #: WSC 02756 785 00200
       VCID: 3A2E3B2D004DB5C723D-5118
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: Redir Fail!
       Part No: 7H0 820 045 S
       Component: CLIMA/AC            0202  
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 3534281129535ABFCEF-5118
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533) 
                013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 7H0-937-049.lbl
       Part No: 7H0 937 049 L
       Component: BORDNETZ SGVER 1.0  1901  
       Coding: 0000869
       Shop #: WSC 02760 785 00200
       VCID: 3B203E290F778CCF38B-5118
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
       Part No: 1C0 909 605 F
       Component: 13 AIRBAG VW61 0R0S 0003  
       Coding: 12595
       Shop #: WSC 02756  
       VCID: 2708F259E6FF382F4C3-5118
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 7Hx-920-xxx-17.lbl
       Part No: 7H5 920 960 E
       Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V02  
       Coding: 05412
       Shop #: WSC 00001  
       VCID: 333016092227448FE0B-5118
       WV2ZZZ7HZ5H003795     VWZ7Z0D0078527
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 18: Aux. Heat        Labels: 7H0-819-008.lbl
       Part No: 7H0 815 071 B
       Component: Standheizung        0128  
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 2708F259E3FF382F4C3-5118
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
       Part No: 6N0 909 901 
       Component: Gateway K<->CAN    0001  
       Coding: 00006
       Shop #: WSC 02737  
       VCID: 70BAD90513B13F97DD9-5118
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 45: Inter. Monitor        Labels: 7Hx-951-171.lbl
       Part No: 7H5 951 171 A
       Component: Innenraumueberw.    2409  
       Coding: 0000012
       Shop #: WSC 00976 210 17027
       VCID: 2D040071C103127FB6F-5184
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7H0 951 171 A
       Component: Innenraumueberw.    1506
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 7H0-959-433.lbl
       Part No: 7H0 959 433 B
       Component: C   Komfortgerát     0004  
       Coding: 00078
       Shop #: WSC 02756  
       VCID: 323E130DDD3D4D87EBD-4AE0
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7H2959802A
       Component: Tőrsteuer.FS KLO 0203  
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 7H2959801A
       Component: Tőrsteuer.BF KLO 0203  
    
    2 Faults Found:
    01134 - Alarm Horn (H12) 
                49-00 - No Communications
    01135 - Interior Monitoring Sensors 
                36-10 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 76: Park Assist        Labels: 7E0-919-283.lbl
       Part No: 7E0 919 283 
       Component: Parkingsyst. T5 T5M 801  
       Coding: 01127
       Shop #: WSC 02771  
       VCID: 6C82CD753F99DB77E11-5118
    
    2 Faults Found:
    01545 - Sensor for Parking Aid; Rear Left (G203) 
                31-10 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
    01546 - Sensor for Parking Aid; Rear Mid-Left (G204) 
                31-00 - Open or Short to Ground
    
    End----------(Elapsed Time: 08:04, VBatt start/end: 12.6V/12.5V)-----------

    Code:
    Chassis Type: 7H (7H - VW Transporter/Multivan (2003 > 2010))
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0B 0D 15 16 17 18 19 1C 22 2D 37 45 46 47 56
              57 6E 76 77 78 7D
     
    VIN: WV2ZZZ7HZ5H003795   Mileage: 266660km-165694miles
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine        Labels: REDIR FAIL!
       Part No SW: 070 906 016 K    HW: 028 101 127 1
       Component: R5 2,5L EDC 0000AG  6188  
       Revision: 12345678    Serial number: VWZ7Z0D0078527
       Coding: 0001075
       Shop #: WSC 02756 785 00200
       VCID: 186AC1A55E8187D7F59-513C
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0 0 X X X 
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09G-927-750.CLB
       Part No: 09K 927 750 F
       Component: AQ 250 6F           0573  
       Coding: 0000008
       Shop #: WSC 02737 785 00200
       VCID: 382A21253E41A7D7D59-5118
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 7H0-907-37X-ESP-F.LBL
       Part No: 7H0 907 379 H
       Component: ESP FRONT MK25      0202  
       Coding: 0006315
       Shop #: WSC 02756 785 00200
       VCID: 3A2E3B2D004DB5C723D-5118
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: REDIR FAIL!
       Part No: 7H0 820 045 S
       Component: CLIMA/AC            0202  
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 3534281129535ABFCEF-5118
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533) 
                013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 7H0-937-049.LBL
       Part No: 7H0 937 049 L
       Component: BORDNETZ SGVER 1.0  1901  
       Coding: 0000869
       Shop #: WSC 02760 785 00200
       VCID: 3B203E290F778CCF38B-50F4
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.LBL
       Part No: 1C0 909 605 F
       Component: 13 AIRBAG VW61 0R0S 0003  
       Coding: 12595
       Shop #: WSC 02756  
       VCID: 2708F259E6FF382F4C3-5118
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 7HX-920-XXX-17.LBL
       Part No: 7H5 920 960 E
       Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V02  
       Coding: 05412
       Shop #: WSC 00001  
       VCID: 333016092227448FE0B-5118
       WV2ZZZ7HZ5H003795     VWZ7Z0D0078527
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 18: Aux. Heat        Labels: 7H0-819-008.LBL
       Part No: 7H0 815 071 B
       Component: Standheizung        0128  
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 2708F259E3FF382F4C3-5118
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.LBL
       Part No: 6N0 909 901 
       Component: Gateway K<->CAN    0001  
       Coding: 00006
       Shop #: WSC 02737  
       VCID: 70BAD90513B13F97DD9-5118
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 45: Inter. Monitor        Labels: 7HX-951-171.LBL
       Part No: 7H5 951 171 A
       Component: Innenraumueberw.    2409  
       Coding: 0000012
       Shop #: WSC 00976 210 17027
       VCID: 2D040071C103127FB6F-5184
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7H0 951 171 A
       Component: Innenraumueberw.    1506
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 7H0-959-433.LBL
       Part No: 7H0 959 433 B
       Component: C   Komfortgerát     0004  
       Coding: 00078
       Shop #: WSC 02756  
       VCID: 323E130DDD3D4D87EBD-4AE0
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7H2959802A
       Component: Tőrsteuer.FS KLO 0203  
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 7H2959801A
       Component: Tőrsteuer.BF KLO 0203  
    
    2 Faults Found:
    01134 - Alarm Horn (H12) 
                49-00 - No Communications
    01135 - Interior Monitoring Sensors 
                36-10 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 76: Park Assist        Labels: 7E0-919-283.LBL
       Part No: 7E0 919 283 
       Component: Parkingsyst. T5 T5M 801  
       Coding: 01127
       Shop #: WSC 02771  
       VCID: 6C82CD753F99DB77E11-5118
    
    2 Faults Found:
    01545 - Sensor for Parking Aid; Rear Left (G203) 
                31-10 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
    01546 - Sensor for Parking Aid; Rear Mid-Left (G204) 
                31-00 - Open or Short to Ground
    
    End------(Elapsed Time: 17:20, VBatt start/end: 12.5V/12.4V, Deb=2)--------
    Last edited by Uwe; 06-09-2017 at 03:41 PM. Reason: CODE tags

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    Quote Originally Posted by AJKlmnop View Post
    Hi All,
    I've only had my HEX-V2 (3 VIN) and VCDS for 2 days and still not sure if I'm using the software correctly.
    My VCDS is registered, validated and updated and as yet I've not been requested to register one of my VIN.

    I purchased the cable because a friend advised me that I should have done an adaptations reset and TBA
    following a MAF sensor change in February. To be honest the MAF certainly improved the engine performance
    but also made the erratic/inconsistent auto gearshifts more noticeable.

    I initially tried to do the adaptations on the 02 Auto Trans but that box is greyed out, then tried to do the
    adaptations on 01 Engine but only got error messages. I assumed this was due to not having an associated
    label file for the engine and have since sent Ross-Tech my control module map files.
    My next train of thought was to select basic settings for both engine and auto transmission but once again these
    boxes are greyed out.

    Any help or advice would be really appreciated.
    AJ
    Your friend wants you to do a TAB on a diesel engine, eh?

    Lack of a label file won't prevent you from doing the things that the ECU is capable of doing, but that 2005 diesel doesn't have a throttle in the traditional sense.

    There are definitely some basic settings available in your engine. Are you trying to go from Measuring Blocks directly to Basic Settings? That doesn't work with the KWP-2000 protocol your ECU uses. You must go to directly Basic Settings from this screen:



    Your ECU does support Basic Settings for EGR and Boost Pressure Regulation, but I wouldn't advise running them willy-nilly. In fact, the Basic Settings page of the VCDS Manual warns:

    Warnings:

    • You should refer to the Factory Repair Manual for your particular car (or some other documented procedure) before "playing" with the ]Basic Settings function. Failure to follow the proper procedures can result in serious damage to the vehicle.
    • Although you can use the [Up] and [Dn] buttons to scroll through the available groups just like on the Measuring Blocks screen, this is probably not a good idea since you may put the Controller into Basic Settings for a Group that you did not intend.
    As for your transmission shifting erratically, at 165,000 miles it doesn't really owe you much. When was the last time it had a fluid change? Basic Settings in it are documented. It's a two-step process. Group 001 first, then Group 002.

    -Uwe-
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    Thanks Uwe,
    My mate definitely recommended an adaptations reset and a "TBA check would'nt hurt".
    I must admit that I have been trying to select basic settings from the measuring blocks directly
    as this method was detailed on the Ross Tech website for KWP-2000 protocol and applies to my
    vehicle. I'll try selecting basic settings 04 tomorrow as its rather late here in UK now. My intention
    is to apply basic stock settings as I'm not a fan of overclocking or "playing" with boost pressure/EGR
    settings.
    Thanks again for your help and rapid reply and I apologise for my lack of knowledge in this field, this
    is not my area of expertise but it intrigues me none the less.

    BTW, automatic transmission fluid and filter was been changed 8 months ago and again 2 months /3000 miles later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AJKlmnop View Post
    I must admit that I have been trying to select basic settings from the measuring blocks directly
    as this method was detailed on the Ross Tech website for KWP-2000 protocol and applies to my
    vehicle.
    Have you got a link to the page where it suggests doing it that way on KWP-2000? 'Cause I don't see it.

    Quote Originally Posted by AJKlmnop View Post
    BTW, automatic transmission fluid and filter was been changed 8 months ago and again 2 months /3000 miles later.
    Good. On many automatics, VW claims it's not necessary to change the fluid and that it's a "lifetime fill". What they don't tell you is that the lifetime of the trans will generally be longer with regular fluid changes.

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    I stand corrected, I've been trying to use the wrong procedure for my drive
    by wire Caravelle. Correct procedure below.


    Drive-by-Wire (DBW) Engines using KWP-2000 or CAN
    (These are engines WITHOUT a physical cable between the accelerator and the throttle. Check to see if the engine speaks KWP-2000 or CAN by looking in the top left of the Open Controller Screen. An example of a KWP-2000 engine controller is the 2002+ B6 Audi A4 1.8T. Some examples of CAN engine controllers are the Mk5 Golf 2.0T FSI)

    Turn the key on but do not start the car.
    [Select]
    [01 - Engine]
    [Basic Settings - 04]
    Group 060
    [Go!]
    It should say "Basic Settings: OFF" on the top of your screen.
    Click [ON/OFF/Next] to turn on Basic Settings.
    It should now say "Basic Settings: ON" on the top of your screen. Once you do this you will see the top right display say ADP RUN. The TB adaptation is being done as soon as you switched basic settings on. You will see the values change and hear the TB cycle for the first few seconds then it will stop. Leave it in Basic Settings for about 30 seconds.
    Click [ON/OFF/Next] to turn off Basic Settings.
    It should now say "Basic Settings: OFF" on the top of your screen
    Click the [Done, Go Back] button and you're all set.
    Be sure not to touch the accelerator and make sure the engine is NOT running when you do this!

    If it did not complete, or resulted in Error, see the Special Notes below.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AJKlmnop View Post
    I stand corrected, I've been trying to use the wrong procedure for my drive
    by wire Caravelle. Correct procedure below.


    Drive-by-Wire (DBW) Engines using KWP-2000 or CAN
    Right.

    But keep in mind, this is for Petrol engines and is not applicable to any diesel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
    But keep in mind, this is for Petrol engines and is not applicable to any diesel.
    Because diesel engines don't have a throttle body... their "performance" is controlled by the amount and timing of fuel injected not by throttling the passage of air into the engine.

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    Thanks guys, as I said "not my area of expertise".
    The internet and VCDS has certainly enlightened me to diesel technology over the last few days.
    Hopefully I'll get a chance to try your recommendations tomorrow.
    In the meantime, I'm off to see the Undertones play at a local music festival.
    Thanks again.
    AJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by PetrolDave View Post
    Because diesel engines don't have a throttle body... their "performance" is controlled by the amount and timing of fuel injected not by throttling the passage of air into the engine.
    Late-model diesels actually do have air-throttling capabilities. They need this to prevent excessive amounts of air in the combustion chamber (which is replaced by recirculated exhaust gasses) in order to limit NOx formation.

    But they still don't do a TBA using Basic Settings Group 060 like the older petrol engines did.

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