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    Quote Originally Posted by D-Dub View Post
    4th!

    While I agree that being able to freely search for and identify parts and associated information necessary to making a purchase of said parts should be free, I would also like to submit another potential similar example of VW's business process;

    Some companies used to have catalogs that you had to pay for (the catalog itself), before you could buy any of the items within the catalog.

    I can't remember what specific company(s) used to do it, or if they are even still in business (hah probably not).

    Likewise, I think there are also websites, that you must be a paid member, before you can utilize said website to order stuff from said website.

    So, paying something just to get access to pay for something more, is well I guess part of that whole free market economy.

    Of course as they say, information wants to be free.

    D-dub: If I can respectfully add a point of distinction to your example - an important difference between VW's "Strip-club" model and your webpage analogy is informed-consent (IMO).

    Allow me to explain, the requirement that money be paid to a webpage service (as you describe) is primary to the business of the webpage seller and the buyer. Anyone wanting to use this service knows the condition of sale from the outset - and I suspect that the act of agreeing to pay a fee to enter the site is made with full knowledge of the cost of doing so - against the inherent value of using the site - before agreeing to use the primary purpose for the service.

    However, the "strip-club" model is importantly different when applied to the VW's spare parts service: in this case, the sale process is secondary to the primary act of purchasing the vehicle. Once the car is bought, the prospective spare parts purchaser is captured as the service is a necessary adjunct (for DIY VW owners) of the need to occasionally repair the vehicle. With minor exceptions, the hapless private DIY-er has no other option when sourcing a genuine spare part.

    Now I'm certain that most folk that use this forum are well aware of how the VW spare parts model works, but I don't believe that this constitutes informed consent to the great-unwashed proletariat (example - me!) that buys VW vehicles.

    My thesis is that in the case of the "strip-club" model this does NOT constitute informed consent - but rather it is a rudimentary form of "commercial-ransom' (yes, this analogy is perhaps a tad harsh - but it is nevertheless not-inappropriate IMO)

    So, don't get me wrong - would I not have purchased my Golf if I had known about this extortionist practice? Probably not, but this doesn't in any way justify the practice (IMO)

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    D-dub: If I can respectfully add a point of distinction to your example - an important difference between VW's "Strip-club" model and your webpage analogy is informed-consent (IMO).

    Allow me to explain, the requirement that money be paid to a webpage service (as you describe) is primary to the business of the webpage seller and the buyer. Anyone wanting to use this service knows the condition of sale from the outset - and I suspect that the act of agreeing to pay a fee to enter the site is made with full knowledge of the cost of doing so - against the inherent value of using the site - before agreeing to use the primary purpose for the service.

    However, the "strip-club" model is importantly different when applied to the VW's spare parts service: in this case the sale process is secondary to the primary act of purchasing the vehicle. The prospective purchaser is captured and the spare parts service is a necessary adjunct (for DIY VW owners) of the need to occasionally repair the vehicle. With minor exceptions, the hapless private DIY-er has no other option when sourcing a genuine spare part.

    Now I'm certain that most folk that use this forum are well aware of how the VW spare parts model works, but I don't believe that this constitutes informed consent to the great-unwashed proletariat that buys VW vehicles.

    My thesis is that in the case of the "strip-club" model this does NOT constitute informed consent - but rather it is a form of "commercial-ransom'!

    Don
    Meh .........

    The courts here decided a long time ago that a manufacturer part #s ..........are in fact copy written material when used to ref their IP or cataloging system that is proprietary to their successful business model.

    That is why parts houses use their own part #s and have been successfully sued when they do use them without permission or paid for under contract.

    How are you captured if the part number is stamped on every piece?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack@European_Parts View Post
    How are you captured if the part number is stamped on every piece?
    Because more times than not these days, the original part number has been superseded several times. So even if you can find a part with the original number, you're not getting the correct, latest & greatest part. And you know bloody well that if the original is 123-456-789-A, that there's a good chance that 123-456-789-B is totally inappropriate to use, that the actual of superseded version of -A might very well be -H, and the one after that might be -BC. Thus access to the current parts catalog is pretty much a must for anyone doing workmanlike repairs.

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    Because more times than not these days, the original part number has been superseded several times. So even if you can find a part with the original number, you're not getting the correct, latest & greatest part. And you know bloody well that if the original is 123-456-789-A, that there's a good chance that 123-456-789-B is totally inappropriate to use, that the actual of superseded version of -A might very well be -H, and the one after that might be -BC. Thus access to the current parts catalog is pretty much a must for anyone doing workmanlike repairs.

    -Uwe-
    Yes, however, doesn't a parts guy at any franchise do that for you for free, when you request it and documentation to support it & is required to do it as part of their franchise agreement.

    Just because a part # is superseded doesn't mean it is always better or a revision..........not a good assumption.
    It may just in fact be a different contract supplier to the OEM.

    Just playing devils advocate............
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack@European_Parts View Post
    Meh .........

    The courts here decided a long time ago that a manufacturer part #s ..........are in fact copy written material when used to ref their IP or cataloging system that is proprietary to their successful business model.

    That is why parts houses use their own part #s and have been successfully sued when they do use them without permission or paid for under contract.

    How are you captured if the part number is stamped on every piece?
    Jack: I respect your knowledge and experience in these matters - but (with respect), you need to understand the plight of the "little-people". I like to know this information before I spend time stripping the car apart - and often, I prefer to actually have the replacement component in my hands before I start the job. Also, for folk that want to upgrade their components, identifying the existing component number isn't useful!

    However, being able to see a part number on an existing component isn't really what 's at issue here - the real problem is the business ethics behind the "strip club model (IMO)

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    Jack: I respect your knowledge and experience in these matters - but (with respect), you need to understand the plight of the "little-people". I like to know this information before I spend time stripping the car apart - and often, I prefer to actually have the replacement component in my hands before I start the job. Also, for folk that want to upgrade their components, identifying the existing component number isn't useful!

    However, being able to see a part number on an existing component isn't really what 's at issue here - the real problem is the business ethics behind the "strip club model (IMO)

    Don
    Identifying the original part in a car is absolutely useful because it could be "wrong" and it should always be authenticated to be correct to begin with before checking if something just supersedes.

    What people really need to do is adhere to a strict process such as the JPPSG & when doing upgrades or just swapping shit around.

    I see all too often people trying to install the wrong parts using the methods you site...........FAIL!

    Here is a recent example..........and he used a pirated VCDS cable go figure and one of these hacked EPC etka online things.

    Now this asshole wanted to install 07K-906-055Q and in his scan below he has 07K-906-032BJ

    Just do a Google search why comparing pictures of the controller.........okay your turn Don!






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    Friday,21,April,2017,17:21:37:62939
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
    VCDS Version: Release 12.12.0 (x64)
    Data version: 20130910
    
    
    
    
    VIN: 3VWRM71K88MXXXXXX   License Plate: FSN4069
    Mileage: 136810km-85009mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
    
    
    
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    Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0F 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 65 72
    
    
    VIN: 3VWRM71K88MXXXXXXX   Mileage: 136810km/85009miles
    
    
    01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    0F-Digital Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: Sporadic communication error 1000
    65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: Sporadic communication error 1000
    
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    Address 01: Engine (CBT)       Labels: 06A-906-032-BGP.lbl
       Part No SW: 07K 906 032 BJ    HW: 07K 906 032 Q
       Component: 2,5l R5/4V      G   1567  
       Revision: 1NH01---    Serial number: VWX7Z0G924F1E2
       Coding: 0000003
       Shop #: WSC 65728 1018 854933
       VCID: 72EB3C436D5AFA8E927-8027
    
    
    
    
    
    Sincerely,
    
    
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    -----Original Message-----
    From: European Parts / Immobilizer Solutions <vwemporium@aol.com>
    To: eric.XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXvwemporium <vwemporium@aol.com>
    Sent: Fri, Apr 21, 2017 11:28 pm
    Subject: Re: Immobilizer
    
    Eric,
    
    
    I think I am going to pass on this because this car doesn't qualify for a VIN transfer, further being modified & you haven't done your homework properly for such a conversion......the data is inconsistent!
    
    The only thing I can offer is an off road unit" stock" for this config for the race track & no VIN.
    
    
    Meh......Not interested in working on your wrong speculated used supplied equipment.
    
    
    The engine part # 07K-906-055Q you supplied for this request & quoted is not compatible with your emissions tier for VIN break or vehicle..........
    
    
    Now if you want to pay for consultation to research your equipment submitted and prepaid that is another story.
    
    
    
    Please let me know and be glad I didn't make you prepay to only deny you for failure to do your research like others do!
    
    
    I do have a conscience...........
    
    
    Best,
    
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    -----Original Message-----
    From: Eric XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
    To: European Parts / Immobilizer Solutions <vwemporium@aol.com>
    Sent: Fri, Apr 21, 2017 9:38 pm
    Subject: Re: Immobilizer
    
    Jack,
    
    Here is the information you requested. I have attached an image of my PR-Build tag and VCDS Auto-Scan.
    
    
    As far as modifications, I have a custom intake and aftermarket catback. The intake is all spectre parts, including the plastic and silicone connectors, and the filter. The MAF is in its original OEM housing right after the filter. The catback is AWE Tuning's Mk5 Jetta performance exhaust, track edition.
    
    
    I have a tune on my ECU, but I will be reverting it back to stock to swap the ECU's.
    
    
    The problem I have is with my most recent modification. I swapped out my automatic 09g for a standard 02q. I purchased the parts for the swap and the trans from Darkside Developments. I can give you the details on the swap if necessary, but I have already identified my problem as an ECU compatibility issue. The ECUs for standard Volkswagens come with different software than those with an automatic. Others who have done the same swap on their Mk5 VW's have had to purchase an ECU flashed for a standard in order to get rid of the error codes. I had no prior error codes before the swap, and the error codes I have now are related to the TCU and missing auto trans. One of them is "Cold Start Idle Air Control System P050A", but this is more recent and is most likely a separate issue. I will be looking into it.
    
    
    I know my charging system and battery work, as my car will start up fine. Just to be safe, I looked at my fuses and they are all fine. I think that's as far as it goes for your JPPSG.
    
    
    You are able to provide a remanufactured ECU for as little as $1050. Would I be able to provide my own 07K-906-055Q, in used condition, for you to code the 4-pin code and VIN? Does providing my own incur any extra service fees?
    
    
    Eric
    
     
    
    
    On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 3:57 PM, European Parts / Immobilizer Solutions <vwemporium@aol.com> wrote:
    
    Hello Eric, JPPSG data is required to commence and letter of record from the EPA administrator granting permission to do your swap after config is authenticated for emissions tier compliance.
    • I need it to be an on road vehicle as it is my daily driver.
    • You mentioned that you have stock ECU's available, what am I looking at for part #07K 906 055Q?
    Part No: 07K-906-055Q Thank you for the inquiry Reman Unit $1000.00 + $50.00 Shipping (USPS Priority Mail 2- 3 Days) + $100.00 Shipping (USPS Priority Express Mail 1-2 Days) New Unit $1500.00 + $50.00 Shipping (USPS Priority Mail 2- 3 Days) + $100.00 Shipping (USPS Priority Express Mail 1-2 Days Please provide the data. Best, Jack Shapiro E.P.E. VAS>Geko ASE Extern 7076062 NYS DMV SAE>NASTF European Parts Emporium Immobilizer Solutions 1001 State Route 17K Montgomery New York 12549 USA vwemporium@aol.com 845-457-9808 TEL/FAX 845-784-0335 Net -----Original Message----- From: Eric XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX To: European Parts <vwemporium@aol.com> Sent: Fri, Apr 21, 2017 4:01 pm Subject: Re: Immobilizer Hello Jack, I am trying to figure out my options for the ECU swap.
    • I need it to be an on road vehicle as it is my daily driver.
    • You mentioned that you have stock ECU's available, what am I looking at for part #07K 906 055Q?
    • Am I able to provide the ECU to have my immobilizer data transferred to?
    • From what I understand, I'll need to send you the ECU I have now, my instrument cluster, and my keys to complete the swap, yes?
    • Lastly, can I get a quote on the swap?
    Thanks, Eric On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 3:26 PM, European Parts <vwemporium@aol.com> wrote:
    Hello Eric, Attached is the conformity EPA certificate application and COC, which shows that this car may be converted under the same applications rules for a Stick manual or Automatic transmission. https://iaspub.epa.gov/otaqpub/publist2.jsp?docid=18501 We can help with this for an off road controller or on road being stock as described in the application. Off road units can not have a VIN and there are modified units available fitting that criteria. There are also new stock factory units, which we can absolutely transfer your immobilizer on. Best, Jack Shapiro E.P.E. VAS>Geko ASE Extern 7076062 NYS DMV SAE>NASTF European Parts Emporium Immobilizer Solutions 1001 State Route 17K Montgomery New York 12549 USA vwemporium@aol.com 845-457-9808 TEL/FAX 845-784-0335 Net -----Original Message----- From: European Parts <vwemporium@aol.com> To: eric.XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXvwemporium <vwemporium@aol.com> Sent: Sun, Mar 19, 2017 10:14 pm Subject: Re: Immobilizer Hello Eric, Is this for off road use or public highway use? You will in fact lose your tune for your ecu currently. Off road equipment is possible and No VIN is permitted and the Immobilizer is shut off to comply with off road conformity. What part # are you looking for? Please see all below for what I require and how I do stuff if it applies to you. In your case you will need a proper stock controller and an off road race controller for competition. ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::" ECM CORES ARE REQUIRED TO BE SENT IN ADVANCE ":::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Please see address below to send in core. DATA TRANSFER OFFERED FOR FREE - Plug & Play with most controllers we sell. Special note to the lazy...... In regards to, "all" high security work, "repair", "warranty" or "quotes" for parts.......This is not meant or directed at anyone and is a generalization. The "Ultimate" rule of this company and to maintain fairness: Failure to maintain a proper paper trail with continuity for the following, "Improper payments", to "alter", or "truncate" an email/documentation, creating a"forged instrument", or disrupting the chain........ is forbidden! Doing this will result in immediate termination of communications, and we will not help you! Don't lie to me! What I am saying here is don't lie to me in general, no one is being called a liar until I catch them. I can only help people that allow me to do it by using the JPPSG system below. We accept a few different payment methods for control units. Please also see services below. A. United States Postal Service Money order ( ONLY ) is my preferred payment method payable to ( Jack Shapiro ) or B. Paypal, paid to this email address ( vwemporium@aol.com ) only, confirmed identity, and shipping identities. http://www.paypal.com/ We are also happy to send a paypal request to you, however, you must provide your paypal data in order to do so. C. Western Union with MTCN and all fees to be paid by you, payable to ( Jack Shapiro ). NOTE FOR THIRD PARTY PAYMENTS & UNCONFIRMED SHIPPING LOCATIONS. Option A or C ........are the only accepted payment terms, if you request us to ship to alternate address, or areas outside the USA where no insurability is possible.....! Attention people with tuned or altered SMOG controllers! All aftermarket tuning or computer improvement requests are Illegal, whether for identity transfer, or for public road highway use! This can not be used on a public highway, unless you provide a valid exemption, by means of the EPA, and or CARB certificate, further that can be authenticated to be in compliance for conformity! There can be no requests for identity writing of a VIN # or Immobilizer information for these vehicle's, and they must display in controllers EEPROM, that the unit is for OFF ROAD USE! For this reason, we recommend a second controller that is not swappable for the Competition, or Off Road Race sanctioned events. NO Exceptions! Anything said to the contrary would be a gross misrepresentation. Please see this link for a better understanding. https://www.epa.gov/enforcement/air-enforcement#engines Cars can be converted to a real race car, for the race track or sanctioned competition off road events, emission devices are not permitted to be removed, even for off road racing. Please see link here: https://www3.epa.gov/otaq/regs/nonroad/2002/f02045.pdf
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Good Information Guideline. 1 Focus discussion on symptom description! 2 Ask questions that clarify what, when, where, & frequency. 3 Summarize your understanding & get agreement from colleagues. 4 Explain what you will do to proceed, & get my acknowledgement. 5 Do you have a proper repair manual? If not get one! www.erwin.vw.com or www.erwin.audi.com 6 Do you know how to read a schematic? If not see "How to read WD section in...... RTFB! " 7 Check part numbers are accurate, & firmware versions of OEM scanner----VCDS + respective controllers are of latest firmware release. 8 Did you check CHARGING SYSTEM HEALTH, BATTERY & FUSES "YET"? Diagnosing, Brain storming, & the Final Solution! 1 Describe problem ( List known symptoms ) Nix opinions or disguised solutions 2 Verify & Analyze ( Duplicate if possible, & list possible causes...... RTFB! the trouble tree, TSB's & for FOD is an MIL ON or pending? Further..... FOD for hardware, & or electronically modified firmware/software/emissions defeat/delete devices is essential now...... "do not negate this"! Look for any discrepancies in codification when compared to other modules. Actually review Time Stamps Miles and the information made available in a DTC, ......such as a G or N destinations and use as a search criteria in WD for familiarization! 3 Locate the problem ( Prioritize and identify work times + safety limits, or the use of chemicals & tool requirements ) 4 Repair the Problem ( Determine the cause & not just treat an effect! ) 5 Conduct a quality Check of your work and verify you fixed it! IF ANY OF THE ABOVE IS TOO MUCH TO COMPLY WITH, YOU SHOULD CONSIDER SEEKING A PROFESSIONAL SHOP VISIT. Jack Shapiro E.P.E. VAS>Geko ASE Extern 7076062 NYS DMV SAE>NASTF European Parts Emporium Immobilizer Solutions 1001 State Route 17K Montgomery New York 12549 USA vwemporium@aol.com 845-457-9808 TEL/FAX 845-784-0335 Net -----Original Message----- From: Contact Form <contact-form@europeanpartsemporium.com> To: vwemporium <vwemporium@aol.com> Sent: Sun, Mar 19, 2017 10:04 pm Subject: Immobilizer From: Eric <eric.XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Subject: Immobilizer Message Body: Eric eric.XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Dallas, Texas ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hello, I have an issue with my 2008 mkv vw jetta. I recently swapped the auto 09g trans out for a standard 02q. I've managed to jump the starter switch from the old trans, however I have a slew of error codes and my engine won't rev above 4k RPMs. I've looked around the forums, and it seems that the only way to get around the error codes is to swap out the ECU for a manual ECU, and I couldn't find anything concerning the rev limit. Obviously a different ECU would need to be coded for my immobilizer. In addition, my current ECU is tuned, and I'd rather not lose that if it can be avoided. I'm not sure that this is the kind of thing you'll take on, but I was hoping you would be able to provide service. Eric -- This mail is sent via contact form on europeanpartsemporium.com http://europeanpartsemporium.com
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack@European_Parts View Post
    Yes, however, doesn't a parts guy at any franchise do that for you for free, when you request it and documentation to support it & is required to do it as part of their franchise agreement.
    So it's a scheme to protect the franchised dealers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack@European_Parts View Post
    Just because a part # is superseded doesn't mean it is always better or a revision..........not a good assumption.
    It may just in fact be a different contract supplier to the OEM.
    I agree, it isn't always a better or improved part. But if someone had a failed 1K0-907-379-AD, would you suggest replacing it with another one of the exact same part number?

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    So it's a scheme to protect the franchised dealers?
    How is it a scheme to protect the dealers when they are required to disseminate the correct part supersession for you for free as per their franchise agreement?
    Off course you encrypt your label files to protect your work don't you as best you can?

    I agree, it isn't always a better or improved part. But if someone had a failed 1K0-907-379-AD, would you suggest replacing it with another one of the exact same part number?

    -Uwe-
    Nope..........! Watch me say this in slow motion...........

    I would tell them to crack open the old one with a hot knife and re-solder all the connections correctly + send the bill to VW later for when it is under campaign for reimbursement & via certified mail return receipt with a letter demand for compensation.
    Each that did this were already compensated.........

    The new ones come with the same shitty solder connection.........FYI! being bit by the cobra.......I just solder those too I just don't give a shit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack@European_Parts View Post
    Identifying the original part in a car is absolutely useful because it could be "wrong" and it should always be authenticated to be correct to begin with before checking if something just supersedes.

    What people really need to do is adhere to a strict process such as the JPPSG & when doing upgrades or just swapping shit around.

    I see all too often people trying to install the wrong parts using the methods you site...........FAIL!

    Here is a recent example..........and he used a pirated VCDS cable go figure and one of these hacked EPC etka online things.

    Now this asshole wanted to install 07K-906-055Q and in his scan below he has 07K-906-032BJ

    Just do a Google search why comparing pictures of the controller.........okay your turn Don!
    Jack:not sure how it happened, but somehow the issue has changed from the right of captured owners of VW cars to have easy access the database for spare parts - to the proper process for car repair. As to the latter topic, I have absolutely no qualms whatsoever in conceding to your professional and extensive knowledge!

    But in respect of the former topic, which is a related, but an entirely different issue - I hope that you consider me to be not too presumptuous when I say that we are on a level playing field as far as our opinions are concerned.

    As I said previously, we must agree to disagree - but thank you for the banter!!

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    Jack:not sure how it happened, but somehow the issue has changed from the right of captured owners of VW cars to have easy access the database for spare parts - to the proper process for car repair. As to the latter topic, I have absolutely no qualms whatsoever in conceding to your professional and extensive knowledge!

    But in respect of the former topic, which is a related, but an entirely different issue - I hope that you consider me to be not too presumptuous when I say that we are on a level playing field as far as our opinions are concerned.

    As I said previously, we must agree to disagree - but thank you for the banter!!

    Don

    Yay you finally said something I am aligned with & here is why.........

    The Etka and Elsa/web/win are linked to each other within the repair manual from VAG.

    I see the Etka as a critical part of the repair process & especially when diagnosis is concerned!

    Since it is made available to dealer techs linking the two, we have a right to it being disseminated within the repair manual being fair.

    You will get no argument from me on this, now just find a lawyer to make them do it!
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