VW Tiguan TDI MAF code P0104

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Hello all,

I've had a problem since buying my car last year, it usually hesitates from cold at about 1500rpm when the ambient temp is about 15 deg c. This occasionally throws a MAF error code P0104 but not always. I know when it's about to hesitate as the car is very sluggish when initially pulling away. This usually clears after the inital get away.

I've sent Ross Tech support MAF logs, they say the readings seem a little low which could point to a restricted intake or exhaust and also say there is a TPI for a software update which suggests a fix for a possible 'judder after cold start' scenario. They say a trip to the dealer for a software update could fix it which would be fixed during the update for the emissions anyway but I won't be doing that as I want to remap the car once I've sorted this problem.

I've changed the fuel filter September last year as I thought it could be this and for about 10 days the car ran much better throughout the rev range. After 10 days the car seemed to lose some power and struggle to get away from a standing start without more revs applied, I've been having this problem too so may be this and the error code could be related?

The air filter was changed August last year. I've also changed the MAF sensor last month for the exact same Bosch item but still no change.

Any help much appreciated before I push the car over a cliff.

Thanks
Dave (UK)
 
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Please post an auto-scan.........and JPPSG in the sticky of this forum.

Check fuses & or overlay wiring from MAF to controller for test using WD and verify no crossed tracks.
 
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Thanks for the reply.

I have an auto scan but what is JPPSG and WD?

Thanks
 
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Code: 
Saturday,22,April,2017,17:33:57:47908
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 16.8.4.2 (x64)
Data version: 20161129 DS267.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVGZZZ5NZBW122984   License Plate: 
Mileage: 89310km-55494mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 5N (7N0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 22 25 2E 42 44 46 52 53 56 62 69
          72 77

VIN: WVGZZZ5NZBW122984   Mileage: 89310km-55494miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CFFB)       Labels: 03L-906-018-CFF.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 906 018 ET    HW: 03L 907 309 R
   Component: R4 2,0L EDC   H23 8213  
   Revision: 42H23---    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 00190012042700080000
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018ET 003009
   ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018ET.rod
   VCID: 000E00939BB82742C9-8054

1 Fault Found:
10065 - Mass Air Flow Sensor (G70) 
          P0104 00 [040] - Intermittent
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 88764 km
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:00:00

                    Engine speed: 0.00 /min
                    Normed load value: 0.0 %
                    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 18 C
                    Intake air temperature: 16 C
                    Ambient air pressure: 1010 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 11.040 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 14
                    Throttle valve adapter: specified value: 100.00 %
                    EGR solenoid valve: actual value: 100.00 %
                    Charge air pressure specified value: 1025 hPa
                    Charge Pressure Actuator: acknowledgment: 16.42 %
                    Air mass: specified value: 483.0 mg/stroke
                    Air mass: actual value (mg/stroke): 0.0 mg/stroke

Readiness: 0 1 0 0 0 

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 5N0-614-109-C4.clb
   Part No SW: 5N0 614 109 Q    HW: 5N0 614 109 Q
   Component: J104    C4 450 V272 0006  
   Revision: --H28---    Serial number: 00000004187950
   Coding: 0014636
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
   VCID: 3978AD7770E2B68ACE-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 5K0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 907 044 DT    HW: 5K0 907 044 DT
   Component: Climatronic   H17 1010  
   Revision: 00001003    
   Coding: 0000000002
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01010
   ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_VW36.rod
   VCID: 000E00939BB82742C9-8054

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 937 086 J    HW: 5K0 937 086 J
   Component: BCM PQ35 M    011 0048  
   Revision: BC011001    
   Coding: 48180A3B8825F1C0400800809000012443013088524D81605C8000000040
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
   VCID: 3B74B77FBADE849ADC-806E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5N2 955 119     HW:              Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 07051  013 0203 
   Serial number:   N2955119   203!
   Coding: 009F95

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0104 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K8 951 605 B
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H11 9005 
   Coding: 000000

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J791)       Labels: 1T0-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 919 475 P    HW: 3T0 919 475 C
   Component: PARKHILFE PLA H08 0116  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 13991112373116
   Coding: 119003
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
   VCID: 489ED8B3FB08DF0241-801C

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 5N0-959-655.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 959 655 R    HW: 5N0 959 655 R
   Component: J234__201 VW10 HI   1918  
   Revision: 22014000    Serial number: 003K0P99SQTK  
   Coding: 0012337
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
   VCID: 4C96E4A32F70332265-8018

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MTS618531011 

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MTS616241021 

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6351HTS60SFR0AKJ 

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6361HTS6T64R0AKJ 

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 00000000000000000

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 00000000000000000

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 5K0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 521 BN    HW: 5K0 953 569 E
   Component: LENKS.MODUL   014 0140  
   Revision: FF010040    Serial number: 20110418100751
   Coding: 1082140000
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSXS A01004
   ROD: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSXS.rod
   VCID: 79F86D77F862768A8E-802C

   Multifunction steering wheel control module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542 A    HW: 5K0 959 542 A  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-TAS  H07 0013 
   Coding: 820000

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 5N0 920 972 A    HW: 5N0 920 972 A
   Component: KOMBI         H20 0420  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 410F01
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04089
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW25.rod
   VCID: 3168955760927ECA76-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 C    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: J533  Gateway H37 0614  
   Revision:   H37       Serial number: 180511F2001754
   Coding: 356003
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
   VCID: 306E9053639877C279-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 22: AWD        Labels: 0AY-907-554-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 0AY 907 554 D    HW: 0AY 907 554 D
   Component: Haldex 4Motion      0042  
   Coding: 0000005
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 4C96E4A32F70332265-8018

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H20 0420  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03008
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
   VCID: 6ADA423B8DC4CD1277-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels: 5N0-035-342.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 D    HW: 5N0 035 342 D
   Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H13 0150  
   Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7669955070    
   Coding: 010000
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
   VCID: 285E78335B483F02A1-807C

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 959 701 D    HW: 5N0 959 701 D
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2112  
   Coding: 0000700
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
   VCID: 3662A64B41FC59F223-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
   Part No: 5N0 909 144 M
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 202    3201  
   Revision: 00H20000    
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 3B74B77F7ADE849ADC-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 959 702 D    HW: 5N0 959 702 D
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2112  
   Coding: 0000700
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
   VCID: 377CAB4F46F6A0FA38-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake        Labels: 3AA-907-801.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 907 801 E    HW: 3AA 907 801 E
   Component: J540 EPB4  VW-55183 0007  
   Revision:   H18       Serial number: 00000000351683
   Coding: 0023057
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
   VCID: 33649F5F528E4CDA04-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J0503)       Labels: 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 3C8 035 195 A    HW: 3C8 035 195 A
   Component: Radio RCD510  041 0166  
   Revision: 00000001    Serial number: VWZ1Z3L0748996
   Coding: 0100040004
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
   VCID: 2642760B515C297293-8072

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 959 703 D    HW: 5N0 959 703 D
   Component: Tuer-SG         007 2102  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 1012552
   VCID: 387EA8734BE8AF8231-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 69: Trailer (J345)       Labels: 1K0-907-383-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 383 F    HW: 1K0 907 383 F
   Component: Anhaenger     H12 0100  
   Revision: 3A001001    Serial number: 00000396665193
   Coding: 0100000100000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 306E9053639877C279-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 959 704 D    HW: 5N0 959 704 D
   Component: Tuer-SG         007 2102  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 1012552
   VCID: 3978AD7770E2B68ACE-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels: 7P6-035-730.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 035 730 B    HW: 5K0 035 730 B
   Component: TELEFON       H09 1020  
   Revision: 1B001001    Serial number: 00007660010536
   Coding: 0A01000000010101
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
   ASAM Dataset: UHVNA A01009
   ROD: UHVNA.rod
   VCID: 24466C032F60DB628D-8070

No fault code found.

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Ok I just read up on JPPSG but still unsure what WD is?
 
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WD = wiring diagram.

Sorry for the questions, 1st time using this forum.
 
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It seems I've fallen at the first fence - logged into Erwin to download wiring diagrams and there are none listed for my vehicle. How do I get hold of them?
 
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Nope they are there for CFFB try again..........and use the elsa-web extended session completed
 
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Elsa-web extended session? I don't know what this means, I'm reluctant to spend more money on another hour flat rate if I don't know where to look.
 
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No. I clicked 'Individual Vehicle Information' and then 'Repair Information'. Just logged back on and can't see anything related to Elsa. I take it this is the correct website? - https://erwin.volkswagen.de/erwin/showHome.do
 
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